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Who should Romney choose as VP candidate?

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Rubio is scary, as a DEM, for the future. He'll be hard to stop, if he survives the vetting process, and he will easily turn the 25/75 disadvantage to 75/25 the other way around in terms of driving the Hispanic vote.

 

As far as debaters in my lifetime, that I've seen personally:

 

1) Mario Cuomo

2) Bill Clinton

3) Jesse Jackson

4) Barack Obama

 

 

Picking Santorum is insane. Hilary Clinton has the same exact demographic in terms of her appeal, and his presence on the ticket will scare almost every woman in America out to vote. Obama's ego is too big, and so is Biden's, but the perfect countermove to that would be placing Hilary on the ticket as VP.

 

 

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 5, 2012 -> 03:47 PM)
Rubio says he's out. Somehow doubt they'd go for a Bush right now. Christie, I hate to say it, but his weight will be an image issue. He's also a little brash.

 

I think Romney may have made a deal with Gingrich, for Newt to either be VP or in his cabinet, in exchange for staying in the race as long as possible to keep Santorum at bay. They had a private meeting a couple weeks ago.

 

Neither of the Paul's are going to work at all.

 

I think he goes for either Paul Ryan or Bobby Jindal - if he doesn't have a VP deal in place with Gingrich as noted above.

 

Chris Christie brings no help to the ticket. He would not be able to deliver New Jersey to Romney.

 

A powerful GOP establishment figure who can bring a state in play is what's crucial in Romney's pick IMHO. Rob Portman of Ohio might be a great pick actually. As long as you don't mind having two really dull people at the top of the ticket.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 6, 2012 -> 01:35 PM)
Will adding another "GOP establishment" pick hurt the conservative base's enthusiasm even more?

I don't think it helps, but it won't make them any more fired up than normal.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 6, 2012 -> 12:35 PM)
Will adding another "GOP establishment" pick hurt the conservative base's enthusiasm even more?

 

not likely. the prospects of defeating Obama will keep their enthusiasm very high. no matter who (within reason) is the GOP VP

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he's going to pick the governor of New Mexico.

 

1. He needs help with women.

2. He needs help with Latinos

3. Will try and make New Mexico into a swing state

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QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 09:10 PM)
he's going to pick the governor of New Mexico.

 

1. He needs help with women.

2. He needs help with Latinos

3. Will try and make New Mexico into a swing state

 

Susana Martinez or Ramirez or whatever her name is.

 

Don't count on it.

 

He needs to worry more about Ohio and Florida than NM.

 

It's too naked a play for Hispanics and women to reverse everything said throughout this primary season, especially about the border fence and how Romney agrees 100% with the AZ laws regarding immigration, as well as some of the harsher comments about the Dream Act.

 

There's no way to walk that back now.

 

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he's going to pick the governor of New Mexico.

 

1. He needs help with women.

2. He needs help with Latinos

3. Will try and make New Mexico into a swing state

 

Picking a conservative woman does not win you the women's vote. There's nothing that liberal and left-leaning moderate women hate more than conservative women.

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Hmm, Kay Bailey Hutchinson would be an interesting pick if they are looking at women.

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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 12:22 PM)
Picking a conservative woman does not win you the women's vote. There's nothing that liberal and left-leaning moderate women hate more than conservative women.

 

i agree with that, see Sarah Palin.

 

However, as much as they say Obama's got an enthusiasm drop-off, I still think its higher than Romney's.

 

No one is horribly excited about Mitt Romney. Maybe having the 1st female, 1st hispanic, Vice President may change that enthusiasm for 5-10% of the population, enough to win.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 6, 2012 -> 11:45 AM)
Rubio is scary, as a DEM, for the future. He'll be hard to stop, if he survives the vetting process, and he will easily turn the 25/75 disadvantage to 75/25 the other way around in terms of driving the Hispanic vote.

 

As far as debaters in my lifetime, that I've seen personally:

 

1) Mario Cuomo

2) Bill Clinton

3) Jesse Jackson

4) Barack Obama

 

 

Picking Santorum is insane. Hilary Clinton has the same exact demographic in terms of her appeal, and his presence on the ticket will scare almost every woman in America out to vote. Obama's ego is too big, and so is Biden's, but the perfect countermove to that would be placing Hilary on the ticket as VP.

Not really, he might peal away a few but most latinos are Democrats because they are blue collar folks and see the GOP as hostile to minorities.

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I think his "best" option would be Brian Sandoval. Unlike some other options being mentioned to appeal to hispanic voters, Sandoval would actually be qualified to take over the Presidency if needed. He's a Governor, former federal judge, held statewide offices, etc.

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QUOTE (Chet Lemon @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 08:51 PM)
I think his "best" option would be Brian Sandoval. Unlike some other options being mentioned to appeal to hispanic voters, Sandoval would actually be qualified to take over the Presidency if needed. He's a Governor, former federal judge, held statewide offices, etc.

 

 

Except very few people have even heard of him. I thought I followed presidential politics pretty closely and that name has never once been on the radar screen nationally.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 10:03 PM)
Except very few people have even heard of him. I thought I followed presidential politics pretty closely and that name has never once been on the radar screen nationally.

 

These days that can actually be a good thing.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2012 -> 09:39 AM)
These days that can actually be a good thing.

It didn't work out so well for the last VP candidate no one had heard of before her selection.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 10, 2012 -> 08:40 AM)
It didn't work out so well for the last VP candidate no one had heard of before her selection.

 

It turned out well for the President.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2012 -> 09:56 AM)
It turned out well for the President.

Joe Biden may not have been known by the average Joe (not named Biden) on the street, but he was well known within political circles, to the point where his positives and negatives were already well established. Hell, In 2002, I wrote a column titled "Joe Biden Hates you". He was absolutely a known quantity politically. He was going to make Gaffes, he had a legislative record that could be attacked, but you could also easily make the case that he had a substantial foreign policy background. He was only a "Wild card" if he made a particularly silly gaffe.

 

I have no impressions of the other guy whatsoever other than thinking he plays 3b for the Giants, and I can't imagine that much of the media does either.

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 10, 2012 -> 10:49 AM)
Well that went over Balta's head.

If that's the case...

 

Oops. My bad.

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QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 11:10 PM)
he's going to pick the governor of New Mexico.

 

1. He needs help with women.

2. He needs help with Latinos

3. Will try and make New Mexico into a swing state

 

 

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 8, 2012 -> 11:29 PM)
Susana Martinez or Ramirez or whatever her name is.

 

Don't count on it.

 

He needs to worry more about Ohio and Florida than NM.

 

It's too naked a play for Hispanics and women to reverse everything said throughout this primary season, especially about the border fence and how Romney agrees 100% with the AZ laws regarding immigration, as well as some of the harsher comments about the Dream Act.

 

There's no way to walk that back now.

 

 

Martinez came out with an "I'm not interested" statement last weekend, but at least for now, it appears to me to have a much more credible, family-based reason for why she actually wouldn't be interested.

..Martinez insists that when she says "no," she means it.

 

Martinez told the Journal recently that her responsibility as guardian of her developmentally disabled sister, Lettie, in Las Cruces is one that she can't take to Washington, D.C., regardless of who calls.

 

"The family has to be a consideration, and for me to take (my sister) to Washington would be to separate her from ... the family that's down there, and that would be devastating," Martinez said. "I just couldn't do it."

Obviously the denials at this point should be greeted with skepticism, but if that's actually true, that's a tough one to believe she could state and then maneuver around.

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