Buehrle>Wood Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 09:28 PM) Um... You mean, Jeremy Bonderman Right? What's wrong with Jeremy? A fine choice. He'll probaly be the best pitcher in the AL in a short 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Mind you, SportNews recently did poll to find out every pitcher in MLB who even has a legit shot at winning 200 games. They only came up with 2 names- TIm Hudson and Mark Buehrle. A 300 game winner would be something very special, even if it is doubtful from this point in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Peavy, Santana, Halladay, Sheets That's it, that's all no more no less those are the 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 03:53 PM) Peavy, Santana, Halladay, Sheets That's it, that's all no more no less those are the 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 All things considered--contracts, age, etc--Felix Hernandez, Johan Santana, Jeremy Bonderman, Jake Peavy, Doc Halladay, Ben Sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Mark has proven himself to be basically the most reliable pitcher in either league. Innings, quality starts, not particularly injury prone. There is no one else who matches him in all of those categories. Some pitchers have better stuff than him, but aren't as durable, and the guys who are as durable don't have as good of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 03:55 PM) All things considered--contracts, age, etc--Felix Hernandez, Johan Santana, Jeremy Bonderman, Jake Peavy, Doc Halladay, Ben Sheets. Felix Hernandez most likely will be good, but he is unproven so I'm not sure about that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 I'd trade him for Johann, Peavy, Oswalt, Halladay currently. Prior when healthy. That's about it. BMac is a whole different story. Oh, I almost forgot Mike Maroth and Kerry Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Mark is one of only a few who you know what you're getting out of him. I wouldn't trade Mark for anything though. Him and Frank are and deserve to be the faces of this franchise. If I had an absolute do not trade list, Mark goes on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 02:58 PM) I'd trade him for Johann, Peavy, Oswalt, Halladay currently. Prior when healthy. That's about it. BMac is a whole different story. Oh, I almost forgot Mike Maroth and Kerry Wood See, trouble is, you can't just trade for the "Healthy" prior, you have to trade for Prior in general. Ditto Johan, Halladay, Oswalt (don't know Peavy well enough). Each of those guys has been down with injuries or underperformed in the last 2 years. I wouldn't trade Mark's combination of talent and reliability for anything. Plus, those hour and 50 minute games sure are fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 I see where you guys are saying contract and age, but i wouldnt ever trade Mark Buehrle he is the best we have know and the best we will have in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) See, trouble is, you can't just trade for the "Healthy" prior, you have to trade for Prior in general. Ditto Johan, Halladay, Oswalt (don't know Peavy well enough). Each of those guys has been down with injuries or underperformed in the last 2 years. I wouldn't trade Mark's combination of talent and reliability for anything. Plus, those hour and 50 minute games sure are fun. When did Oswalt or Johan injure themselves or underperform. Oswalt had a groin thing a few years back but that's a fluke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 09:20 PM) He'll never be a monster pitcher. He is a monster pitcher... Cookie Monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnin Ugly Posted June 17, 2005 Author Share Posted June 17, 2005 Oswalt is awesome..I wouldnt trade MB but would struggle making a decision if the trade was for Oswalt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 05:13 PM) Oswalt is awesome..I wouldnt trade MB but would struggle making a decision if the trade was for Oswalt what make Oswalt so great? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 QUOTE(TheDybber @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 05:12 PM) He is a monster pitcher... Cookie Monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnin Ugly Posted June 17, 2005 Author Share Posted June 17, 2005 Oswalt lifetime stats 70-34 3.08 736 K's He is a very dominant pitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 05:17 PM) Oswalt lifetime stats 70-34 3.08 736 K's He is a very dominant pitcher Buehrles lifetime stats 76-46 3.68 642 Buehrle is also 2 years younger Almost the same stats Buehrles youner and he probaly wont go out an ditch us when his contract runs outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard chisox 1427 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 I heard this question on the score as well and the first name that came to mind was mark mulder. both boys would get sent home. however, I LOVE BUEHRLE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 I always thought Oswalt was older for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Santana and Pedro when healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 03:07 PM) When did Oswalt or Johan injure themselves or underperform. Oswalt had a groin thing a few years back but that's a fluke. Oswalt only pitches 21 games in 03. The Stros should have had a dominant staff that year but everyone was hurt, and kept getting hurt repeatedly. Santana had elbow surgery about 2 or 3 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Santana and thats it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 As a PR guy, I wouldn't trade Buehrle now. He's so damn good for the White Sox pissing off the Cubs. I f'n love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Peavy, Santana, Halladay, Sheets That's it, that's all no more no less those are the 4. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What has Sheets done in his career? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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