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Roki Sasaki Free Agency - Dodgers vs Blue Jays for Roki's heart
WestEddy replied to Timmy U's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You're right. You baseball so much better than I do. LOL. -
Roki Sasaki Free Agency - Dodgers vs Blue Jays for Roki's heart
WestEddy replied to Timmy U's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Because he'd be just one of a bunch of Japanese players on a team. He'd be the only one on the Sox, therefore, solely representing the Sox' end of the "rivalry". Laughing? Okay. The Sox were mentioned as a team being seriously considered. It's not like they threw the Savannah Bananas at the end of the list to fill it out. If this was Angelstalk, all of you glum ones would be crawling over each other to shut down any happy talk with a declaration that the Angels would never win again until Artie Moreno died. -
White Sox asking for "top prospects" for Robert
WestEddy replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Bohm would be sent to the As, and the As would send Muncy to the White Sox for the privilege. -
Roki Sasaki Free Agency - Dodgers vs Blue Jays for Roki's heart
WestEddy replied to Timmy U's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Chicago's a destination. Again, we're already going to have a team of rookies. Roki could be the veteran of the rotation. We're slotting in 1st or 2nd year guys at 4-5 positions a night. The team will already be sneaking up on some in 2026. Not saying they'll be in the pennant race, but they'll have nice streaks that'll make the summer interesting. There are already Japanese players in Chicago to lean on. The Cubs/Sox rivalry is fun in a way that I don't think the Mets/Yanks or Dodgers/Angels are. -
What a catastrophe that pick was. I hate playing the game of "Look who was drafted after him!!" (Bradfield, Lombard, Aiden Miller, Brice Matthews, BTW), but I'm curious who Mike Shirley was focused on when Jeremy Haber allegedly made the call on Gonzo.
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Roki Sasaki Free Agency - Dodgers vs Blue Jays for Roki's heart
WestEddy replied to Timmy U's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Why laughed at? It's silly to pretend that the White Sox will never win 60 games in a season again. The FO will be relatively stable while Reinsdorf's alive. He's getting in on the ground floor of a rebuild, and will be the man for all 6 seasons on the South Side. If the Sox or subsequent owners don't step up to the plate, dude's a free agent at 28. Already, 2025's going to be a "Kids Can Play" season. 26 is only going to be more fun for the team as they grow into a contender. It's a compelling situation, and it looks like the only team being mentioned from that angle. -
Roki Sasaki Free Agency - Dodgers vs Blue Jays for Roki's heart
WestEddy replied to Timmy U's topic in Pale Hose Talk
All these baseball people and players "buying in" to Chris Getz' vision. Why not Sasaki? -
Roki Sasaki Free Agency - Dodgers vs Blue Jays for Roki's heart
WestEddy replied to Timmy U's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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Plus, the Canadian dollar is worth about 70 US cents.
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Weird that the Orioles aren't shaking all the trees for guys like this.
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You seem to be claiming that Getz was given the best talent in the game, and he failed to "develop" it. Caulfield is pointing out that most of the talent that was shipped out hasn't really been unlocked by other, more superior organizations.
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3rd rounders - Alex Call (2016), Luis Gonzalez (2017) and Konner Pilkington (2018) were all traded and made the bigs with other teams. Gonzalez and Pilkington were progressing nicely when traded. Weird how their acquiring teams couldn't unlock that next level in them. Dalquist (2019) and Coffey (2020) are being groomed as bullpen arms. Sean Burke (2021) and Jonathan Cannon (2022) look to be in our rotation this season. Yeah, totally ruined all these guys and didn't develop them.
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You seem to be implying that the White Sox' drafts were stellar. Let's look at 2nd rounders 2016 - Alec Hansen - brought along slowly, something snapped at AA and he couldn't throw strikes anymore. 2017 - Gavin Sheets - never developed power. Played out of position in bigs. 2018 - Steele Walker. Progressing nicely, traded to Texas for Nomar Mazara. 2019 - Matt Thompson. Walked too many people. Cubs couldn't fix him, either. 2020 - Jared Kelley. Walk rates too high. 2021 - Wes Kath. Never developed his hit tool. Which of these guys are can't miss major leaguers that Chris Getz personally messed up?
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Chris Getz was hired in October 2016. Since then, the White Sox have drafted in the top 10 three times. 2016 - Zach Collins taken at 10. He had a known hitch in his swing, and the pick was panned. That was a notoriously shallow draft. 2017 - Jake Burger at 11. Tore his Achilles tendon twice. 2018 - Nick Madrigal at 4. Spent one full season in the minors. He hit .300 for the White Sox before being traded for being injured too often. 2019 - Andrew Vaughn at 3. He had 245 PAs in minor league ball before being promoted to the bigs. 2020 - Garret Crochet at 11. Skipped the minors. 2021 - Colson Montgomery at 22. Was a top 20 in the game prospect before injuries at AA. Still top 50. 2022 - Noah Schultz at 26. Top 20 in the game prospect. I'm not sure what you're arguing, here. You're not even correct with your assertions about Chris Getz' tenure. Eloy, Yoan, Giolito, Lopez, Cease, Kopech all were promoted to the bigs. Are you saying that Cease wasn't developed?
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White Sox asking for "top prospects" for Robert
WestEddy replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Maybe they'll want Julks back, too. -
Old friend alert
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None of this makes any sense, but I think that's the purpose. I hope one day you find peace with being relieved of your position, Rick.
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Analytics, pitching and hitting tech labs, nutrition and sleep study - none of that was as advanceded as it is now. The Sox were on more of an even playing field, then. You're not really refuting anything. Surely, you're not claiming that the White Sox have been state-of-the-art in all areas of development for the last decade?
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Player development is entry level. Always has been. Yes, after 9 years of FO experience, he was promoted to GM.
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Again, if they refused to update themselves, even into the same century, with the appropriate resources, I'm not sure what kind of baseball player whisperer you secretly dreamed of Chris Getz being.
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That can't possibly be true!! Because everybody in the front office is so incompetent that they can't even speak; they roll around on the floor and make whale noises. This isn't even being a "Chris Getz fan". I'm sorry, but not even being able to entertain the possibility that the current GM may have been frustrated in his job by the previous bosses belies some deeper problem. It's common knowledge that any area you can think of, the White Sox were behind the rest of the league. So I'm not sure why it's unacceptable to suggest that without any of the tools and updated methods that other teams used to evaluate and develop players, Chris Getz was doomed from the get-go.
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And it amazes me that people actually believe that a lower, entry level hire would make that decision for an entire organization. Maybe Getz was trying to modernize development, and got stiff-armed every step of the way. Weird that the first thing he did when made GM was start modernizing development. Almost as if it had been a burning goal of his for a while.
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Like Joseph Reinsdorf and Larry King's kids? Or maybe KW and Haber bum rushed the war room and told them to draft Zack Collins instead of ... I don't know. Will Smith or Sean Murphy? And this pre-supposes that you truly believe that Nick Madrigal and Zack Collins would be on HOF tracks had they been developed properly.
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No. It changed because the VP telling him they didn't need all that was fired, and the new GM told him they did. I'm not sure how that registers as "far fetched" for you.
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And this seems to imply that Jerry Reinsdorf spared no expense to modernize player development under Getz, bringing in state-of-the-art everything, Paddy and Hostetler bringing in the best prospects in the game, and Getz just sat on his thumb.
