Frank_Thomas Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:33 AM) my prediction, SD ends up with the worst hauls because people know what stupid shape they are in. Or they end up with a majority of the pieces they have been rumored to be moving because they are asking too much. Should be a pretty interesting deadline. To see what we do of course, but also what LA, the Cubs, and SD do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:35 AM) Or they end up with a majority of the pieces they have been rumored to be moving because they are asking too much. Should be a pretty interesting deadline. To see what we do of course, but also what LA, the Cubs, and SD do. Well, depends with this hilarious "shed payroll" report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 There is some speculation within the industry about a possible BOS/Cubs/Padres three-way blockbuster taking shape. Lots of pieces that fit Onley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:46 AM) There is some speculation within the industry about a possible BOS/Cubs/Padres three-way blockbuster taking shape. Lots of pieces that fit Onley Probably Kimbrel to Boston, Ross to Cubs, prospects to San Diego? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Kimbrel to Boston? Why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:48 AM) Kimbrel to Boston? Why I don't know, but they want him. They've been pursuing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 what a weird team now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 08:13 AM) I do, very much. I acknowledge that there is a chance Avisail Garcia turns into a good player. But I also acknowledge that there is a chance every player in the MLB turns into a good player. It might happen, but it very much probably will not happen. If he could play defense, I'd be more patient with Avi cause I do see potential for offensive upside. I just never see him being a capable defender and thus he'd have to really really hit and the odds of that are pretty minimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:34 AM) I was being dramatic. Lol ok. That's why I thought Leury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Boston can go for it at any moment. Kimbrel gives them their closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 It's getting close though. Waiting for news at any moment. The peavy pads deal went in right before the deadline. It'll be close I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Morisi says Marlon Bryd would also be a good addition. I don't know about that... Def less flashy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:17 PM) If he could play defense, I'd be more patient with Avi cause I do see potential for offensive upside. I just never see him being a capable defender and thus he'd have to really really hit and the odds of that are pretty minimal. He has the physical tools to be an acceptable outfield defender, so I want to say he can improve. But he really seems to lack the instincts out there and if he's this bad now, I don't know why he didn't get better in his long minor league career spent solely in the outfield. I don't think the odds of him hitting well are minimal, but we might be having a vocabulary difference as to what "really hitting" is. If his defense can't improve, might be reasonable to say that he has the upside of 2.0 WAR player, which is nice to have but obviously not something you'll mortgage the franchise to develop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 09:28 AM) He has the physical tools to be an acceptable outfield defender, so I want to say he can improve. But he really seems to lack the instincts out there and if he's this bad now, I don't know why he didn't get better in his long minor league career spent solely in the outfield. I don't think the odds of him hitting well are minimal, but we might be having a vocabulary difference as to what "really hitting" is. If his defense can't improve, might be reasonable to say that he has the upside of 2.0 WAR player, which is nice to have but obviously not something you'll mortgage the franchise to develop If his defense can't improve, he'd have to be a hell of a hitter to be a 2.0 WAR player. His defense is that bad and I don't really see him improving. He gets horrible reads and is just a lousy fielder. And it is magnified more when you have a team built around pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) He'll never be more than a big cocktease. You're right. He sucks. DFA him today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 11:28 AM) He has the physical tools to be an acceptable outfield defender, so I want to say he can improve. But he really seems to lack the instincts out there and if he's this bad now, I don't know why he didn't get better in his long minor league career spent solely in the outfield. I don't think the odds of him hitting well are minimal, but we might be having a vocabulary difference as to what "really hitting" is. If his defense can't improve, might be reasonable to say that he has the upside of 2.0 WAR player, which is nice to have but obviously not something you'll mortgage the franchise to develop He's been getting professional instruction for so many years now. I just can't believe he can improve much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:30 PM) If his defense can't improve, he'd have to be a hell of a hitter to be a 2.0 WAR player. His defense is that bad and I don't really see him improving. He gets horrible reads and is just a lousy fielder. And it is magnified more when you have a team built around pitching. Just for a statistical comparison since I can't calculate hypothetical WAR values in my head, Brandon Moss of last year had a net defensive rating of -11.1 runs below average from his time in the OF, DH, and 1B, which is similar to where Avi projects to be (and he'd have a better defensive rating if he moved to LF in all likelihood). Moss had a 121 wRC+, which I don't think is out of reach for a version of Avisail that is panning out--though he would get to a 121 wRC+ in a different way than Moss, who always carries a low average and high walk rate. Moss had a 2.1 WAR and that's with positional adjustments for 1B and DH included. I don't think it's out of reach, especially when we're talking about a player's upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 If #Padres don't get what they want for Upton,they'll keep him and get draft pick;the #Tigers more urgent on Cespedes since no compensation https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/627156078082404352 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Shockingly, Padres one of just five teams that haven't made a trade with deadline in 3 1/2 hours. Others: Cubs, White Sox, Twins, D'backs. Passan Seems to me these teAms may be waiting on the Padres to see wtf they are going to do. It's like they have the deadline held hostage. Edited July 31, 2015 by Frank_Thomas35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 White Sox's pursuit of impact RH bat (Yoenis Cespedes/Justin Upton) might lead to Jeff Samardzija trade, either in 3-team deal or 2 trades. https://twitter.com/philgrogers/status/627162584370814976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 #WhiteSox listening to "everything," source says. Have not completely ruled out Jeff Samardzija trade -- and open to adding, too. https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/627164066063085568 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 12:12 PM) #WhiteSox listening to "everything," source says. Have not completely ruled out Jeff Samardzija trade -- and open to adding, too. https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/627164066063085568 Tommy Cueto @TJFsports 11m11 minutes ago But currently super into this one indie band you probably haven’t heard of RT @jonmorosi: #WhiteSox listening to “everything,” source says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 Nick Couzin @NCouz 3m3 minutes ago #Cubs #WhiteSox and #Padres discussing a 3 way trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 01:12 PM) Nick Couzin @NCouz 3m3 minutes ago #Cubs #WhiteSox and #Padres discussing a 3 way trade. Um who is that guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoSox2k2 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 01:12 PM) Nick Couzin @NCouz 3m3 minutes ago #Cubs #WhiteSox and #Padres discussing a 3 way trade. who the hell is this guy.. only has 311 followers lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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