Right handed starters on FA market that would interest me:

 

Kenta Maeda

Henderson Alvarez

Trevor Cahill

Doug Fister

Edwin Jackson

Mat Latos

Tim Lincecum

Brandon Morrow

 

A lot of those guys I'd only take on minor league deals.

 

A lot of those guys I'd only take on minor league deals.

 

All of them will get major league deals except maybe Alvarez because of his injury.

Also Mike leake

 

I see a Samardzija type season if Leake was in the AL.

If we had not decided to go for it this year and hadn't signed Robertson, LaRoche, and Melky, would we have been big players in this FA market?

If we had not decided to go for it this year and hadn't signed Robertson, LaRoche, and Melky, would we have been big players in this FA market?

 

I think they'd probably go after Heyward since they were interested in him before he was traded to Cardinals and have shown willingness to spend (Tanaka effort).

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I think they'd probably go after Heyward since they were interested in him before he was traded to Cardinals and have shown willingness to spend (Tanaka effort).

I think it's possible that the Sox still go after Heyward anyway.

I think it's possible that the Sox still go after Heyward anyway.

 

Not sure if they are willing to give up the draft pick for him or any other with qualifying offers attached

Really seems like they don't want to go with Erik Johnson.

He's not a Cooper guy. That usually means you hit the road.

I still think we could sign one of those OFers. They tried to sign Shark long term, so why not?

I think it's possible that the Sox still go after Heyward anyway.

The problem with Heyward is that he's not a great hitter. That's a lot of money for excellent defense and solid, but not great, hitting.

The problem with Heyward is that he's not a great hitter. That's a lot of money for excellent defense and solid, but not great, hitting.

 

 

It's not "great" but it's very good.

I feel like Hayward is going to have a career like Adrian Beltre. Some great offensive years, some .700 -.720 ops years, but always elite defense. Unsure if that's worth 200 million.

We'd have to out spend on him though compared to other teams. If it's close between us, Cards and potential other teams coming off good years, we won't even be considered.

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I feel like Hayward is going to have a career like Adrian Beltre. Some great offensive years, some .700 -.720 ops years, but always elite defense. Unsure if that's worth 200 million.

 

I think if we were to get him on an 8/9 year deal with opt-outs after year 4 or 5, his older years won't even matter because he likely won't be our problem.

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I feel like Hayward is going to have a career like Adrian Beltre. Some great offensive years, some .700 -.720 ops years, but always elite defense. Unsure if that's worth 200 million.

Agree and it's not.

What would Upton cost?

I think if we were to get him on an 8/9 year deal with opt-outd after year 4 or 5, his older years won't even matter because he likely won't be our problem.

Ya I agree. He's in a unique position being 26 years old. He'll double dip.

Ya I agree. He's in a unique position being 26 years old. He'll double dip.

 

Yep. He'll sign a big deal now and then opt out around 30/31 and get another 5/6 year deal.

Yup. So really we'd be signing him to like a 5 year deal.

The problem with Heyward is that he's not a great hitter. That's a lot of money for excellent defense and solid, but not great, hitting.

 

A career .784 OPS with elite defense is worth a lot of money. He's consistently been a 3.5+ WAR player, of any free agents in the last couple years, he is definitely one of the most likely to fulfill the value of his contract.

Yup. So really we'd be signing him to like a 5 year deal.

 

Only reason why I'm ok with them signing him. I don't really want either Upton or Cespedes (depending on amount of years) personally. Upton just seems like the kind of guy that would come here and just suck. Injury prone, K's a lot, below average defense. Pass.

 

Although if they signed one of those two I would probably be irrationally excited until we found out either were bad deals.

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Only reason why I'm ok with them signing him. I don't really want either Upton or Cespedes (depending on amount of years) personally. Upton just seems like the kind of guy that would come here and just suck. Injury prone, K's a lot, below average defense. Pass.

 

Although if they signed one of those two I would probably be irrationally excited until we found out either were bad deals.

 

I would prefer Cespedes cause he's played an in AL and doesnt have a pick attached

I would prefer Cespedes cause he's played an in AL and doesnt have a pick attached

Cespedes over Upton for me.

Only reason why I'm ok with them signing him. I don't really want either Upton or Cespedes (depending on amount of years) personally. Upton just seems like the kind of guy that would come here and just suck. Injury prone, K's a lot, below average defense. Pass.

 

Although if they signed one of those two I would probably be irrationally excited until we found out either were bad deals.

I feel the exact same way about Upton. He just seems like Alex Rios part two.

Cespedes just had a career year, I'd rather not pay the price tag that comes along with it. Heyward will definitely be worth his contract, defense in general is still very underrated. Preventing a run is the same as generating one.

I feel like Hayward is going to have a career like Adrian Beltre. Some great offensive years, some .700 -.720 ops years, but always elite defense. Unsure if that's worth 200 million.

Since his career year in 2004 with the Dodgers, Beltre has been worth on average 4.5 WAR per season. If Heyward gets 8 years/200 million, $25 million/year for 4.5 WAR/year would be well more than worth the value of that contract, teams would be ecstatic if Heyward had Beltre's career. And again that's not even including his 2004 season where he had 9.7 WAR.

Edited December 6, 201510 yr by OmarComing25