I wonder how the Reds view Brandon Phillips. If they view him as a salary dump, I would certainly take him in a package with Frazier.

 

Look at it this way..... Phillips and Zobrist are about the same age. Phillips was 1/2 a win better in 2015 than Zobrist. Zobrist is getting paid $14M over the next 4 season. Phillips is getting paid $13.5M over just the next 2 years. Phillips, despite a down year on defense, is still a solidly above average fielder. In his down year on defense, he was still just as good as Carlos Sanchez was on defense. Phillips would be a pretty substantial upgrade over Sanchez when you consider he gives you the same defense, but a 90 wRC+ versus a 60 wRC+.

 

See what it would take to get Frazier and Phillips and it would give this team a pretty reasonable 2 year window to win before their contracts expire.

I would absolutely support an Anderson/Adams/M. Johnson deal

I would absolutely support an Anderson/Adams/M. Johnson deal

 

For Frazier and Phillips or just Frazier?

 

C. Trent Rosecrans ‏@ctrent 4m4 minutes ago

Word I’m hearing is #Reds are shopping Frazier heavily. Makes most sense at this point

I would absolutely support an Anderson/Adams/M. Johnson deal

Maybe if Frazier had 3 years of control, but only 2 I say no way.

For Frazier and Phillips or just Frazier?

 

C. Trent Rosecrans ‏@ctrent 4m4 minutes ago

Word I’m hearing is #Reds are shopping Frazier heavily. Makes most sense at this point

 

Frazier

Frazier

 

Eh, I think that's a pretty steep price. If Cozart was in the deal as well to play SS, I might be fine with that. I don't know, that's a lot.

Davidson, Avi and Webb. Get it done.

For Frazier and Phillips, I would be ok with....

 

Anderson, Danish, Davidson, and Micah.

 

I would hate to lose Micah, because I like him as a person and I LOVE his athleticism and skill, but we wouldn't have a spot for him, his defense is still suspect, and I feel like the Reds would love the idea of Billy Hamilton and Micah Johnson in the same lineup. That's an unbelievably amount of speed.

Eh, I think that's a pretty steep price. If Cozart was in the deal as well to play SS, I might be fine with that. I don't know, that's a lot.

 

Yeah, that's the extent I'd be comfortable, and realize it's an overpay. Sadly, everything seems to be an overpay now.

For Frazier and Phillips, I would be ok with....

 

Anderson, Danish, Davidson, and Micah.

 

I would hate to lose Micah, because I like him as a person and I LOVE his athleticism and skill, but we wouldn't have a spot for him, his defense is still suspect, and I feel like the Reds would love the idea of Billy Hamilton and Micah Johnson in the same lineup. That's an unbelievably amount of speed.

 

Just seems like the organization lost all faith in Johnson.

Davidson, Avi and Webb. Get it done.

The Sox have acquired Glenn frazier. Maybe he can play...but they aren't even answering a phone call with that offer, imo.

Davidson, Avi and Webb. Get it done.

 

Looks like 3 members of the 2019 Newark Bears

Just seems like the organization lost all faith in Johnson.

 

If he can't stay healthy, there isn't much reason to have faith in him.

The Sox have acquired Glenn frazier. Maybe he can play...but they aren't even answering a phone call with that offer, imo.

No kidding lol.

Just seems like the organization lost all faith in Johnson.

 

I agree. Sanchez also showed life with the bat in the 2nd half, plus his defense is elite.

 

I do believe Micah is on the block.

Yeah, that's the extent I'd be comfortable, and realize it's an overpay. Sadly, everything seems to be an overpay now.

I know this has been discussed a bunch in the Shelby Miller thread, but if this is the environment, perhaps the Sox should stop trying to patch together a playoff team next year and get on the right side of all the overpays.

If he can't field, there isn't much reason to have faith in him.

 

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I know this has been discussed a bunch in the Shelby Miller thread, but if this is the environment, perhaps the Sox should stop trying to patch together a playoff team next year and get on the right side of all the overpays.

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I know this has been discussed a bunch in the Shelby Miller thread, but if this is the environment, perhaps the Sox should stop trying to patch together a playoff team next year and get on the right side of all the overpays.

 

I feel this way as well. We have 15 WAR deficit. We don't have the money or the excess talent to cover it and keep our core.

 

Brett Lawrie is nice, but it's a place where we covered a talent deficit with a marginal upgrade. We need shots at elite upgrades.

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Like seriously. It's not too late. All we've done is sign two cheap catchers to one year deals and traded I-don't-even-remember-who for Tommy Kahnle. It's not too late to pivot.

 

KENNY.

The problem is the White Sox don't want to give up their best prospects so Frazier won't be a White Sox. At some point, assuming he just doesn't fall apart, some team will give Cincinatti Tim Anderson's equal or better. The White Sox really aren't in a position to do that.

The problem is the White Sox don't want to give up their best prospects so Frazier won't be a White Sox. At some point, assuming he just doesn't fall apart, some team will give Cincinatti Tim Anderson's equal or better. The White Sox really aren't in a position to do that.

 

I like Anderson as a prospect more than most, but he's not a "can't miss" type guy. If he has that much value right now, I don't mind cashing him in.

I like Anderson as a prospect more than most, but he's not a "can't miss" type guy. If he has that much value right now, I don't mind cashing him in.

He's not can't miss, but he is getting closer, and he plays a position of need. If Saladino showed he would be a decent hitter, I could see trading him, but no matter what, if they do trade him and he turns out to be a good player, KW is going to be called a lot of names.

 

The White Sox need to add young talent, not subtract it. Frazier is probably a 2 year thing. Then what?

He's not can't miss, but he is getting closer, and he plays a position of need. If Saladino showed he would be a decent hitter, I could see trading him, but no matter what, if they do trade him and he turns out to be a good player, KW is going to be called a lot of names.

 

The White Sox need to add young talent, not subtract it. Frazier is probably a 2 year thing. Then what?

 

Then in 2 years we make a trade with Arizona and replenish our team.

Then in 2 years we make a trade with Arizona and replenish our team.

All their prospects will be gone.

 

GMs are lining up outside Dave Stewart's suite.