WestEddy

Dude, relax. I'm goofin'. There aren't even rumors right now. Just trying to fire up some convo.

Counterpoint: No they don't.

Cal Mitchell, OF out of Pittsburg's minor league system, just spent the previous year treading water in El Paso for the Padres.

I think IllinoisPolicy.org is a conservative front group, so I take what they say with a grain of salt, but they're estimating that the Houston metro area will surpass the Chicago metro area in 2035. And Dallas/Ft. Worth is larger than Houston.

I would take a hard look at the Brewers before defaulting to Cub fandom. Detroit and Cleveland would probably be AL landing spots.

My late uncle had the same loyalties. When the Cardinals moved, he started rooting for the Packers.

What makes you so sure Chicago would get another expansion team? Houston is going to pass Chicago in population in the next decade, or so, and nobody is talking about a 2nd team for Houston.

Perhaps you should be calling Dave Dombrowski and asking him this. I haven't been in favor of acquiring Bohm. Perhaps you should be answer your own question. Why are you floating Bohm as a target?

Of course. As of now, we have at-bats against lefty pitchers for a RF to spare. We really can't sign any more OFs as there really isn't the space to play them, and the rookies we need to have a look at. I mean, okay, if we sign Hays, he plays in LF, DH Benny, then you're cutting into playing time for Sosa/Baldwin/Ramos/Valdas.

Part of the problem I have with the cavalier "the Sox could obtain any player - they just need to offer enough" takes is that Benintendi is a product of that. He was probably worth a 3-year deal, and Hahn went to 5 to get him in uniform. Now we're paying for that mindset. If Benintendi wasn't here, we could sign all the Austin Hays we could conceivably meet, and just rotate them all through LF and RF. Now, we have to rotate about 6 players through RF and DH. I think if the Sox sign an IF and a catcher, they're done on the offensive side. There really isn't the room or time to give a 4 month showcase to another Tommy Pham.

Okay, "headliner" is inaccurate. A significant piece. If Philadelphia is pushing Bohm, then Sox fans are going to take a hard, critical look at Bohm. That's great he put up numbers in the first 4 months. He turned into a pumpkin after the TDL. I'll leave the "we should be honored to even be offered Bohm" takes to Caulfield. This talk has most likely been long rendered moot, at this point. Bohm was probably floated once as a piece, Getz said, "whaddya, nuts?!?", and it was over.

If nobody's elite, then why do we have to hang onto Crochet?

I'm not sure what your point is. Bohm is being floated by some as a possible "headliner" for Crochet. So, yes, he is going to be broken down as a return piece.

Great. So you're saying the Sox being run like Twitter is a step up?

If they think they can "fix" Bohm, or tap something in his swing, he could be our 3B for 4 months, then trade him at the deadline. Or just flip him, now. His walks certainly fell off in August, and didn't seem to really come back from his IL stint. Maybe the Phillies just see him as injured in a way that will take him into 2025 to truly recover from. Either way, he never developed the power he should have, and his defense hasn't progressed into a clear asset.

You're probably a hoot at a dart bar.

Robert averages 1 win more a year than Bohm. He has a defensive home, and has consistently produced at least average f and bWAR throughout his career. "Schlub" may have been strong, but Robert has a higher ceiling that he has already shown himself capable of reaching.

If you truly believe that the White Sox will suck for the next 10 years, what's the point, then? You'll see one 3-0 loss a week, then five to six 10-2 losses for the rest. For ten years. And that's if Chris Getz doesn't run down to the clubhouse with a hammer and break Crochet's arm, because he's so stupid, he thinks that's good for a pitcher.

This is silly. Bohm is a schlub who finally put up a good half season, while still being bad, defensively. Robert has put up "average major leaguer" WAR in all of his 5 pro years, and has exceeded that, twice. The risk of keeping Robert into the season is that he gets injured, again. Any organization has to look at him as unrealized talent that can be coached back above Bohm's whopping big 3 WAR season pretty easily.

There are complete salary caps in the NBA and NFL. I haven't seen a championship parade in Chicago for either of those sports for a while, now.

I've got no problem with that. I like the idea of flipping Hays in July for a live AA arm, but at some point, we need to start slotting prospects into the lineup. Austin Hays could play out of his head, and we're still not biting our nails in September, hoping to clear 50 wins.

But more than that wouldn't play here if we were offering the same money as another team. Brewers and White Sox have identical contracts on the table for a right-fielder, which do you think he chooses? He picks the team that has a chance to compete, can produce better stats with protection in the lineup, and he has a better chance of living with his family the entire 7 months of the season. So we have to pay more? Why do we need to pay a premium for reclamation projects and 26th man platoon players? We did that with Slater. We overpaid him a ML contract instead of a minor league deal with an invite to camp. The Phillies saw Hays for 2+ months, and balked at paying him ~$6.4 million. So maybe he signs for $4-5 somewhere. Are you saying the White Sox should pay Hays $6 million to have a rehab RF for one season? Like others have said, what's the point? The Orioles got a good reliever in exchange for him.

If the White Sox had to keep signing and trading for every starting pitcher who hit the market because they need 15 top starters to make it through a season, I think people here would see that as a problem.

Red Sox pulling back, a bit? https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2024/11/timetable-for-juan-soto-decision-speeding-up-for-red-sox-other-bidders.html

I haven't seen anything that indicates the White Sox "want" Bohm. It sounds like he was pitched to the White Sox, and Getz balked.