SonofaRoache

I would like to add this caveat. We drafted Vaughn with the 3rd pick in the draft after a tank year. Being average isn't good enough, which is why this team sucks. We invested a lot in these guys and we have Robert and a bunch of mid-bad position player wise.

He's no longer most talented or athletic in his own mind now. So he switched to most misunderstood.

There is a better chance that we get swept by Oakland.

The talent is not there, as 3 Yeats of data shows. We are the 5th worst team at best, comparing us to the Dodgers is laughable.

Because they are talented and AV is JAG? I'd give Vaughn one more year at the most after '23.

Remember when AV was a star bat? I don't either, but people here sure as hell made him out to be one. For all of our rebuild pain, we were rewarded with Madrigal-Kimbrel-Pollock and Vaughn. Let that sink in.

Neither. He is saying if you don't like how he does his job, then too bad. His highest boss isn't complaining to him, so leave him be. That is what Grifail is saying.

Happy Father's Day gentlemen. Enjoy the game although few will be watching.

Let's not forget Hahn drafted Madrigal and Vaughn with top 4 picks after tanking seasons. We are cursed folks.

We have 3 years of data now. These dudes ain't it. A bunch if talent but can't stay healthy or perform when healthy. This team has zero shot at a WS. You can't even squint your eyes and see it. Fire Hahn.

I mean young established talent. Yoan was a prospect that hadn't developed when we brought him in. We signed him early trying to get a steal of a deal, but he hasn't reached his offensive potential or come close yet.

Our main problem is we won't sign young talent to large deals. Those guys can carry an average team all the way. We want to keep signing aging vets and hoping they can turn back the clock. That plan will continue to fail. And we will continue to be left behind by the big boys.

Well today went to s%*# pretty quickly.

Last 7 innings, 8.5 ERA.

Tigers will get extremely healthy in a few weeks.

I'm starting to feel guilty about playing in this division. Our division sucks so much ass. We need everything to fall our way collectively to win against solid teams.

Sun spotted wherever that is. PLAY BALL!

You went to work. So play ball.

Yes. Flukey weather and injuries favor us (the bad team), against a contender. We are at the try to steal wins from good teams portion of the schedule.

You are describing a bad baseball team.

Part of being a good hitter is pitch recognition. Our guys flail because they don't pick up the pitch in time. Hanging sliders get popped up because they guess fastball and react late. Fastballs get hit into the dirt because they don't pick up the speed in time and swing late.

This was stupid if true. You ALWAYS sign the MVP and HOF caliber middle of the order lefty bat in his prime. You figure out the rest 8 years down the road and if one of your core players bust, his money funds Harper's last few years. If everyone turned out to be worthy of the money, then you enjoy your multiple championships and use the money from said championships and fame to pay Harper, or trade someone to retool the farm.

I didn't want to mention that because it hurts. I remember fans talked about adding relevancy to national attention to the team with Harper especially. Harper basically would have offset a lot of his contract for Jerry.

A few problems. The fans wanted Machado or Harper. An MVP caliber player that can carry an offense and take pressure of off hitters. The fans saw this team had s%*# defense and DH's playing in the outfield. We watched this team do next to nothing to address the lack of power. Yeah there was hope before, but they truly failed building and supplementing this roster as necessary.

Didn't expect him to speak so I missed it. Well, the problem is the healthy guys suck ass. Cease isn't hurt is he? Has Lynn been hurt? I also see some healthy guys in our lineup sucking ass too. Robert, Vaughn, Tim, Grandal, and whoever is playing right field that day.