WestEddy

I've seen it as the Sox being in a group of 5 teams that are going to fight it out for the three best odds-slots in the 2026 draft. Balt, A's, Pitts, Mia and us. The Rockies are in their own group this year. The Sox are 16-21 since May 1. The A's are 10-28. This is a fundamentally different team from opening day.

05/01/25 Chicago White Sox activated 2B Chase Meidroth from the 10-day injured list.

These are the current memes: 1) The presentation of any previous reporting of organizational hires that didn't result in multiple championships is evidence that any current hires will result in 20 more years of losing. 2) The fact that TLR and JR are still alive means that any positive developments will always be reversed and defunded. 3) Any front office personnel hired in the last 40 years who remain employed with the Sox is definitive evidence that any negative argument is factually true. 4) Every injury in the Sox organization is indicative of a failed approach over 50 years to sports medicine. 5) Anecdotal evidence of failure is unimpeachable. Data showing progression are surely all lies delivered by the lapdog media to maintain access.

Getz and Bannister have both repeated said the plan is for him to eventually start.

The Luis Robert game, this will be known as.

Funny. I wrote almost the same first two sentences, then deleted.

Yeah, it seemed like that was a prerequisite of a Manny signing. Or not. When Jay said publicly that Manny should take the best offer, or something like that, he was dead to me.

I got me ten forward gears and a Georgia overdrive I'm takin' little white pills and my eyes are open wide I just walked a Jimmy and a White, I been a-walkin' everything in sight Six days on the road and I'm a-gettin sent home tonight

Dec/2018 - the Astros signed Michael Brantley for about 3/48 Feb/2019 - Machado signed with the Padres Mar/2019 - Harper signed with the Phillies The Sox fucked around all that time pretending to go after Machado and Harper. They traded for Yonder Alonso, signed Jon Jay, and had an OF of Eloy, Engel and filled RF with Ryan Cordell and Leury. They really didn't have a steady DH. Off-seasons like that seemed to have no focus, whatsoever.

Taking the El home to Edgewater at night is nicer, even a half hour earlier.

Yeah, thanks. Sorry for that.

KW was president during Hahn's tenure, and he meddled. The Burger trade is only the most obvious example. Nobody's saying KW wasn't a very good/great GM at doing what he could with what he was dealt. We don't need to build KW into a flawless Jesus GM in order to trash Getz in comparison.

Defensive much? I'm minimizing the winning as much as anybody here taking regular, huge swipes at the Sox organization right now. The 00's were a great decade to be a Sox fan. However, KW did not build up the development engine as GM, and traded everyone that wasn't nailed down, pretty much. He also contributed to the horrible culture issues that Getz is digging out from today. KW was a great, active GM. He made things happen. He also had his drawbacks in areas where Getz seems to be trying to improve upon. Not controversial. There's a large contingent of people who make the effort to post daily that the entire organization "has a history of losing, failing, being incompetent", etc, that you don't seem to have a problem with. KW contributed to that. If you can't acknowledge that without the personal digs, I'm not sure where to go with that.

Timmy seems to be talking about building an executive team. Yes, KW inherited a nice core and kept it going for over a decade. I believe the David Wilder debacle happened under KW, and when Hahn took over, there wasn't really a minor league system, player-wise, to speak of. KW was known for clubhouse spies, fought with his manager and players publicly, and contributed to a lot of the chaos during Hahn's tenure. Swapping Burger into the Marlins deal for TA7 is just a microcosm of the dysfunction that guy engendered. KW won games. Yea! He also was a big part of the horrible reputation this team is now trying to shed.

Ben Hansen is currently the Mets' Sr. Director Performance Technology and Baseball Products, so tee-hee, I guess.

Adding to the notion that older players for cheap is "the new market inefficiency", SoxMachine wrote about Tauchman and his approach to the game. Mike Tauchman is putting his experience to work, and pulling the ball with authority - Sox Machine

If he doesn't make the 26-man out of spring training, they option him to the minors, thus using the option for the year. A: Bull Durham.

Hey, that's all great. Then I don't know what your ultimate goal in regularly calling me delusional is. If you don't like the fact that somebody exists who thinks differently from you, maybe that's something you can focus on for yourself.

Wait. Are you actually saying that "this team isn't significantly better" and "Tauch and Slater won't be traded for anything of value" are not even remotely repeated ad nauseum here?

Superiority. Just like the guy who shows up to every losing game thread to declare he's laughing his fucking ass off.

I don't know why it's important for you that I accept your opinion of the White Sox. That works for you, great. This is the team I root for. I'm confused why somebody who "won't tolerate ineptitude" spends every day posting the same negative takes about a team they have no hope for.

Yeah, you are realistic in your views of individual players, which can be read as "optimistic" by people who simply trash everything, day in, day out. I think the organization has been overhauled. They draft okay, they develop pitching well, hitting development seems to have taken a step forward, they have an actual philosophy for the acquisition of pitching and offense - we won't see any major movement in the international market for a few years, yet. Yes, I'm positive. If I saw no possibility of improvement, I wouldn't spend my time watching and reading. I was a regular Bears fan. I thought the team was poorly run, and I got tired of being angry all year. So I stopped following. I don't suggest anybody do that here, it's just my outlook. If you want to call that delusional for that, have at it.

I think it's just that the risk is out of balance. If Robert's done, 4/40 is still too much to be paying him. If a newer, better, 5 WAR Robert is ready to emerge, then 4/40 is a catastrophic pittance, from his view. And if a slightly better version of 2024-2025 is what he is, then they can certainly go year-to-year with him, as there are comparable players on the market to gamble on. It would be great to have a 2-3 WAR Robert in CF for the next 4 seasons for a reasonable price. I just think the Sox and Robert can do better elsewhere.

If that's all he's worth, then Robert would probably gamble on a 1/10 deal to prove himself. He's still not even 28.