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More on the alt right, Breitbart, and Trump's latest campaign manager Steve Bannon

How Donald Trump's New Campaign Chief Created an Online Haven for White Nationalists

 

Last week, when Donald Trump tapped the chairman of Breitbart Media to lead his campaign, he wasn't simply turning to a trusted ally and veteran propagandist. By bringing on Stephen Bannon, Trump was signaling a wholehearted embrace of the "alt-right," a once-motley assemblage of anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, ethno-nationalistic provocateurs who have coalesced behind Trump and curried the GOP nominee's favor on social media. In short, Trump has embraced the core readership of Breitbart News.

 

"We're the platform for the alt-right," Bannon told me proudly when I interviewed him at the Republican National Convention (RNC) in July. Though disavowed by every other major conservative news outlet, the alt-right has been Bannon's target audience ever since he took over Breitbart News from its late founder, Andrew Breitbart, four years ago. Under Bannon's leadership, the site has plunged into the fever swamps of conservatism, cheering white nationalist groups as an "eclectic mix of renegades," accusing President Barack Obama of importing "more hating Muslims," and waging an incessant war against the purveyors of "political correctness."

 

"Andrew Breitbart despised racism. Truly despised it," writes a former Breitbart News editor. "With Bannon embracing Trump, all that changed."

 

"Andrew Breitbart despised racism. Truly despised it," former Breitbart editor-at-large Ben Shapiro wrote last week in Daily Wire, a conservative website. "With Bannon embracing Trump, all that changed. Now Breitbart has become the alt-right go-to website, with [technology editor Milo] Yiannopoulos pushing white ethno-nationalism as a legitimate response to political correctness, and the comment section turning into a cesspool for white supremacist mememakers."

 

Trump's new campaign chief denies that the alt-right is inherently racist. He describes its ideology as "nationalist," though not necessarily white nationalist. Likening its approach to that of European nationalist parties such as France's National Front, he says: "If you look at the identity movements over there in Europe, I think a lot of [them] are really 'Polish identity' or 'German identity,' not racial identity. It's more identity toward a nation-state or their people as a nation." (Never mind that National Front founder Jean Marie Le Pen has been fined in France for "inciting racial hatred.")

 

Bannon dismisses the alt-right's appeal to racists as happenstance. "Look, are there some people that are white nationalists that are attracted to some of the philosophies of the alt-right? Maybe," he says. "Are there some people that are anti-Semitic that are attracted? Maybe. Right? Maybe some people are attracted to the alt-right that are homophobes, right? But that's just like, there are certain elements of the progressive left and the hard left that attract certain elements."

 

relatedly, the AP went looking through Trump campaign staffers' social media accounts, and you'll never guess what they found! (it's racism)

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If the only objection to illegal immigrants is a wall needs to be built maybe the gang of 8 bill can get passed after all.

"Andrew Breitbart despised racism. Truly despised it," former Breitbart editor-at-large Ben Shapiro.

 

Yeah, ok.

I don't think anyone said releasing private medical records and doxxing rape victims is a-okay?

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Aug 23, 2016 -> 09:51 AM)
"Andrew Breitbart despised racism. Truly despised it," former Breitbart editor-at-large Ben Shapiro.

 

Yeah, ok.

 

That made me chuckle. I'm sure Shirley Sherrod would disagree.

I'm not sure which leak this specific comment references, but innocent people probably get murdered over this leak.

Homosexuality is punishable by death in Saudi Arabia.

This leak outed people.

 

Not really sure how this is a government conspiracy.

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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 23, 2016 -> 01:25 PM)
I'm not sure which leak this specific comment references, but innocent people probably get murdered over this leak.

 

Yeah, no one really cared about that when it came to Iraq.

why do you think it's okay to release the medical records of adolescent rape victims? What good does it do anyone for Wikileaks to be so sloppy and careless in their work?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 23, 2016 -> 01:25 PM)
I'm not sure which leak this specific comment references, but innocent people probably get murdered over this leak.

 

He's trying to claim hypocrisy because we weren't impressed that tv personality dr. drew claims clinton is unfit for presidency due to health even though the letter we have from her actual physician (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/doctors-note-hillary-clinton-is-in-excellent-physical-condition/) says she is fine, fake documents that said she was sick were fake and stupid, and donald trump and alt-right trolls are apparently doctors and able to tell from cut up videos that she has dementia -> ergo we are hypocrites for downplaying clinton's health concerns therefore health doesn't matter therefore it's fine for wikileaks to continue to dump citizens private data

 

But the good news is that there are also reports that the fake physician that fake leaked the fake reports is now fake dead,and it was probably what jade helm was for.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 23, 2016 -> 01:37 PM)
He's trying to claim hypocrisy because we weren't impressed that tv personality dr. drew claims clinton is unfit for presidency due to health even though the letter we have from her actual physician (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/doctors-note-hillary-clinton-is-in-excellent-physical-condition/) says she is fine, fake documents that said she was sick were fake and stupid, and donald trump and alt-right trolls are apparently doctors and able to tell from cut up videos that she has dementia -> ergo we are hypocrites for downplaying clinton's health concerns therefore health doesn't matter therefore it's fine for wikileaks to continue to dump citizens private data

 

But the good news is that there are also reports that the fake physician that fake leaked the fake reports is now fake dead,and it was probably what jade helm was for.

 

Oh, yeah, medical records getting leaked isn't ever OK.

 

 

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 23, 2016 -> 02:03 PM)
Oh, yeah, medical records getting leaked isn't ever OK.

 

Private citizens never. Others I can make a case.

Trump's campaign is one giant grift

 

Donald Trump Jacked Up His Campaign’s Trump Tower Rent Once Somebody Else Was Paying It

Office rent soared in July after Trump’s campaign began accepting donor contributions.

 

Trump nearly quintupled the monthly rent his presidential campaign pays for its headquarters at Trump Tower to $169,758 in July, when he was raising funds from donors, compared with March, when he was self-funding his campaign, according to a Huffington Post review of Federal Election Commission filings. The rent jumped even though he was paying fewer staff in July than he did in March.

 

The Trump campaign paid Trump Tower Commercial LLC $35,458 in March ― the same amount it had been paying since last summer ― and had 197 paid employees and consultants. In July, it paid 172 employees and consultants.

 

 

Trump Wants to ‘Monetize’ His New ‘Audience’

 

Trump, this person close to the matter suggests, has become irked by his ability to create revenue for other media organizations without being able to take a cut himself. Such a situation “brings him to the conclusion that he has the business acumen and the ratings for his own network.” Trump has “gotten the bug,” according to this person. “So now he wants to figure out if he can monetize it.”

 

Hope Hicks, Trump’s spokeswoman, adamantly denied that such conversations have occurred. (“There is absolutely no truth to this whatsoever,” she told me. “This hasn’t been even uttered. Not even thought about.”) Then, after conferring with Trump, she issued a subsequent statement clarifying her point: “While it’s true Mr. Trump garners exceptionally high ratings, there are absolutely no plans or discussions taking place regarding a venture of this nature.” Meanwhile, someone close to Kushner has suggested that Trump would be unlikely to go so far as to seek out a partner at this stage of the race, given that it might risk alienating many of the established media players that he has outflanked—and that he is relying on to get him elected. (Such a move would also inevitably raise issues regarding the F.C.C.’s “equal-time” rule.) Nevertheless, shortly after my correspondence with Hicks, he tweeted out: “The press is so totally biased that we have no choice but to take our tough but fair and smart message directly to the people!”

The AP tried really hard to find a scandal in the Clinton Foundation documents but there's really just nothing there. Yeah, a lot of noise from the extremely loud anti-Clinton chorus, but there's no actual evidence of anything they are implying. The worst thing anyone found was that she met with some donors (not a scandal. this is routine politician stuff). Some got access for various reasons, some were turned down.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Aug 25, 2016 -> 07:07 AM)
The AP tried really hard to find a scandal in the Clinton Foundation documents but there's really just nothing there. Yeah, a lot of noise from the extremely loud anti-Clinton chorus, but there's no actual evidence of anything they are implying. The worst thing anyone found was that she met with some donors (not a scandal. this is routine politician stuff). Some got access for various reasons, some were turned down.

 

Matt Yglesias had a pretty good breakdown of the non-scandal and misleading reporting over at Vox

 

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/24/12618446/ap-c...ndation-meeting

 

That report was bad, especially their examples.

 

But, going back a couple pages to the gawker article "woodward and bernstein were no woodward and bernstein", I do wonder whether journalisms preoccupation with process in reporting leads to these trumped up nothings. They tie two hands behind their back and then say 'well we put a lot of resources in this so we are just ognna throw it out there as negative anyway"

 

Edit: who is capable of doing this reporting anymore. The groundbreaking reports of MJ on federal prisons and pro publica in many are a different kind of beast. No one is capable of going up against the powerful when they are just using litigation.

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I think Trump watched a couple of 90s hood movies, reruns of Good Times, and binge watched the Wire and decided he's ready to start talking to black people.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Aug 25, 2016 -> 09:45 AM)
I think Trump watched a couple of 90s hood movies, reruns of Good Times, and binge watched the Wire and decided he's ready to start talking to black people.

 

I can't wait until he drops the mic at a debate and screams "DYN-O-MITE!"

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Aug 25, 2016 -> 08:07 AM)
The AP tried really hard to find a scandal in the Clinton Foundation documents but there's really just nothing there. Yeah, a lot of noise from the extremely loud anti-Clinton chorus, but there's no actual evidence of anything they are implying. The worst thing anyone found was that she met with some donors (not a scandal. this is routine politician stuff). Some got access for various reasons, some were turned down.

Trump is a donor to the Clinton Foundation. Considering his donation history or lack of, I wonder if he was pay to play.

He paid to get them to show up at his wedding, and later her got snubbed for Chelsea's wedding and was really upset by it.

 

Basically it was like reading confederacy of dunces and thinking "holy s*** ignatius is right"

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