Look at Ray Ray Run

lol yes, it's the fans fault that they expected the FO to do what they said they'd do three-two-one years ago.

Still waiting on that big market big spending team to show it's face Harold. Hard to laugh at another team who might invest in their roster when the Sox have invested nothing.

The only thing that likes scraps more than the White Sox is my dog. The White Sox will "wait out" the market and take what no one else wanted. 4D Hahn chess. I guess it's growth after rushing to EATon the Brussel Sprouts thinking other people might prioritize those over all the other fixins!

Wanted absolutely nothing to do with Javy Baez so am happy the Tigers signed him. Think he's a flawed player who will age very very poorly due to those flaws. He is the type of player who once he loses an inkling of bat speed will lose his entire offensive game. Don't think going to Comerica is that big of a deal, but I just don't think his offense ages well at all.

I'm a conforto fan but he was bad last year and has always been inconsistent. Really good when he's on though

Just bought my Madrigal jersey tonight. Let's go!!!

Ah yes, it must be this for the reason they aren't spending... not the fact that they never have spent. If anything, this would incentivize you to fight tooth and nail for that top seed to get a bye. Regardless, this is a horrible proposal and having that many teams make the playoffs in baseball is laughable given the grind that is the regular season.

As you bolded, I said you were happy the Sox didn't sign the reigning Cy Young winner because he was "too expensive." You then went on a diatribe about how I put words in your mouth. How did I put words in your mouth by repeating what you said? You're parroting ownership talking pieces to justify the organization being cheap. I have been pretty transparent, I'd LOVE the Sox to sign pretty much any of these deals but I know they won't because they operate like a little league franchise. I have been saying since before the off-season kicked off that the Sox would NOT sign any big free agents because they're not serious about spending and helping this group. I was told I was negative and blah blah... but now you're just being "realistic" while my view was negative. Fascinating. That doesn't mean I'm going to be excited when the Sox don't sign those players. So I've been living in reality the entire time while also being frustrated at the absurd ways this organization runs shop.

Ah, so I put words in your mouth by reading your actual post to mean you wouldn't sign Robbie Ray for that money. Gotcha.

I won't even say they have a high payroll because they don't. They were 15th last year in total payroll during a season in which they were "all-in." The Sox don't spend anymore, and fans are supposed to just accept it and not have any disdain towards a team raking in big profits and not reinvesting it in the product because that's just "how it is."

Cool point, hence how I said in Free Agency. Are we back to celebrating a team having the 15th highest payroll in baseball last year?

Who is asking them to be like the Yankees, Dodgers and Mets? I'm asking the Sox to stop acting like the A's and Pirates in FA's, not to start acting like the Dodgers and Yankees. Jaysus.

The f'ing Seattle Mariners just signed Robbie Ray, not the Dodgers, Yankees or Mets. The Rangers signed Marcus Semien. The Blue Jays signed Kevin Gausman. lol This place is truly something else. You said you were glad the Sox didn't give him that money. That has nothing to do with living in reality, it's a proclamation that you're happy the Sox didn't sign the reigning Cy Young winner because in your mind he was too expensive. Living in reality would be embracing the fact that the Sox have wasted more money in free agency than almost any team signing huge "bad" contracts. They've gotten a lesser return on their dollars than almost every single team in the game over the past twenty years. Yet you're still here living in reality asking them to continue to allocate their funds in that absurd manner.

Every fan who says "I'm glad we didn't get that guy, he's an overpay" is arguing exactly that which happens after every big signing on this board and twitter and beyond. Everyone who pushes the narrative that these guys are overpaid and they wouldn't give them those contracts is doing exactly that. They are promoting the idea that it's better for Jerry to keep the money than it is for him to give it to an "overpaid" player. Sox fans are the only fanbase I've ever seen that celebrates not spending money. They care more about being "smart" and fiscally responsible than having better players and winning more games.

The White Sox have Dallas Keuchel in the rotation, and they're relying on a guy who hasn't thrown more than 69 innings in a year since 2018. The White Sox never reallocate the funds they chose not to spend on high end talent on anything worth a damn. Why fans insist on saying... I'd rather the Sox reallocate the big money to smaller fish on shorter deals, despite example after example of failure doing that exact thing is truly magical. Here's an idea, the Sox could get Conforto AND Ray. "Hamstring" the team. lol The Sox are about as profitable as a professional sports franchise can be for the owner. I honestly cannot believe fans push these absurd narratives. The ownership is never actually hamstrung. They could afford to sign both with ease. Stop feeding into Jerry's complete nonsense.

Jerry being cheap does not mean fans should preach his message as the "right way" to operate a team. That basically plays into the narrative this organization has sold it's fans forever. Look at how many people on this board throw parties when top FA's sign with other teams because it's a "bad deal" or "overpay." In what world do fans want ownership to make more money so they can watch lesser talent? It's amazing to see time and time again. Also, Robbie Ray's issue was never stuff, it was command. Finding command is very much something that can maintain itself. If his command holds, his stuff is dynamite and always has been.

The reality is, giving this team the benefit of the doubt on spending money or operating as they should operate is laughable and that much is confirmed every single off-season.

Why not? Are the White Sox deducting the funds directly from your bank account? That sounds awful.

Thanks for your thoughts and feedback. I will jot it down in my journal later this evening; may even put the car up for sale.

Call the White Sox Neo, because they're dodging these bullets with grace and elegance!

Being a Sox fan is awesome! We dodged another bullet. Thank the lord!

But the Sox were going to act like a BIG MARKET team and spend big money this off-season!!!

And the White Sox are a good baseball team. That doesn't mean I wouldn't trade my Camry in for a Ferrari despite the depreciation and the added "risks" and repair costs. I traded in my Civic for a MachE. Civic was a great car, MachE is still an upgrade.

Nick Madrigal had a higher ISO last year than: Adam Frazier Leury Garcia Jeff McNeil DJ Lamaheiu Whit Merrifield Just to name a few. This is why using phrases like "in the history of baseball" are hyperbolic nonsense.

Didn't really want Scherzer, but I do find it funny that White Sox fans have reached peak battered wife syndrome; they now make fun of other teams who do spend money. Oh, nice Ferrari loser! I have a Camry, and that has the lowest depreciation rate of any car on the market. Enjoy losing your cars value the moment you drive it out of the lot, clown!