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What it appears is Sandy was the choice to become the bench coach and probably the possible replacement. If Robin does get the axe, this decision doesn't preclude Sandy from being named the manager. If it is perceived that the new hire is Robin's potential or automatic replacement, there will be a million stories on it from the time he is hired, through spring training. It probably isn't good for Robin, the coaches, or the players.

 

 

It's not going to help no matter who the bench coach is. That's the point. As long as Robin is on a 1 year deal with his job on the line there are going to be talks.

It's not going to help no matter who the bench coach is. That's the point. As long as Robin is on a 1 year deal with his job on the line there are going to be talks.

It's possible, maybe probable, but Sandy doesn't want to be that guy. If they hire a guy that would be an interim manager, that is one thing, but if 2 weeks after a slow start, Sandy signed a 3 year contract, in his mind, he would look like a snake.

 

It's a real tough hire especially if the hire is a guy who is interviewing for managing jobs. It is one reason I think they might go for a 3rd base coach and let McEwing be the bench coach. Personally, I think this would effect the White Sox more. I haven't been so impressed with McEwing's decisions the last couple of years, although with the lack of offense, he probably had to be more aggressive than normal. I just think at times, it was being stupid not aggressive.

Edited November 2, 201510 yr by Dick Allen

Let's hire another coach with perhaps some volunteer Little League coaching time who won't be construed by anyone as a threat.

 

And then watch him turn down the job when Robin's gone...adding further insult to injury.

 

At any rate, LaRussa has no loyalty to Ventura, but I'm not sure McEwing would even want the job unless he had a real chance to win because you're just going to be sacrificed eventually before Hahn or KW.

 

Might be like AJ Hinch with the DBacks and now Astros, hired to be fired but then the second job is the charm having learned from the first experience. Probably ends up with the AZ job right before LaRussa retires. We can be like an internship/practicum/training.

Edited November 2, 201510 yr by caulfield12

It's possible, maybe probable, but Sandy doesn't want to be that guy. If they hire a guy that would be an interim manager, that is one thing, but if 2 weeks after a slow start, Sandy signed a 3 year contract, in his mind, he would look like a snake.

 

It's a real tough hire especially if the hire is a guy who is interviewing for managing jobs. It is one reason I think they might go for a 3rd base coach and let McEwing be the bench coach. Personally, I think this would effect the White Sox more. I haven't been so impressed with McEwing's decisions the last couple of years, although with the lack of offense, he probably had to be more aggressive than normal. I just think at times, it was being stupid not aggressive.

 

 

Should we have no coaches? They are all threats to Robins job next year. It's not anyone's fault but Robin and the Front Office for the position they are in. Resign him to a 2 year deal,fire him or roll with him on the 1 year deal and the consequences it's already bringing.

Let's hire another coach with perhaps some volunteer Little League coaching time who won't be construed by anyone as a threat.

 

And then watch him turn down the job when Robin's gone...adding further insult to injury.

 

At any rate, LaRussa has no loyalty to Ventura, but I'm not sure McEwing would even want the job unless he had a real chance to win because you're just going to be sacrificed eventually before Hahn or KW.

 

Might be like AJ Hinch with the DBacks and now Astros, hired to be fired but then the second job is the charm having learned from the first experience. Probably ends up with the AZ job right before LaRussa retires. We can be like an internship/practicum/training.

 

What?

Should we have no coaches? They are all threats to Robins job next year. It's not anyone's fault but Robin and the Front Office for the position they are in. Resign him to a 2 year deal,fire him or roll with him on the 1 year deal and the consequences it's already bringing.

They will hire someone.

 

It's a bench coach job. The next post blaming Mark Parent for the White Sox record will be the first. They apparently wanted Sandy, but he didn't want to be perceived as a guy after Robin's job. OK, now the Sox have to move to the next guy on their list. How far it goes, who knows, but I doubt anyone will take a few wins off their White Sox projection based on the next coach they hire. Again, I think a different 3rd base coach may make a bigger difference.

Did anyone else see the last 2 lines of the article?

 

Pluto also reports that Alomar signed a two-year contract extension with the Indians. He can leave to become manager of another team if he gets an offer.

 

I read that as if the Sox decide to fire Robin mid-season, they can still offer Sandy the job.

Edited November 2, 201510 yr by Iwritecode

Did anyone else see the last 2 lines of the article?

 

 

 

If the Sox decide to fire Robin mid-season, they can still offer Sandy the job.

That is what I have been posting.

 

I think if Robin gets the axe, he's the odds on favorite.

Did anyone else see the last 2 lines of the article?

 

 

 

I read that as if the Sox decide to fire Robin mid-season, they can still offer Sandy the job.

But that would mean some sort of interim manager named to finish out the season, and then Alomar named in the offseason, correct? Coaches don't bolt teams mid-season to take over managerial positions on other teams.

But that would mean some sort of interim manager named to finish out the season, and then Alomar named in the offseason, correct? Coaches don't bolt teams mid-season to take over managerial positions on other teams.

They can and they do.

Indians would tell the Sox to go blow.

Indians would tell the Sox to go blow.

They can't if it's in his contract he can move.

well that is true. maybe times have changed that much where a guy like Alomar would have that kind of pull.

well that is true. maybe times have changed that much where a guy like Alomar would have that kind of pull.

Obviously most of the time it will be someone on the current staff. The White Sox did hire Fregosi during the season from the Cardinals AAA team.

Let's hire another coach with perhaps some volunteer Little League coaching time who won't be construed by anyone as a threat.

 

And then watch him turn down the job when Robin's gone...adding further insult to injury.

 

At any rate, LaRussa has no loyalty to Ventura, but I'm not sure McEwing would even want the job unless he had a real chance to win because you're just going to be sacrificed eventually before Hahn or KW.

 

Might be like AJ Hinch with the DBacks and now Astros, hired to be fired but then the second job is the charm having learned from the first experience. Probably ends up with the AZ job right before LaRussa retires. We can be like an internship/practicum/training.

 

I think caulfield is posting "day drunk" today.

They will hire someone.

 

It's a bench coach job. The next post blaming Mark Parent for the White Sox record will be the first. They apparently wanted Sandy, but he didn't want to be perceived as a guy after Robin's job. OK, now the Sox have to move to the next guy on their list. How far it goes, who knows, but I doubt anyone will take a few wins off their White Sox projection based on the next coach they hire. Again, I think a different 3rd base coach may make a bigger difference.

 

I dont think anyone is arguing that. The point I'm making is I think they'll have to go pretty far down the list because of the position they have put themselves in with Robin's status.

I think caulfield is posting "day drunk" today.

 

It's night time in China. The World Series ended at 1 pm local time. Alas, no drinking, since there aren't any intl schools that allow that. Smoking in front of students, yes, but it's a British school.

I dont think anyone is arguing that. The point I'm making is I think they'll have to go pretty far down the list because of the position they have put themselves in with Robin's status.

Agree.

It's ridiculous they way that they handled this.

 

Well, since the Nats aren't hiring Bud Black, I'd go after him after RV gets fired.

One thing that just hit me. If Sandy didn't take the job because of Robin's lame duck status, that probably means they aren't looking to extend him, otherwise they would have told Alomar they were looking at it to get him to come here.

One thing that just hit me. If Sandy didn't take the job because of Robin's lame duck status, that probably means they aren't looking to extend him, otherwise they would have told Alomar they were looking at it to get him to come here.

I think you're right. I've been puzzled at the conclusion some have reached that Robin will be extended, I think his seat is way hotter now than it was after the 99-loss season.

One thing that just hit me. If Sandy didn't take the job because of Robin's lame duck status, that probably means they aren't looking to extend him, otherwise they would have told Alomar they were looking at it to get him to come here.

That's right. Has to be. At this point though we should've done everything to get "our guy", but they have a list so it's next man up.

Obama for bench coach. Two lame ducks.

Well, since the Nats aren't hiring Bud Black, I'd go after him after RV gets fired.

 

That would be nice, but no chance. The Sox list will only consist of people with ties to the organization. And I really think people are overthinking this Alomar stuff. If they really wanted him, they could have just fired Robin and hired him. Another lame duck year of Robin to look forward to so Jerry can continue to be the most loyal guy on the planet.