WestEddy

He didn't. But if the news is that guys are getting banned for "I texted your mother last night", then maybe they'll shut up with the more detailed stuff. Sure, it's a memorable evening when that one heckler is funny. You have to go through thousands of them to get to that one guy, tho.

The stage will be SRO.

Then you'll hear the dull thud as loud as he does.

And there still should be moral outrage. If you're at the game trying to have a good time with your young kids, you don't want some drunken a-hole 3 rows back bellowing BS about how he railed some players "crack whore" mother. Somebody who wants to yell that out in public should have to consider getting tossed from the park after a single warning and enjoying a ban after defiance in the face of more warnings. We're defending idiot behavior, not because it's a rite of passage, but because we thought it was funny at some point in our lives and did it, ourselves.

I think you mean that he's going to get the same treatment that anybody who offers an opinion in public considered controversial usually gets. Like, the dudes who online tortured the women of the Ghostbusters remake weren't acting on moral superiority. I'm sure a lot of the guys acting out over this aren't doing it in defense of the good names of all mothers.

The Sox probably should have done with Colson what they're doing with Wolkow right now. Bite the bullet early, fix his swing and approach early, weather the half a season to a season of poor results on the gamble that the changes took. Now, they're working with him when he's burning options, and every strikeout gets thrown around Twitter.

There are cameras pointed at every section of the ballpark. It doesn't take long at all to run facial recognition software on the crowd and get pinged.

We're all adults. We all work(ed) jobs where we had to assess departments, amass data to find inefficiencies, etc. And we all know what corporate mumbo jumbo sounds like. It's usually a red flag when somebody leads with "I do this for a living", then sprays a fog of corporate-speak to prove they're the only ones with authority to critique anything. You're fine.

Yeah, don't be giving people the finger from the passenger seat.

As somebody else said a few pages ago, "Yeah, your mother..." is something edgy to 11 year olds, and it usually takes saying it to that one kid who pops you one over it to disabuse you of the regular use of that putdown.

From Merriam Webster:

We'll get the excuse, "what do you care? the player doesn't read this." It's not about the player. It's about us. Every time somebody calls a player "hot garbage" or "trash", it's like a punch in the face. It's debasing to the person typing it and to the person reading it. And it's not as easy as telling us to not read it. We read through the posts. You don't know somebody typed that dehumanizing nonsense until you read it. And as for the "fan", the guy made a horrible mistake. It's in our culture to one-up. To take it just a little further. "My mother's a whore? You're mother ..." It's like porn addiction. Porn is shocking. But the shock wears off, so the user needs to move onto more extreme porn to reproduce the initial shock. A player's trash, then a dumpster fire, then on and on.

It's great when they draft or sign a great pitcher who goes on to dominate in the majors. We're not spitting 10 of those guys out a year, though. I'm not even sure what you're mocking, here, unless you think pitching labs, biometrics and other modern advancements are all useless fluff. Being able to maximize their draft and international classes by wringing more production out of the middling guys is helpful, too.

I agree with pretty much all of this. Sometimes, upgrading the infrastructure of a successful department and keeping it successful is the low hanging fruit.

This truly puzzles me that you're asking this. Coaches are a limited resource. 13-15 pitchers on a team, it's helpful to hit the ground running rather than starting from zero. You really don't have to pretend that any advancement in the organization is negative and unnecessary. Yes, the Sox' development procedures have been abysmal, from how they're described. They're trying to get the infrastructure up to where everyone else is. That's not bad. If you're tired of hearing it, don't listen to the interviews.

Yes it is. The example given in a previous interview was that a player would get promoted, and it would take days for his data to catch up to him, so the coaching staff would have literal days of starting from zero with this new guy until they had access to his data. Now the access is instant. One is clearly better than the other. I wouldn't think that in a "fluff" interview for general consumption the team will be revealing their proprietary models, or competitive philosophies.

Jeez. Davey Martinez did an interview a week ago where he said that results come down to the players executing, and his possible firing was thrown around the media for days. Players are temperamental. Managers and GMs have to carefully parse their words to not give the impression they're throwing the player under the bus, even when the player has cratered his value and can't pull out of it. I don't know why some people expect Getz to drag players in the press like some of the worst cranks here. Yes, Robert is probably part of the audience for the cheerful comment. I'm not sure why that's a charitable view.

My candidate for "surprise trade" is Lenyn Sosa.

I guess his relationship with Mindy McCready wasn't out, then, but it was happening. Not that anybody seems to care about it.

1) Colson's not a utility infielder. They lose some flexibility on the roster, and force Meidroth to be the UI late in the game. 2) Monty's bat isn't major league quality, right now. At least not at the point of playing every day, striking out 4 times a game, and pretending to learn anything valuable from that. We just did this with Elko. 3) Meidroth would have to move off his position for Monty to get playing time. 4) Monty most probably wouldn't replace Capra. He'd replace Noda on the roster, and he'd probably take away PAs from Sosa, as they don't seem to want to play Sosa or Meidroth at 3B, so Monty would be the SS, Meidroth to 2B, Vargas at 1B, and Rojas at 3B. Sosa would have to rotate between 2B and DH.

1) That's what happens when rookies are promoted and have to get used to big league pitching. The power will come as they develop into major leaguers. 2) There is a definite line for Vargas' production, and that is a key mechanical change he made to his stance. I suppose you can ignore what the rest of the league is talking about if that's what you need to make some vapid argument. 3) You don't know this. 4) The Padres are in the WC race. There are ebbs and flows to a season. That's a bit different from a player making a major change, seeing immediate results that are lasting for 2 solid months.

What is the sound of one hand clapping? LOL. I would imagine the difference in playing time between Rojas' time in Seattle and Chicago magnifies a few miscues on the White Sox and seriously dings his ratings. As far as the first question, you seem hung up on the acquisition of a couple of cheap OFs who have offered way more value than what they're being paid. They're one year plug-ins. The OFs they're targeting in trade and upper draft choices seem more well-rounded as hitters and defenders.

Yes, settling on players who can hold down a position, one at a time, is something that happens during a rebuild. You get stuck on these rankings. You don't need to have the best shortstop evah. You need somebody who is at least average, hopefully, better than average. That's what Meidroth is. Vargas started off there and might be better suited for 1B. If he can rake at his current .850+ since 4/23, that works. Are you actually arguing that the White Sox should cut both Teel and Quero? That would be silly.

Getz has been targeting guys with at least stable defensive reputations, and the defense is arguably better than in 2023. I get it, you're grasping at straws in an effort to be right about anything. Maybe you're arguing that "team speed" is the single most important aspect of team building, and trying to acquire players who can play defense well is folly?

Thanks for that unrelated tangent. You didn't really counter anything I said. The Sox are building on the premise of guys who make good swing decisions and get on base. Cleveland's great 90's teams didn't build around speed. They built around guys who made good swing decisions and got on base. The White Sox have a clear plan in building a team going forward, which was the point of this thread, right?