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Montgomery has to be damn near untouchable. I don't even like the idea of trading Bonemer, but at least he plays a position where the Sox are heavy on prospects.

Go get Holmes & Ray. That won't cost you a Bonemer, Smith or Carlson. Rotation: Burke/Martin/Ray/Holmes/Kay Fedde to the bullpen

Martin, Kay and Burke are locks for the rotation next year. We have Shane Smith, Hagen Smith, Thorpe, Adams, Schultz, Sandlin, McDougal in the wings. I have to imagine at least 3 of those guys are dealt. Eventually, won't you run into a 40 man crunch or have to keep them in AAA?

The Angels are so far away that they should focus on getting the most talent back regardless of where they are in the minors. Then again, it’s the Angels. Wouldn’t surprise me if they wanted guys to plug into their lineup right away.

Davis better bring it today

Urquidy is nothing but depth. He was DFAed and acquired for a DSL relief prospect…he is not part of the major league plan. Disagree on this.

Yep, especially if next 5 games before deadline don’t go well

Pedro Ramirez or Matt Shaw beats Carlson as headliner

If these are the rumored prices, I wouldn’t be shocked if Getz settles for an expiring contract starter and Urquidy, along with a decent catcher, and I can’t say he should be blamed if that is the end result of the deadline.

We should consider doing one of both…a controllable SP and a rental SP with a big contract whose salary will weigh down the prospect cost.

I don't know. Angels never trade guys and dudes like this with 2.5 years of control don't often move due to asking price. I've heard they asked the Cubs for Hartshorn and Ben Brown. Bonemer or Braden Montgomery plus

They won’t get a Bonemer level talent for Detmers. I’m sure they’re asking, but at some point they will concede to market value.

5 days to go and not only has nothing of substance really happened leaguewide, but there hasn't even been many legit rumors. I suppose this is a function of the new reality that there are less known sellers with the expanded playoffs.

I think Carlson is about as good as a headliner that Detmers will command. After that it’s hard to say, but Quero is a post hype former top 100 guy and Adams is a major league ready SP who is 26 years old and lacks ceiling. To me it feels about right and the fact people here see at being too much & too little suggests it may not be too far off.

Detmers just turned 27, has two more years of cheap control, and looks like he has turned the corner. If the rumor that Getz doesn’t want to give up top prospects and would prefer to take on money, Detmers isn’t even a fit anyways.

I bet they are asking for Bonemer.

What would be astronomical for the Sox?

I agree that’s almost always the case…I just think no team is in need of a controllable SP more than us and Getz push hard to land one.

Dude…this is nowhere close to reality. Detmers is a former top 50 prospect who finally figured things out under Mike Maddux and who currently has the peripherals of a high end SP. His value with 2 1/3 years of control is going to be very high. People pay for expected go-forward performance and not past. Meanwhile, Lodise isn’t even an org top 20 guy for me and Bergolla is semi interesting due to age & hit tool, but lacks ceiling and is also currently injured again. They are nothing but secondary pieces in a trade for Detmers. Fine if you don’t like the player or price, but let’s avoid creating false realities here.

Even if Noah’s father feels that way, I doubt he would ever say it publicly as long as his son is with the Sox organization.

Will require more than that.

Really? Wow. I already thought pitchers were going to be outrageously expensive but even I’m surprised by that.

You need to start posting only legit insiders, like Bartolo’s bungholio.

I would bet money that package is better than what he goes for.