SonofaRoache

I wouldn't say Dye fell of a cliff. His last year so a drop, but it wasn't crazy. The difference between Konerko, Dye, and EE, is that if Cruz falls off a cliff you just call up your stud rookie DH and give him a shot. The team would also have enough talent this time around to get around it.

But this will happen anyway. If Vaughn is up and is a stud, we would still lose his bat, or Abreu's bat.

I understand the argument here. My point is that we shouldn't use EE's decline as a barometer because Cruz has outplayed him the last 5 years. Cruz may fall off of a cliff, but it is worth it for us to sign him. We have money, Vaughn can replace him if bad, and there are no signs of him having an OPS lower than. 850. The potential reward far outweighs the risk.

The Twins know where they stand. They probably have a max price for Cruz and will work around that. They may trade for another starter if they can't bring in Tanaka, and they will probably sign Rosenthal or Colome.

If you put EE's and Cruz's seasons from 2016-2020 together and rank them, making ten seasons, the top 5 seasons likely go to Cruz.

If what Beef says is true, then we need to sign Cruz ASAP before he gets a market. He is the last player left in our thrift shopping range that can have a huge impact on us winning a title this year. Let's not just let things fall in our lap.

If his market is low, without a doubt we are low balling.

I believe Hector is correct that we offered Cruz. We may have offered a really good 1 year deal. I just think our deal will be passed by more needy teams with more financial flexibility.

This continues to hurt us fans.

This would be the best case scenario. The Yankees are staking their flag as top dog in the AL. We need to make some big boy moves and man up.

The Sox should just call him up June 1st. Nice easy date and sounds very justifiable as well. Still need to not look completely like a time manipulation and innings limit, even if it is.

Very good write up. Adding Cruz and Q would have made a huge difference in this comparison. The Yankees can mash and pitch, but fate is on our side as they more often than not choke in post season lately.

Well I think that is the hope at this point. We just have to finish this thing off for this next season. We are really close to being able to win it all.

Because TLR only wants him because this is the price range he has to play with. I'm sure TLR would actually prefer Bauer if he had a choice.

Lopez will not start a game unless there are injuries or he has a major turn in ST.

Yep, I'm sure TLR would prefer Paxton, Tanaka, Q,Richards, etc. The money just wasn't there.

DM came from Hahn lol. I hope Wain can put up decent numbers til Kopech is ready.

I just hoped we'd spend a little extra to save prospects and upgrade the rotation. My guess is Gio, Lynn, DK, Burnes type of trade, Kopech. I'm not sure Cease will get it done this year.

Busted

Cruz would only be here for one year and if he sucks we have Vaughn to call up. It's not that big of a risk if that money isn't being used on a quality pitcher SP anyway.

Nelson Cruz is worth it, let's be real there. At least he is truly one of the best hitters in baseball. Wainwright has been blah for years now.

All the players Twins fans want are being signed. That is good news.

Except Cruz is actually MVP worthy.

This is what we were talking about earlier today. The Sox would love Cruz on a one and one.