January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:34 PM) Take a look at his previous three seasons. Unlike you, I don't view things in a vacuum to fit my narrative. He's all over the place. Believe me, if the Sox signed Cespedes to what Washington is supposedly offering, he would tell you how wrong it is.
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:32 PM) True. It's not like the Sox targeted improving at 3B or Catcher or anything. The only move that matters is an OF improvement. But the problem here is we were passed by Detroit, and still have to catch KC and Cleve...and just might be even with the Twins, who happen to have one of the better farm systems in the game again under Ryan.
January 21, 201610 yr Slit my throat for me Bob NightengaleVerified account @BNightengale The biggest surprise now is if #Nats don't sign Cespedes. They appear to be the only team interested in giving him longer than 3-year deal. Edited January 21, 201610 yr by Jose Paniagua
January 21, 201610 yr The biggest surprise now is if #Nats don't sign Cespedes. They appear to be the only team interested in giving him longer than 3-year deal. https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/690256731805474816 Rubbing it in the sox face
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) But the problem here is we were passed by Detroit, and still have to catch KC and Cleve...and just might be even with the Twins, who happen to have one of the better farm systems in the game again under Ryan. Well of course Sox are going to be awful if nearly everyone on the team underachieves again like 2015.
January 21, 201610 yr They played the market wrong and got caught. They'll pay for it at the deadline is they are even close enough to a playoff spot.
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) Slit my throat for me Bob NightengaleVerified account @BNightengale The biggest surprise now is if #Nats don't sign Cespedes. They appear to be the only team interested in giving him longer than 3-year deal. How is this not a massive red flag to everyone?
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:37 PM) Slit my throat for me Bob NightengaleVerified account @BNightengale The biggest surprise now is if #Nats don't sign Cespedes. They appear to be the only team interested in giving him longer than 3-year deal. I wonder if other teams' fanbases are just as outraged.
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (Kevtrem @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:31 PM) RIP our fanbase I'm OK! I'm just going to wait until 2018. Isn't that the year of a good FA group?
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:39 PM) They played the market wrong and got caught. They'll pay for it at the deadline is they are even close enough to a playoff spot. How so, it's not like they couldn't have changed their mind on the 3 year length if they wanted to. Quite frankly, I don't think they trusted any of these 3 outfielders on a lengthy deal.
January 21, 201610 yr The only thing you can think is there is massive behind-the-scenes badness with Cespedes. The whispers of that with Puig are all over the place, but not Cespedes. Slight primadonna behavior but whatever, that's about it
January 21, 201610 yr If I'm a Nats fan, this likely erases any chance at all that they resign Harper. Whatever chance there was before anyway.
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:40 PM) How so, it's not like they couldn't have changed their mind on the 3 year length if they wanted to. Quite frankly, I don't think they trusted any of these 3 outfielders on a lengthy deal. I think they could have. They don't need to trust them. They just won't win as many games.
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:37 PM) What does Danks have to do with anything? At the time he signed that extension he was every bit as valuable as Cespedes and was worth every penny. It's not his or the Sox fault that his career got derailed by a major injury. I'm sorry I offended you.
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:40 PM) The only thing you can think is there is massive behind-the-scenes badness with Cespedes. The whispers of that with Puig are all over the place, but not Cespedes. Slight primadonna behavior but whatever, that's about it I would say it's more than slight. More stories have come out about him being a diva than just about anyone I can recall when they were a free agent.
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:34 PM) Take a look at his previous three seasons. Unlike you, I don't view things in a vacuum to fit my narrative. There's no vacuum. This is the going rate for free agents. Why is it shocking? Didn't we experience it firsthand last offseason? Look at those ridiculous pitching contracts. You don't develop your own players and have a borderline third quartile payroll and bottom quartile farm system, it's not the best situation to extricate yourself from...where most spending and trading becomes counterproductive but standing pat like a shark that stops swimming and floats to the bottom.
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:37 PM) What does Danks have to do with anything? At the time he signed that extension he was every bit as valuable as Cespedes and was worth every penny. It's not his or the Sox fault that his career got derailed by a major injury. I believe Sox knew Danks was getting surgery before they offered that deal. I've always thought it was a terrible deal, one of KW's worst.
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:39 PM) How is this not a massive red flag to everyone? I agree.
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (staxx @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 03:40 PM) If I'm a Nats fan, this likely erases any chance at all that they resign Harper. Whatever chance there was before anyway. Harper is destined for the NYY, imo
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:37 PM) What does Danks have to do with anything? #WhatAboutDanks
January 21, 201610 yr Cespedes to me is like a 5 star recruit your college team is going after, and everyone knows he'll be high-maintenance to keep happy when he's at your school.
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:37 PM) Slit my throat for me Bob NightengaleVerified account @BNightengale The biggest surprise now is if #Nats don't sign Cespedes. They appear to be the only team interested in giving him longer than 3-year deal. Please, I don't want to hear "three year deal" ever mentioned again!
January 21, 201610 yr QUOTE (Tony @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:40 PM) It should be, but fans want the numbers, and don't care about the rest. Until it's May, things aren't going well, and everyone is freaking out about 4 more years of Cespedes. Exactly when in this current plan can fans reasonably expect to compete for the playoffs again?
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