Look at Ray Ray Run

I like to keep track of these things in the off-season. So far we have: 1 - Best SHAPE of his life and finally taking fitness serious report!! - Carlos Rodon 1 - He reworked the complete way he pitches and will suddenly be elite because he cares (as if other players don't) - Dylan Cease 5 - The new coach is going to change the success of all these players tenfold even though the game only values coaches at about 1 million per year!!! - Every White Sox Pitcher who wasn't already good It does not mean those things aren't true, but history does not support these claims on a grand predictive scale but that doesn't mean it's not possible progression and improvement ensues. Most guys are what they are after a certain period of time and the Giolito's are the exception to the rule, not the expected outcome. A lifetime of baseball habits are tough to break in one off-season of training.

I'd call a 5% decline in revenue share towards labor to be a massive spending cut in any industry, especially a 10+ billion dollar industry, Just my opinion. That's between a $500,000-$720,000 pay cut per player vs expected income since 2014 which is down between 12 and 16.5%. I'll let you two carry this on though.

If this is your goal then you need to add a salary cap and a salary floor, not more teams to the playoffs. Players need to get over the salary cap nonsense and add a revenue share % for salaries like all other sports. Owners are just fucking them now and it's not going to get better.

MLB revenue is up from 7.86 billion im 2014 to 10.37 billion 2019. This means that player salaries are down from 43.8% of the pie to 38.5% of the pie based on the numbers you're providing so @Jack Parkman is 100% correct. MLB players are likely getting the smallest share of revenue of the three major sports despite not having a salary cap and it's 100% due to owner collusion.

Lol wut? I made some posts about how the Sox had no shot in signing Bauer because they refuse to spend at that level and you called me a negative dickhead and said I couldn't proclaim something until it didn't happen. Bauer sign somewhere and I missed it? or you're just being a negative poster before something has happened like you called me an "asshole" for. I guess only you can be negative before shit happens.

This you?

Oh, and fck NotCishek, PortillosBlows, and AlsBeefsShouldNotHaveCheese for all their stupid tweets which were obviously made up - not breaking news - and their constant "the sox are in on everyone" when the Sox literally didn't even talk about these players internally. Now EOM.

I'm just here to say: Fck this team. Fck Jerry Reinsdorf. Fck Kenny Williams and "the money will be spent." Fck Rick Hahn and the "We're saving our money so we can be aggressive when the window opens." Fck Bob Nightengale and the "Sox spent 54 million on Hendriks in 2021" when they spent 11 million because 13 million was too steep for their budget this year. Fck trading for one year of Lance Lynn and proclaiming you were "all-in" while running a payroll lower than last year. Fck Adam Eaton and his stupid face that I have to look at because the Sox are so cheap. Fck the Sox fans who have laughed the Blue Jays for "overpaying" because they actually want to win and supplement their young core and try to win a championship. Fck the Sox who likely gave Tony LaRussa 20-30% of the salary that they gave their highest paid off-season acquisition despite him being a bumbling, fumbling, stupid drunk. Fck this off-season that I saw coming from a mile away. And thank god I cancelled my season tickets when they signed LaRussa because this team doesn't deserve a single dollar of my money while they spit in fans faces for 5 years telling them when the time came, the pocket book would be open. Oh, and fck their fake pursuit of Machado which couldn't be anymore obvious now that 11 million dollars has destroyed their budget. EOM

Pal, even i think you're overly argumentative. Think about that for a second.

Rage quit? I just dont enjoy posting places where people collectively gang up and get personal against people, then get proven wrong and mods delete threads all the while allowing the activity that deserved to be called out. I still read, just not much interest in posting. Im not a fan of special treatment by and for moderators on forums, but it's their board so obviously they're free to do as they please. Thanks for your concern, maybe you can tell me how little I know about basketball some more.

This forum is a laughable. @Tonybumps old posts to shame a poster and all the mods circle jerk him and pat his back. Tony always attacking posters and getting high fives from his butt buddies. I bump old posts where everyone calls me an iidiot when they ended up being wrong again (who knew?) while I dont respond with name calling and the mods delete the thread and hide it. This after a poster pointlessly attacked me and I respond and a mod tells me to stop responding lol. Enjoy the circle Jerk forum fellas.

Good call. In the future ill be sure to check with you first before analyzing basketball after your great analysis in this thread. Hopefully you've revised how you evaluate NBA talent in the last year+.

Might want to find some more reputable NBA boards if the ones you follow were filled with fans of the bulls and wcj future.

Youre welcome for the free education following all the snide remarks about how ignorant my thoughts were.

Ron, I remember people absolutely trashing me on this. Some told me I knew nothing about basketball yada yada. Even more were telling me the bulls had 4 good nba players and a bright future and I was hating on Wendell Carter. The bulls are complete trash and desperately need 1-1 this year but won't end up with it i don't think. Good on you owning it. Sexton is gonna be a star. What a last 30ish games from him. Kid was awesome at Bama and young with a bad team but his progress has been amazing to watch. Huge 4th tonight vs the hawks. This is also gonna be a bold prediction but he beat the best team in the east tonight.

For all that seem to think cohen won't care about losing money. Found this excerpt from Black Edge and found it interesting. Cohen is competitive and still wants to make money. Cohen also obviously a huge pos as black edge lays out well.

Stop escalating? Lol the guy posts to me out of left field and me responding is the problem. Got it pal. I'll make your job easier as this isn't enjoyable for me with a barrage of trolls that apparently I should never respond to; as if I don't ignore 90% of them. Have a good holiday and best of luck.

Oh really? I had no idea. ? Lets just say I'm tall enough for your implied short joke to merely make you look like a d and not offend me in the process. Continue on there champ. How old are you? 12?

Might be the weirdest question I've ever been asked online. I'm married and not interested. Sorry buddy.

It literally shows how every team did in every year. Every dot on that chart is one team, their payroll and their results from a single year. There are no averages there. Not sure why you continue to say otherwise.

Might want to learn how to do something basic, like quoting a post, before calling into question said posters intelligence.

Lets relax on the sustained success stuff until we actually sustain success for at least two years. You're getting a little ahead of yourself.

No data has been manipulated; I have no idea what you're talking about. Have a nice night, I'm out. These aren't averages; they are countless data points that show a curve which clearly indicates that more money spent is directly correlated to more winning.

How is it misleading to present information that very much shows that the more money you spend, the more wins you are likely to have. The low payroll teams that do well are the exception to the rule, they are not the rule in itself. They are lauded because they "overcome" the deficit they are put in at the beginning of the year. The fact is, in baseball, if you spend more money, you are more likely to win. There's really no refuting that. Outliers exist in all walks of life; in every statistical set that exists. Just because Mike Trout was drafted with the 25th pick in the draft doesn't mean teams should trade the #1 overall pick every year for the 25th pick. Spending money puts you in a better position to succeed; just as drafting #1 puts you in a better position than drafting #25.

How is data false? That is a graph of payrolls and wins. There is nothing nebulous about that data. "Try thinking on your own" literally just means ignore evidence, believe what you want. I came to my conclusions based on my thoughts, plus substantiated evidence. That's how positions are justified in my world. I can't just have opinions without areas of support.