WestEddy

Garfein Podcast with Gordon Wittenmeyer (of the Cincinnati Enquirer) about Robert to the Reds trade talks. Basically saying the Sox would have to send money to get their two top prospects they're asking for. https://linktr.ee/CHSNPodcasts?lt_utm_source=lt_share_link#429033152

He's further along than Fajardo, which probably also has value to the Sox. I'd think an A+-ball SS helps more than low rookie pitcher.

Liking Sean Burke.

So there. Dominic Fletcher is #7. We couldn't sign Kim if we wanted to.

Yeah, but WAR is just one tool. Like with baseball cards, you don't get to walk into a card shop, slap down the Nolan Ryan rookie card, and yell, "ha! read it and weep!! I'll take it in 100's!!" You're dealing with FO's who want to talk about bWAR, ERA, velocity, walks, etc. Cease had a down 2023. And the market collapsed.

Prelander Berroa could possibly be in the Sox' bullpen, and Blake Larson was the pitcher they took with the Mariners' Comp. Balance pick. I really don't know where you come up with this stuff.

COUNTERPOINT: If a left-handed hitting outfielder couldn't distinguish himself in 2024 to make Tauchman superfluous, they've burned their chances. Cam Booser can actually be valuable at next year's TDL. He pitches well, makes the minimum, has 3 options, and 6 full years of control. The FutureSox guys have surmised that Booser can certainly bring back better than Fajardo at the deadline.

A shortstop they expected didn't materialize on the waiver wire?

The Sox were so mediocre the last few decades, I went any weeknight I wanted on the free company tickets. Hit the Billy Goat downtown for a few before getting on the train. Catch a brat at the park. Train home. The three or four Sox hats and WS Champs t-shirts are probably the most money that Reinsdorf has gotten from me in the last 40 years.

I hate Reinsdorf. I hate his politics. I believe he's as bad as the Koch brothers, for what he supports. He's getting our money whether we like it or not. I don't think being angry about the state of sports in Chicago makes one "not a fan". I let go of the Bears long ago, and I'm happy to not be referred to as a Bears' fan. I'll pay attention if they make the playoffs. Short of that, I might check the score Sunday evening, and that's pretty much it. Watch a highlight or two. I don't patrol any BearsTalk boards, or whatnot, to let anybody who speaks well of the team know they're saps for giving the Halas family their money. This doesn't make me smarter or better than anyone else. Just illustrating how I really can't grasp the anger. Direct it towards your HOA. Or Nazis.

Ok, I'll back up to this one. The whole context was And you walked into a single sentence of me responding to Caulfield's new pet troll, touting Oakland's spending. I agree with you. The Sox and Bulls have sucked for the past decade, 15 years for the Sox. I also agree that Reinsdorf is the problem. Machado is a perfect microcosm. "Let's be cute, hear him ask for $300M, and we'll creep up to $290 in incentives, etc." I don't agree with Tray's take that if you don't go to games and buy hats, you're not a fan.

I think they're still in on Bregman.

Old frenemy alert:

Willful misrepresentation, as if right on cue. You could do a lot to pare down these 12 page back-and-forths by not pretending to be too thick to understand what the words I used mean.

1. This is a weird attack. We all have a general idea how a fan base would react to a big signing. Fisk, Seaver and Belle were acquisitions like that. Are you saying that White Sox fandom is unique from all other fanbases in the country, or even in Chicago? 2. The 12 page threads are pretty much drive-by nonsense, and me saying the same thing over and over, to moderators deliberately misinterpreting it for their own joy. Me giving a s%*# is pretty much limited to me making a statement, and then the odd comment coming at me with "oh, so your saying...." with some purposeful misinterpretation, then my good faith clarification. All I have to wait for, now, is SS2k5 to come barreling in and accusing me of "whining" just because I answered your comment in earnest. I find common ground with most people disgusted with the current state of the team. The people who blame me for not hating JR as vociferously as they do are the ones I have issue with.

You seem to view life as a binary of "trying to fool people and succeeding", and "trying to fool people and failing". Yes, there is negativity. Yes, it is sometimes irksome. My issue is with comments like yours that tell the story of a lie, all in one sentence, where you pretend there is a move that might start to assuage the anger, but your setup hints at pulling the rug as soon as it may happen.

Maybe as a fellow lecturer, you can put together a symposium on why some opinions about sports' teams are better than others.

Oh, okay. So the largest contract in MLB history, at the time, wasn't good, because it was only about winning, not winning in a happy, fulfilled way. If Reinsdorf sells, and the next owner starts signing big names, I'll await your biometric charts on happiness of the signings until I feel good about them.

I knew you could pull a negative out of the Fisk signing. Good boy!! But Reinsdorf wasn't "following the rules" and "creating his own" along the way? I really need for you to explain to me why the Belle signing was bad, bad, bad. You listed it as such. Like, we should all bow our heads in shame. And lick more boots.

What would kneeling down and licking boots be, to you? A healthy dynamic relationship? Some mods, here, accuse any positive people of that.

Now, pretend JR is the owner of the As and did the same thing. You would be crowing about how JR had to spend that money, or he'd lose the league profit-sharing, thus, making that spending bad. I couldn't give a s%*# about how much people b**** about Reinsdorf and this team. You keep trying to argue both sides of the argument. You can't say that JR never spends, except that one time when he was doing it out of spite. Oh, and that one time he did it to prove another point. Oh, and that other time he did because it was a no brainer.

No, he won't. The wheels have already been installed on the goalposts for the eruption of whining when JR inks that first $100M free agent. You just did it, there.

JR signed Albert Belle. But that was bad. He signed Adam Dunn. But that was bad. He signed Benintendi for more money and years than he was worth just to prove he wanted to win. But that was bad. He signed Grandal, the catcher the data-nerds crushed on. But that was bad. They traded for a top closer in Kimbrel. But that was bad. I'm sure you can explain why the Fisk signing was bad, too. C'mon, I know you have it in you. Can you explain to me why a big F U to other owners is bad? Aren't the Dodgers jamming it up and breaking it off in the rest of the owners with their payroll manipulations?

I don't care who goes to games, watches on TeeVee, or buys the next theme hat. I just went to my first game in 5 years this September. People vote with their feet. If the team's good, people will show up. I never understand the notion that if somebody chooses to wish-cast on the future of some minor leaguers, that automatically makes us Jerry Reinsdorf's personal sex slaves. I mean, maybe the people who bought season tickets for 30 years speak from their own personal experience.

It's funny when people root for JR to spend more money, throw more years at players just to prove he "wants to win", then when it goes bad, it becomes the example of how JR is too cheap to sign free agents.