ptatc Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 18, 2014 -> 03:03 PM) I dont know why, but I like this move a lot. Hasn't had an OPS+ below 98 since 2010, high walk rate, good BB:K rate. Makes a lot of sense as a back, makes you kind of wonder why they even traded for Brantly as Kottaras seems like a much better backup option. Unless this is an indication that Flowers might be headed elsewhere? I don't know enough about either. How does the defense compare? This is usually the role of a backup catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 They claimed Brantly off waivers. He was essentially free. Also they may not have been all that confident in getting Kottaras signed back when they had to decide whether or not to claim Brantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 18, 2014 -> 01:41 PM) He did hit three bombs against us last year...in one game. That's right.... He's on the team for next year!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 18, 2014 -> 03:08 PM) That's right.... He's on the team for next year!!! Too funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 18, 2014 -> 01:45 PM) I think Nieto was going to the minors regardless with the addition of Brantly in my opinion. yea, I predict Nieto in Birmingham and Smith in Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 So the left handed version of Tyler Flowers huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 18, 2014 -> 05:42 PM) So the left handed version of Tyler Flowers huh? More like if Adam Dunn were a catcher. 14% career walk rate is impressive. .762 OPS in 300 PAs the last 3 years.......but that's on 6 different teams. Why does no one seem to want to keep this guy who is productive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 18, 2014 -> 03:54 PM) More like if Adam Dunn were a catcher. 14% career walk rate is impressive. .762 OPS in 300 PAs the last 3 years.......but that's on 6 different teams. Why does no one seem to want to keep this guy who is productive? Defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I really wish Dunn could have played every position last year so we could have made definitive comparisons "Like if Adam Dunn played second base" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFinn Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 18, 2014 -> 03:59 PM) Defense? Stat Corner has a list of catchers ranked according to their ability to frame pitches. In limited time last year, Kottaras was in the middle of the pack with respect to runs saved: -0.1 for his time in Toronto and -0.3 for his time in St. Louis. When Kottaras was catching for the Brew crew, the principal catcher, Jonathan Lucroy was (and still is) consistently among the leaders in runs saved over the course of the season. During that same time, Kottaras was usually in the bottom of the list. Since Lucroy and Kottaras were catching the same staff, the discrepancy has to be in Kottaras' inability to stay still behind the dish. Since Kottaras is signing a minor league deal, it doesn't cost anything to find out if he is a defensive liability going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 18, 2014 -> 05:59 PM) Defense? Numbers seem to suggest he's been around average for his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Depth move that was greatly needed. I'm not real convinced Smith has what it takes. Seems odd to me that he wasn't at least promoted to Charlotte at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I was hoping for Markakis but will settle for Kottaras. Can't wait for Greek Heritage night. Moustakas can suck it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I like this for depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 19, 2014 -> 08:01 AM) I like this for depth. This is a helluva f***ing move the more I look at it. Sox just got a .5 WAR backup catcher with the upside to be a 2 WAR starter for nothing. Hahn continues to impress. If he sucks are gets hurt screw it, you tried and paid nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Really mods? You're really going to take this caliber of a move off of being posted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 19, 2014 -> 06:22 PM) This is a helluva f***ing move the more I look at it. Sox just got a .5 WAR backup catcher with the upside to be a 2 WAR starter for nothing. Hahn continues to impress. If he sucks are gets hurt screw it, you tried and paid nothing. I 100% agree with this. If Flowers ever gets hurt, Kottaras is more than capable of being a starter. I love this signing. It's a low risk/high reward type of move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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