caulfield12 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/todd-f...-fans-teammates Depending on what your feelings are about the way the Sox run things, there's a quote "it's so laid-back and a comfortable atmosphere..." Not sure exactly how well that atmosphere has helped in the past decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 11:25 PM) http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/todd-f...-fans-teammates Depending on what your feelings are about the way the Sox run things, there's a quote "it's so laid-back and a comfortable atmosphere..." Not sure exactly how well that atmosphere has helped in the past decade. Exactly how many games has he been in the clubhouse for? Something tells me the attitude of the fans and players is a little different than the clubhouse. You are really misrepresenting the discussion or are making drastic assumptions about the clubhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 “(I’m) just seeing what these guys are all about, just talking, having a couple root beers and away we went,” Frazier said. “I talked to Alex Avila a little bit, I know Dioner Navarro a lot and Chris Sale, all really, really good guys and can’t wait to get in that clubhouse and see who the jokesters are and who’s ready to play.” That part of the quote really sticks out for me. IMHO, that's something a clubhouse leader would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 11:37 PM) Exactly how many games has he been in the clubhouse for? Something tells me the attitude of the fans and players is a little different than the clubhouse. You are really misrepresenting the discussion or are making drastic assumptions about the clubhouse. If he's just referring to the atmosphere of SoxFest or meeting some of his new teammates for the first time, sure. What is the perception around the league the White Sox clubhouse in your idea...? We've seen a number of stories in the last week or two about lack of leadership, without quotes or pointing fingers at any specific players still with the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Lack of leadership =\= laid back. Keep pushing your dumbass narrative though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 11:58 PM) If he's just referring to the atmosphere of SoxFest or meeting some of his new teammates for the first time, sure. What is the perception around the league the White Sox clubhouse in your idea...? We've seen a number of stories in the last week or two about lack of leadership, without quotes or pointing fingers at any specific players still with the team. WTF else would he be referring? Besides he mentioned Avila and Navarro and Sale. Avila and Navarro have never been in a White Sox clubhouse either. Do you have a problem with Sale? This routine of yours is so f***ing old and tired. We get it, the Royals are great, anything the White Sox do is bad, and any quote from anyone should be spun to explain why the White Sox suck. If Frazier said the atmosphere was intense, and not laid back. You would have said that was the problem. Why don't you just tell us what Frazier should have said that shouldn't make anyone pause, Edited January 31, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 06:10 AM) WTF else would he be referring? Besides he mentioned Avila and Navarro and Sale. Avila and Navarro have never been in a White Sox clubhouse either. Do you have a problem with Sale? This routine of yours is so f***ing old and tired. We get it, the Royals are great, anything the White Sox do is bad, and any quote from anyone should be spun to explain why the White Sox suck. If Frazier said the atmosphere was intense, and not laid back. You would have said that was the problem. Why don't you just tell us what Frazier should have said that shouldn't make anyone pause, Does it really help your case to curse? You always complain about being attacked personally but what do you do to others? I haven't mentioned the Royals for a long time, you keep interjecting them deliberately to get a reaction. The only thing I know is that it would be nice if we came into Opening Day prepared to compete and not still in spring training mode. 8-11 5.5 games back 14-15 3 games back 10-15 5 games back 11-11 1 game back 10-18 9 games back 9-14 6 games back 11-10 tied 14-13 up 1 game 12-11 2.5 games back Is there any team in baseball over the last 9 years that has never been more than 1 game over .500 coming out of April? You can curse all you want, but there are numerous posters here who question the leadership and atmosphere around this team. At least I've tried to present numerous solutions in recent days. It's your prerogative to attack all of them if it gives you an exceeding amount of pleasure, but I haven't seen any of your suggestions or solutions other than it would be fine if we sign Cespedes, Upton, Gordon and Fowler. To tell the truth, I was going to leave the board this weekend (until Ventura was fired) but I saw you making more comments once again accusing me of being a Royals' fan, and that I cannot abide. If that was actually the case, you would be able to find me easily on one of their boards. I'm the only one who consistently writes with an ellipsis (....) in most of my paragraphs. Nobody is capable of influencing me to change the team I root for, and there's also no point in following your favorite team and being self-restricted in your fandom because of some random person on the internet. Have at it. Edited January 31, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 06:58 AM) Does it really help your case to curse? You always complain about being attacked personally but what do you do to others? I haven't mentioned the Royals for a long time, you keep interjecting them deliberately to get a reaction. The only thing I know is that it would be nice if we came into Opening Day prepared to compete and not still in spring training mode. 8-11 5.5 games back 14-15 3 games back 10-15 5 games back 11-11 1 game back 10-18 9 games back 9-14 6 games back 11-10 tied 14-13 up 1 game 12-11 2.5 games back Is there any team in baseball over the last 9 years that has never been more than 1 game over .500 coming out of April? You can curse all you want, but there are numerous posters here who question the leadership and atmosphere around this team. At least I've tried to present numerous solutions in recent days. It's your prerogative to attack all of them if it gives you an exceeding amount of pleasure, but I haven't seen any of your suggestions or solutions other than it would be fine if we sign Cespedes, Upton, Gordon and Fowler. To tell the truth, I was going to leave the board this weekend (until Ventura was fired) but I saw you making more comments once again accusing me of being a Royals' fan, and that I cannot abide. If that was actually the case, you would be able to find me easily on one of their boards. I'm the only one who consistently writes with an ellipsis (....) in most of my paragraphs. Nobody is capable of to influencing me to change the team I root for, and there's also no point in following your favorite team and being self-restricted in your fandom because of some random person on the internet. Have at it. You make a Todd Frazier quote thread of your very own, and what does this post have to do with Todd Frazier? Seriously you are lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 06:58 AM) Does it really help your case to curse? You always complain about being attacked personally but what do you do to others? I haven't mentioned the Royals for a long time, you keep interjecting them deliberately to get a reaction. The only thing I know is that it would be nice if we came into Opening Day prepared to compete and not still in spring training mode. 8-11 5.5 games back 14-15 3 games back 10-15 5 games back 11-11 1 game back 10-18 9 games back 9-14 6 games back 11-10 tied 14-13 up 1 game 12-11 2.5 games back Is there any team in baseball over the last 9 years that has never been more than 1 game over .500 coming out of April? You can curse all you want, but there are numerous posters here who question the leadership and atmosphere around this team. At least I've tried to present numerous solutions in recent days. It's your prerogative to attack all of them if it gives you an exceeding amount of pleasure, but I haven't seen any of your suggestions or solutions other than it would be fine if we sign Cespedes, Upton, Gordon and Fowler. To tell the truth, I was going to leave the board this weekend (until Ventura was fired) but I saw you making more comments once again accusing me of being a Royals' fan, and that I cannot abide. If that was actually the case, you would be able to find me easily on one of their boards. I'm the only one who consistently writes with an ellipsis (....) in most of my paragraphs. Nobody is capable of to influencing me to change the team I root for, and there's also no point in following your favorite team and being self-restricted in your fandom because of some random person on the internet. Have at it. You make a Todd Frazier quote thread of your very own, and what does this post have to do with Todd Frazier? Seriously you are lost. And the "threat" of you leaving the site only I blew it for everyone? LMAO, that was the 3rd time you said you were gone only to return sooner each time. For some reason, you like to spend the majority of your day posting doom and gloom on White Sox message boards. You must be bored out of your skull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 07:00 AM) You make a Todd Frazier quote thread of your very own, and what does this post have to do with Todd Frazier? Seriously you are lost. The ignore feature is there for a reason. If someone curses at me, I will respond in turn. In all the years on this board, I have never cursed at another poster nor a member of the White Sox. The mods can just delete this thread anyway, nobody really cares about your personal war with me. My posts about developing a hitter, about Desmond and Jackson, about Kiki Hernandez....100% doom and gloom. I know one thing, since 1979, I've never gone out of my way to judge other White Sox fans and tell them how to act and behave. Edited January 31, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 07:04 AM) The ignore feature is there for a reason. If someone curses at me, I will respond in turn. In all the years on this board, I have never cursed at another poster nor a member of the White Sox. The mods can just delete this thread anyway, nobody really cares about your personal war with me. My posts about developing a hitter, about Desmond and Jackson, about Kiki Hernandez....100% doom and gloom. I know one thing, since 1979, I've never gone out of my way to judge other White Sox fans and tell them how to act and behave. iPoor Caulfield Besides, if you left the board only to return because of my comments, that's amazing since the comments were posted hours after you had left and weren't coming back until Robin was fired, which according to you was going to be pretty soon. Edited January 31, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
three up three down Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 07:58 AM) Does it really help your case to curse? You always complain about being attacked personally but what do you do to others? I haven't mentioned the Royals for a long time, you keep interjecting them deliberately to get a reaction. The only thing I know is that it would be nice if we came into Opening Day prepared to compete and not still in spring training mode. 8-11 5.5 games back 14-15 3 games back 10-15 5 games back 11-11 1 game back 10-18 9 games back 9-14 6 games back 11-10 tied 14-13 up 1 game 12-11 2.5 games back Is there any team in baseball over the last 9 years that has never been more than 1 game over .500 coming out of April? You can curse all you want, but there are numerous posters here who question the leadership and atmosphere around this team. At least I've tried to present numerous solutions in recent days. It's your prerogative to attack all of them if it gives you an exceeding amount of pleasure, but I haven't seen any of your suggestions or solutions other than it would be fine if we sign Cespedes, Upton, Gordon and Fowler. To tell the truth, I was going to leave the board this weekend (until Ventura was fired) but I saw you making more comments once again accusing me of being a Royals' fan, and that I cannot abide. If that was actually the case, you would be able to find me easily on one of their boards. I'm the only one who consistently writes with an ellipsis (....) in most of my paragraphs. Nobody is capable of influencing me to change the team I root for, and there's also no point in following your favorite team and being self-restricted in your fandom because of some random person on the internet. Have at it. You may be the only person on the planet that cares about Spring Training wins and losses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 06:54 AM) That part of the quote really sticks out for me. IMHO, that's something a clubhouse leader would say. damn, what you highlighted..... that tells me he is a player who is coming to play. nice catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 11:11 PM) Lack of leadership =\= laid back. Keep pushing your dumbass narrative though. It isn't a "dumbass narrative." Have you watched White Sox baseball for the last several years? Do you get the impression that when things get tough, our club is able to stand up to that or turn things around when they start going sideways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 04:29 PM) It isn't a "dumbass narrative." Have you watched White Sox baseball for the last several years? Do you get the impression that when things get tough, our club is able to stand up to that or turn things around when they start going sideways? this is a great post. this idea of piling up on a poster is really getting old, the quality of this board comes from posters with a difference of opinion .... many posters have a right to have their opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 07:39 AM) this is a great post. this idea of piling up on a poster is really getting old, the quality of this board comes from posters with a difference of opinion Couldn't agree more. Edited January 31, 2016 by iamshack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 06:10 AM) WTF else would he be referring? Besides he mentioned Avila and Navarro and Sale. Avila and Navarro have never been in a White Sox clubhouse either. Do you have a problem with Sale? This routine of yours is so f***ing old and tired. We get it, the Royals are great, anything the White Sox do is bad, and any quote from anyone should be spun to explain why the White Sox suck. If Frazier said the atmosphere was intense, and not laid back. You would have said that was the problem. Why don't you just tell us what Frazier should have said that shouldn't make anyone pause, Stop the personal attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Maybe it's just me but Frazier's demeanor reminds me alot of PK. Laid back, calm, cool and yet not afraid to speak his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 05:49 PM) Maybe it's just me but Frazier's demeanor reminds me alot of PK. Laid back, calm, cool and yet not afraid to speak his mind. yeah you mention a name i wasn't thinking about, but i can agree. the one player i was thinking about was maybe a earlier player, they referred to him as a kickback to the old ST Cards team on the dirt kids, never washing the uniforms and sox falling down to the ankles .... but he would put 110% into the game. oh well, PK is a good example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) yeah you mention a name i wasn't thinking about, but i can agree. the one player i was thinking about was maybe a earlier player, they referred to him as a kickback to the old ST Cards team on the dirt kids, never washing the uniforms and sox falling down to the ankles .... but he would put 110% into the game. oh well, PK is a good example. Probably Eckstein or McEwing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 31, 2016 -> 08:56 PM) Probably Eckstein or McEwing. 2 good names but nah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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