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chw42 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I don't think any team will pay a huge price for him when the Cubs don't really have a place to play him. You can't really negotiate with any leverage if the alternative is that he sits on the bench or spot starts a few times a week. -
We just had him last year lol. He's a guy who can only rush the passer so don't ever play him when the other team can run at him.
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And 10 of the top 11 are WSox draftees. McDougal, Oppor, Antonacci and LaCombe are lower round picks everybody's been clamoring for the Sox to sneak into their top prospect lists.
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Go get this guy. Also, who is this guy?
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Not sure to be honest, but’s he got some pedigree from past prospect rankings and for certain people he has friends in the right places. I personally don’t see enough to pay up what would likely be a steep price to block someone like Vargas who also has some prospect pedigree and doesn’t cost us anything to give him an extended look at 3B this year.
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January 12, 1982 - In the January phase of the amateur draft that no longer exists today, the White Sox unearthed the unlikeliest of success stories. John Cangelosi was selected with the No. 433 overall pick, befitting a 5-8 fireplug of a player. He played at Miami Dade College. Three years later, Cangelosi made his Major League debut in Chicago, and in 1986 he leapfrogged the more highly-touted Daryl Boston to make the Opening Day roster as Chicago’s center fielder and leadoff hitter. He swiped 39 bases by the All-Star break, but then was benched rather curiously by midseason manager replacement Jim Fregosi. His best hitting game with the Sox came early in that same 1986 season when he banged out four hits in a 4-3 loss to Milwaukee at Comiskey Park on April 9. Traded to Pittsburgh after the 1986 season, Cangelosi would play 11 more years in the big leagues, winning a World Series with the 1997 Florida Marlins. January 12, 2000 - Sox G.M. Ron Schueler made amends for some of his worst moves by shipping disgruntled pitcher Jamie Navarro to Milwaukee as part of a four-player deal. In exchange he got long ball hitting shortstop Jose Valentin and pitcher Cal Eldred. Both would play a large part in the unexpected divisional championship in 2000. Eldred went 10-2 in 20 starts for the team that season before an elbow injury basically ended his White Sox career in July. Valentin played five years on the South Side averaging 120 hits, 27 home runs and 76 RBI's in those years and he was a Cub-killer. One of the highlights in Jose's White Sox stint was a very rare accomplishment, a ‘natural’ cycle which took place against the Orioles on April 27, 2000. He singled in the first, doubled in the second, tripled in the third and homered in the eighth inning in a 13-4 win. For the day he went 4 for 5 with five RBI’s and two runs scored.
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I’m actually kind of shocked how good this system is for having practically nothing coming from Latin America. I really like the top 9 guys. I think Schultz & Smith are both suffering from some prospect fatigue and deserve a greater benefit of the doubt when it comes to their somewhat lackluster results last year. If Schultz’s slider comes back next year (which I don’t see why it wouldn’t), then I see him as the same high ceiling, 60 FV talent he always was with the same question marks on health & durability. Bonemer has a fuckton of helium right now and could cement top 30 prospect status with a strong start to the season. And candidly, I think that Braden is being slept on a ton. Dude no doubt has contact issue concerns, but he has insane physical ability and was pushed up three levels in his first professional season. Overall, the top nine is very fucking good. I think 10 through 20 is where you start seeing the cracks. Lots of low ceiling SPs, an intriguing arm who likely ends up being a reliever in Batista, a high ceiling high floor OF in Wolkow, and a bunch of UT / 2B types. We’re really going to need some breakthrough performances from guys in the 20’s and beyond to fill in the gaps here. The likely graduations of many guys in the top 20 won’t help matter, but what should be a strong 2026 draft should help by season’s end. Again, really need the LA program to start bearing fruit in the next couple of years if we ever want to have a consistently good farm system.
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chw42 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
What is this infatuation with Shaw that I clearly don't see? He had 3rd percentile exit velo, 16th percentile bat speed. He doesn't hit the ball hard at all. Sure he's fast and good on defense, but you can't stick at 3B hitting the ball that softly. His entire Baseball Savant page is blue (ironic) except his whiff% and sprint speed. -
Teams run fake screen wheel all the time. Hell, Sarkisian runs it every game with the Longhorns and it usually works when they play bad teams. But the fact that Ben put Wright out there on the opposite side of the formation as a blocker made it look so much like a screen that Green Bay 100% took the bait and left DJ wide open. What's also great on that play is that if the safety bit too much towards DJ on the wheel, Loveland would have been wide open on the post. Ben dressed up a very vanilla play and threw in a wrinkle in there to basically make sure there was an option no matter what Green Bay did out of a single high look. This is why the details matter.
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WestEddy replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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A lot of negative WAR was framing though. He’s known as a good pitching handler and I believe the other aspects of his defense are viewed as being solid (or will be with time). But yes, maybe going young at catcher is a tougher sell when you are trying to win a World Series. But if it allows you to afford Tucker…maybe?
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GreenSox replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Good trade for Sox if Philly is willing. I can’t see a team in the Phillies’ position turning their catching over to Quero: Not a lot of experience and he had a negative fWar. -
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WestEddy replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
1) Matt Shaw isn't available. 2) I'm picking Vargas over Shaw 10 times out of 10 due to coachability, track record and makeup. 3) There is no need to obtain another infielder. The Sox have already chosen Vargas, Meidroth, Monty, Mead, maybe Ramos...Murray...Antonacci - to work with and place-hold until Bonemer, Carlson and 2026/1,1 start filtering up. 4) Any trade resources should be used to add an OF, SP or bullpen, in that order. 5) As a thought exercise, yeah, it would be fun to grab Matt Shaw off waivers, or to trade Benintendi for him. Nothing palatable is in the realm of possibilities. 6) I support you in wishing Chris Getz was banging the phones to obtain him. I think that would be a waste of Getz's time and energy. And yours. -
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southsider2k5 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Again, we have dudes we could do that with on our own. Not interested in wasting resources on shorter term acquisitions for failed former top prospects. It is positively Getzian. -
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WhiteSox2023 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Part of the thought would be to potentially move him to LF since he played there in college. Benintendi could DH until he is finally gone forever. -
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southsider2k5 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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Keep #26 far away from him.
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I honestly think it’s because the organization as a whole thinks Sirianni is weird lol. And, I mean, he is. Not even like coachy coach weird, just a strange dude. And I think that a better HC can take that roster farther at this point, this season was very strange for them
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Let’s be honest, Vargas has two full seasons worst of plate appearances and was significantly better in his second set. There is still plenty room for improvement at his age and with his limited experience. We’ll see if he can ever live up to his past top 60 prospect status, but he’s far from a finished product (good or bad).
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No idea, but Shaw isn’t going to be free while Vargas is. Ultimately, I don’t see us being interested in Shaw given our glut of infielders. Just a poor use of resource allocation unless he comes incredibly cheap, which I very much doubt. IMO, you need to see what you have in Vargas at 3B this year. If he can handle the position and show a bit more power, he can be a core piece from 2027 to 2029 or at worse a valuable trade chip. Vargas flashed enough last year to avoid blocking him with further outside additions.
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Bob Sacamano replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Wish the Sox took swings like taking on salary and prospects from a team trying to salary dump because Castellanos would be an obvious one. -
Yeah, I’d assume Marsh is the primary CF but he would need a platoon partner. Regardless, that wouldn’t be Crawford due to handedness. I don’t believe that Castellanos ends up in their 2026 plans and will eventually be cut. He has negative surplus value and they appear to be done with him altogether.
