WestEddy
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We're working off a 60-102 record. I believe that they've already seen growth and development in the 2nd half that probably adds 5+ wins. (They were on a 70 win pace in the 2nd half.) Were they to get continued development from half their young core, add a couple starters to the mix, shore up the bullpen somewhat, juggle the OF and add a 1B who could hit consistently, I think that puts them in the mid-upper 70's, maybe .500, if everything clicks. So yeah, a league average team.- White Sox to hire Derek Shomon as hitting coach, Zach Bove as pitching coach per James Fegan
So then there's probably no point in getting angry at posts that aren't even aimed at you. It was weird when Hahn fell into a Royals' rut, signing a bunch of ex-Royals' players, then targeting ex-Royals' front office types, of which Getz was one. Once Getz was promoted, I didn't think him bringing over a couple of Royals' guys was weird, as they were probably dudes he trusted at the onset of his front office career. Since he's gotten settled, he's picked guys away from the Giants, Rangers, Orioles, Marlins, Angels, Brewers and D-backs. That's without even looking it up. Who are even Royals guys at this point? Gene Watson and Jin Wong? One would have as strong an argument saying Getz' hires suck because too many guys have last names that begin with W. This isn't even being addressed to you, as you've said you've not made this complaint. If you think the Bove and Shomon hires suck, rip away at them. We're all reading Caulfield's tangential Yahoo articles, and my odd internet findings for any baseball talk. But complaining about hiring the first guy away from the Royals in two years, after a lengthy interview marathon - just because he was on the Royals is silly. I mean, if they hired the guy who gave Tyler Skaggs the drugs that killed him, and put him in charge of White Sox pharmaceuticals, then yeah, that would be an incredibly dumb hire. If the White Sox hired Brad Aldrich as video coach after all his BS, yeah, fire away. Tino Martinez would have been a really bad hitting coach hire. I think that, for the goal Getz has stated and repeated, they have the right people in place. The fixes that C. Monty and Vargas grew into are one bit of evidence. Bonemer shooting into the top 100 is another. Leasure, the Smiths, Davis Martin, Vasil, more good development. I get your record-based opinion. I disagree. I'll leave it at that.- White Sox to hire Derek Shomon as hitting coach, Zach Bove as pitching coach per James Fegan
62. I'm fine. My older brother died in his sleep at 43 of a heart attack. Be well. I'm not being snarky. You asked me for words of wisdom, and that's the best I got. I have good insurance, and my part time job is going to the doctor. Take care of that s%*#. It's all you got.- White Sox to hire Derek Shomon as hitting coach, Zach Bove as pitching coach per James Fegan
Yeah, get a stress test. Heart disease starts way sooner than you think it does.- White Sox to hire Derek Shomon as hitting coach, Zach Bove as pitching coach per James Fegan
Oh, I'm up. If you remain in a relationship that brings you so much shame, you should give your safe word a workout.- White Sox to hire Derek Shomon as hitting coach, Zach Bove as pitching coach per James Fegan
Fair enough. I think we've gotten out past the period where every Hahn hire was a Royal FO castoff (of which Getz was one). Getz at least seems to be mixing it up to the point where an ex-Royals hire looks like some thought was put into it.- White Sox to hire Derek Shomon as hitting coach, Zach Bove as pitching coach per James Fegan
Cali literally calls out the people who whined about ex-Royal hires, but hey, don't let that stop you from playing the victim. I'm not sure why you'd be embarrassed to live in Chicago. It's a great city.- White Sox to hire Derek Shomon as hitting coach, Zach Bove as pitching coach per James Fegan
No, it's about the people who have beaten the senseless "ex-Royals hire" meme to death. By all means, tell us why you think the Sox have hired the wrong people. If your only argument is that they once worked for the Royals, close your eyes when the sauce gets poured on your meatball head.- White Sox to hire Derek Shomon as hitting coach, Zach Bove as pitching coach per James Fegan
Well, it is the offseason, and it's basically trickled down to about a dozen posters doing drive-bys, now, until there's any kind of movement that would give a hint to the direction this team is going to take for the next season. I am kind of curious how the MLB pitching and hitting coaches now fit into a team's greater pitching and hitting philosophy. Do Bove and Shoman just take direction from Manny & Fuller, or is it all more collaborative? Hey, they could have signed Tino Martinez, who would just choke hitters who were in slumps.- 40 Man Roster Rule 5 Decisions
FanGraphs does an analysis of teams' 40-man crunches. With the White Sox 40-man at 35, they deduce the Sox really aren't in a crunch that needs to be broken down. The deadline to set rosters for the Rule 5 draft is this coming Tuesday, November 18. American League: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2025-american-league-40-man-roster-crunch-analysis/ National League: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2025-national-league-40-man-roster-crunch-analysis/- MLBTR Offseason Outlook on White Sox
Nobody thinks the Sox should trade Teel. If other teams offer substandard returns for Quero, then keep him. I just don't think his stock is down. He'd have to do a lot to raise his value from where it is now. He can play in the bigs. He's not overmatched. He still has the ceiling of developing his power and defensive game with more reps in another system.- MLBTR Offseason Outlook on White Sox
And that's why you keep Teel. He's the better prospect. Quero's most probably at the crossroads between prospect and backup. Hang onto him giving him backup reps, and you may kill his value even further. He's shown he can hit in the bigs. Every team has the hubris to believe their development system is better than the one they're acquiring from.- MLBTR Offseason Outlook on White Sox
- Old Reliable Bruce Levine says Sox interested in 1B/DH Ryan O'Hearn, had trade talks about Robert
And O'Hearn really makes Lenyn Sosa expendable. If somebody thinks they can Ron Washington Sosa into a viable 2B, that's a valuable bat. Between Meidroth, Antonacci and others, we have 2B covered for 2026.- MLBTR Offseason Outlook on White Sox
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- Old Reliable Bruce Levine says Sox interested in 1B/DH Ryan O'Hearn, had trade talks about Robert
My eyes opened this morning. That's about as much rejoicing as I can handle in a day.- Old Reliable Bruce Levine says Sox interested in 1B/DH Ryan O'Hearn, had trade talks about Robert
In an act of desperation to get a middling bat into the lineup, they overpaid Benintendi in both money and years. He outlasted everybody from that short-lived window, and now he the only "veteran" bat who can contribute league average offense. Had they paid him normal, 2025 would have been his walk year. What would we be adding Naylor to?- Old Reliable Bruce Levine says Sox interested in 1B/DH Ryan O'Hearn, had trade talks about Robert
So, do you think the White Sox are a few players away from being competitive, or would you be sales-lying to him?- Old Reliable Bruce Levine says Sox interested in 1B/DH Ryan O'Hearn, had trade talks about Robert
That's how we ended up with Benintendi as our clean-up hitting left-fielder for 5 years. Overpaying.- Old Reliable Bruce Levine says Sox interested in 1B/DH Ryan O'Hearn, had trade talks about Robert
Trade and signing rumors are, in essence, hypotheticals. So my question is, why are you here reading about hypothetical signings?- Old Reliable Bruce Levine says Sox interested in 1B/DH Ryan O'Hearn, had trade talks about Robert
What if he did, but Naylor's agent told you to sod off, and don't call again until you have a winning team, because Naylor wants to be in the playoffs, and Seattle's going to top your offer anyway? And then, when you checked in on Pete Alonzo, his agent said the same thing? Then Framber's people, Kyle Schwarber's people and Murakami's people all told you roughly the same thing? Would you then have a Plan B beyond "Spend as much money as it takes to sign all the best players"? Because that's literally the first thought every single person has when thinking about putting together a winning team.- MLBTR Offseason Outlook on White Sox
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