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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:20 PM)
No problem night.

Each has played 3 full seasons now. Blalock has more RBI's, more HR's, more doubles, more walks, and  more runs scored.

 

Maybe Hank just doesn't perform great on the road in general. If those who are implying he would be terrible in Chicago just because he doesnt hit as well out of Texas needs to realize some players just don't perform well on the road no matter where their home park is located. Hank is young, signed cheaply long-term, has enormous potential, and is injury free. He's much better than Joe Crede.

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QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 12:28 AM)
Yes, look at those numbers considering Blalock has batted 3rd/4th in each of those 3 seasons while Joe has been put in the #9 slot. Just some info on baseball, in the #9 slot, you're less likely to get more RBI's than the guy in the 3-4-5 spots. In fact, has there ever been a #9 hitter who has had more RBI's than a #3-4-5?? Also, Blalock's protection is Texieria and Soriano. Crede's protection is Podsednik and Uribe.

Which explains the RBI's, but Blalock still puts a hurt on the ball.

 

 

I could argue his away stats all day with you, but bottom line is that he is better on the road then Crede is at home.

 

What did Crede hit at the Cell last year, like .220 something?

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QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:32 PM)
Carlos Lee went a full season without one.

A tad bit more impressive at 3B...Just a smidge.

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QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 12:32 AM)
Carlos Lee went a full season without one.

 

Yeah but there also is a big difference between 3B and LF. Blalock prob isnt as good as Crede but he is still above avg. and id say he has a better arm.

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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 08:32 PM)
Which explains the RBI's, but Blalock still puts a hurt on the ball.

I could argue his away stats all day with you, but bottom line is that he is better on the road then Crede is at home.

 

What did Crede hit at the Cell last year, like .220 something?

.235 at home in 2005.

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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 07:33 PM)
In the outfield...

 

Ditto...if you've ever seen Hank at the hot corner you'd know he's no "average defensive 3rd baseman"

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QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 12:36 AM)
.235 at home in 2005.

Thank you.

 

 

I was off, but its still pretty piss poor.

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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 08:36 PM)
Thank you.

I was off, but its still pretty piss poor.

Any time.

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1)Someone bring up the Zone Ratings and all that good stuff to measure up the defense.

 

2)Crede on the road this past year, .269. Blalock .231. Blalock only does good at home, just like Soriano and most of that Texas squad. Just like Soriano, take Blalock out of Texas and you got an overrated player.

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Lemme get this straight.

 

We could get Hank Blalock...Hank effin' Blalock, allegedly?!?!?!?

 

:gosoxretro:

 

You think that Jim Thome is going to put a hurtin' on those right field bleachers?!?!? Wait until you see Hammerin' Hank get a piece of the action. And whoever is saying that Hank stinks at the 3b bag must be on something. Hank has played numerous games straight without an error, and his range is comparable to Joe's. Plus, Hank hits for more power, a little higher BA and is a lefty hitter, something that the Sox could add to their prominent right-hitting lineup.

 

I say go for it. And if the Rangers are allegedly throwing in a top prospect, all the more better.

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Crede ZR - .774

Blalock ZR - .778

 

Crede RF - 2.56

Blalock RF - 6.75

 

Career #'s FYI...

 

EDIT: Incorrect Blalock numbers...these are his numebr at 2nd base.

 

His numbers at 3B:

 

ZR - .748

RF - 2.57

Edited by SoxFan1

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Blalock:

Entire Season TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG

vs Left-handed Pitcher Texas Rangers 109 194 15 38 7 0 8 19 69 7 53 1 0 .228 .356 .196

vs Right-handed Pitcher Texas Rangers 148 453 65 132 27 0 17 73 210 44 79 0 0 .354 .464 .291

Home Texas Rangers 81 313 54 93 14 0 20 63 167 30 62 1 0 .361 .534 .297

Away Texas Rangers 80 334 26 77 20 0 5 29 112 21 70 0 0 .276 .335 .231

Grass Texas Rangers 147 588 79 162 32 0 25 90 269 50 120 1 0 .334 .457 .276

Turf Texas Rangers 14 59 1 8 2 0 0 2 10 1 12 0 0 .148 .169 .136

Day Texas Rangers 52 208 27 56 10 0 9 30 93 12 44 0 0 .308 .447 .269

Night Texas Rangers 109 439 53 114 24 0 16 62 186 39 88 1 0 .322 .424 .260

Mar and Apr Texas Rangers 24 98 13 26 7 0 4 13 45 14 18 1 0 .357 .459 .265

May Texas Rangers 25 105 15 32 6 0 5 16 53 6 30 0 0 .342 .505 .305

June Texas Rangers 27 108 15 31 5 0 6 19 54 10 20 0 0 .353 .500 .287

July Texas Rangers 27 114 17 28 4 0 4 14 44 9 25 0 0 .306 .386 .246

Aug Texas Rangers 29 115 11 30 3 0 4 16 45 4 15 0 0 .283 .391 .261

Sept and Oct Texas Rangers 29 107 9 23 9 0 2 14 38 8 24 0 0 .269 .355 .215

Before All-Star Texas Rangers 85 351 47 100 20 0 16 57 168 32 75 1 0 .346 .479 .285

After All-Star Texas Rangers 76 296 33 70 14 0 9 35 111 19 57 0 0 .283 .375 .236

 

 

 

Crede:

 

Entire Season TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG

vs Left-handed Pitcher Chicago White Sox 49 83 12 23 4 0 4 13 39 8 9 0 1 .344 .470 .277

vs Right-handed Pitcher Chicago White Sox 119 349 42 86 17 0 18 49 157 17 57 1 0 .292 .450 .246

Home Chicago White Sox 65 213 23 50 8 0 12 32 94 12 29 1 0 .281 .441 .235

Away Chicago White Sox 64 219 31 59 13 0 10 30 102 13 37 0 1 .324 .466 .269

Grass Chicago White Sox 116 389 50 98 18 0 22 58 182 23 57 1 0 .302 .468 .252

Turf Chicago White Sox 13 43 4 11 3 0 0 4 14 2 9 0 1 .306 .326 .256

Day Chicago White Sox 47 151 14 31 6 0 8 20 61 9 19 1 1 .255 .404 .205

Night Chicago White Sox 82 281 40 78 15 0 14 42 135 16 47 0 0 .329 .480 .278

Mar and Apr Chicago White Sox 24 79 12 24 6 0 2 9 36 5 9 0 0 .368 .456 .304

May Chicago White Sox 26 84 8 13 2 0 3 9 24 5 17 0 1 .211 .286 .155

June Chicago White Sox 25 80 11 22 3 0 6 17 43 5 10 1 0 .333 .538 .275

July Chicago White Sox 20 69 10 21 5 0 4 12 38 4 11 0 0 .342 .551 .304

Aug Chicago White Sox 16 58 2 6 1 0 1 1 10 2 10 0 0 .148 .172 .103

Sept and Oct Chicago White Sox 18 62 11 23 4 0 6 14 45 4 9 0 0 .409 .726 .371

Before All-Star Chicago White Sox 80 260 32 63 12 0 12 37 111 16 40 1 1 .300 .427 .242

After All-Star Chicago White Sox 49 172 22 46 9 0 10 25 85 9 26 0 0 .308 .494 .267

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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:12 PM)
According to the 1st post, we would be getting the prospect.

 

My mistake. I guess i'm used to us always being the ones to give up the major prospects. I still don't like this deal.

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QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 08:45 PM)
Blalock:

Entire Season    TEAM    G    AB    R    H    2B    3B    HR    RBI    TB    BB    SO    SB    CS    OBP    SLG    AVG

vs Left-handed Pitcher      Texas Rangers  109  194  15  38  7  0  8  19  69  7  53  1  0  .228  .356  .196

vs Right-handed Pitcher      Texas Rangers  148  453  65  132  27  0  17  73  210  44  79  0  0  .354  .464  .291

Home      Texas Rangers  81  313  54  93  14  0  20  63  167  30  62  1  0  .361  .534  .297

Away      Texas Rangers  80  334  26  77  20  0  5  29  112  21  70  0  0  .276  .335  .231

Grass      Texas Rangers  147  588  79  162  32  0  25  90  269  50  120  1  0  .334  .457  .276

Turf      Texas Rangers  14  59  1  8  2  0  0  2  10  1  12  0  0  .148  .169  .136

Day      Texas Rangers  52  208  27  56  10  0  9  30  93  12  44  0  0  .308  .447  .269

Night      Texas Rangers  109  439  53  114  24  0  16  62  186  39  88  1  0  .322  .424  .260

Mar and Apr      Texas Rangers  24  98  13  26  7  0  4  13  45  14  18  1  0  .357  .459  .265

May      Texas Rangers  25  105  15  32  6  0  5  16  53  6  30  0  0  .342  .505  .305

June      Texas Rangers  27  108  15  31  5  0  6  19  54  10  20  0  0  .353  .500  .287

July      Texas Rangers  27  114  17  28  4  0  4  14  44  9  25  0  0  .306  .386  .246

Aug      Texas Rangers  29  115  11  30  3  0  4  16  45  4  15  0  0  .283  .391  .261

Sept and Oct      Texas Rangers  29  107  9  23  9  0  2  14  38  8  24  0  0  .269  .355  .215

Before All-Star      Texas Rangers  85  351  47  100  20  0  16  57  168  32  75  1  0  .346  .479  .285

After All-Star      Texas Rangers  76  296  33  70  14  0  9  35  111  19  57  0  0  .283  .375  .236

Crede:

 

Entire Season  TEAM  G  AB  R  H  2B  3B  HR  RBI  TB  BB  SO  SB  CS  OBP  SLG  AVG

vs Left-handed Pitcher      Chicago White Sox  49  83  12  23  4  0  4  13  39  8  9  0  1  .344  .470  .277

vs Right-handed Pitcher      Chicago White Sox  119  349  42  86  17  0  18  49  157  17  57  1  0  .292  .450  .246

Home      Chicago White Sox  65  213  23  50  8  0  12  32  94  12  29  1  0  .281  .441  .235

Away      Chicago White Sox  64  219  31  59  13  0  10  30  102  13  37  0  1  .324  .466  .269

Grass      Chicago White Sox  116  389  50  98  18  0  22  58  182  23  57  1  0  .302  .468  .252

Turf      Chicago White Sox  13  43  4  11  3  0  0  4  14  2  9  0  1  .306  .326  .256

Day      Chicago White Sox  47  151  14  31  6  0  8  20  61  9  19  1  1  .255  .404  .205

Night      Chicago White Sox  82  281  40  78  15  0  14  42  135  16  47  0  0  .329  .480  .278

Mar and Apr      Chicago White Sox  24  79  12  24  6  0  2  9  36  5  9  0  0  .368  .456  .304

May      Chicago White Sox  26  84  8  13  2  0  3  9  24  5  17  0  1  .211  .286  .155

June      Chicago White Sox  25  80  11  22  3  0  6  17  43  5  10  1  0  .333  .538  .275

July      Chicago White Sox  20  69  10  21  5  0  4  12  38  4  11  0  0  .342  .551  .304

Aug      Chicago White Sox  16  58  2  6  1  0  1  1  10  2  10  0  0  .148  .172  .103

Sept and Oct      Chicago White Sox  18  62  11  23  4  0  6  14  45  4  9  0  0  .409  .726  .371

Before All-Star      Chicago White Sox  80  260  32  63  12  0  12  37  111  16  40  1  1  .300  .427  .242

After All-Star      Chicago White Sox  49  172  22  46  9  0  10  25  85  9  26  0  0  .308  .494  .267

Nice one....thanks for the headache.

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Here's the exact quote...

 

It is speculated down in Dallas that the White Sox are on the verge of sending Jon Garland and Joe Crede to the Rangers for Brad Wilkerson, Hank Blalock and a major prospect.

Submitted by: Ralph Malph

4:17 PM CST, Dec 14, 2005

 

ralph malph?? look, just because some schmo says something doesnt mean it's true.

 

but watch espn report it anyway.

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QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 12:41 AM)
1)Someone bring up the Zone Ratings and all that good stuff to measure up the defense.

 

2)Crede on the road this past year, .269. Blalock .231. Blalock only does good at home, just like Soriano and most of that Texas squad. Just like Soriano, take Blalock out of Texas and you got an overrated player.

Crede doesn't even do good at home. He hit .235 at the Cell. :puke

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I just read this thread, and I can't believe people would actually be upset if this happened. Blalock is better than Crede, and Wilkerson would be an upgrade in CF. It's that simple...we can afford to give up Garland right now. Also, Crede will make more money once he becomes a FA than the deal Blalock is on right now.

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QUOTE(timotime @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 12:52 AM)
see the playoffs this last season. lest we forget.

Yes, let's just unnecessarily reward players for what they have done in the past. That will get us far.

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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 08:55 PM)
Yes, let's just unnecessarily reward players for what they have done in the past. That will get us far.

Shhhhh............duck for cover.

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Yes, let's just unnecessarily reward players for what they have done in the past. That will get us far.

 

well at this point we would be essentially cleaning house after a world series championship. you want to do that?

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QUOTE(timotime @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 12:58 AM)
well at this point we would be essentially cleaning house after a world series championship. you want to do that?

If it for the good, why not?

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