Look at Ray Ray Run

He's owed 81 million over the next four years and his projections are: 3.8 3.2 2.6 2.2 11.8 WAR projected and that assumes good health. If he stays healthy, he's worth it, but from 2015-2019 Darvish has only thrown 504 innings; a little more than 100 innings a year. If he does anywhere near that number, he's worth 1/2 his 11.8 WAR projection and his contract is well underwater. Steamer is pretty aggressive with his projection given that he has not reach his projected WAR since 2013.

I didnt understand Rosenthal's point last night. He said the sox would be in on Cole but they dont want to bid against the Yankees and Angels. Claimed if boras called and said if you offer 280 we'll sign now, the sox would do it. Well, if he doesnt get to 280 why wouldnt Boras make that call? That excuse sounds like BS. Willing to go to 280 but not even gonna waste their time bidding.

Yeah, that's a real nice lineup from top to bottom. Big power, great speed.

Embarrassing for the Cubs. If the Sox close their window early because of a couple bad FA contracts that'll be horrible as well.

Assuming Vaughn pans out, and that's no guarantee obviously but feels likely, the lineup with Ozuna is rake city. 1. TA 2. Yoan 3. Robert 4. Eloy 5. Abreu 6. Yaz 7. Ozuna 8. Vaughn 9. Madrigal Jaysus

Every bit as bad as the Tatis trade; similar scenario too - neither had gotten into any game action prior to the trade. Although, at least Fields was good for the Dodgers as long as it wasn't the postseason.

And he traded Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields. Even the best make mistakes in the trade world.

Not all 4 even need to pan out for those to be solid trades.

The dinky trades? I think getting Gio, reylo, dunning, Eloy, cease, Kopech and moncada out of three players is pretty good. Lost tatis and lost Samardzija.

Hahns won more than hes lost in the trade market, imo.

So apparently, Passen was pissed about a Jeff Pasan account that got 5k+ likes on a fake "Cole to the Yankees" report. I was hoping it was Joff as well lol

Strikes do not = Command.

Reportedly, that 5/200 offer was what they floated at Bryce last off-season. Rendon is better than Bryce, and supposedly (hard to say for sure with baseball rumors) the Dodgers are prepared to offer Rendon something similar. Trout got the 37.16 over 12 years. By reducing the contract to 5, I think Rendon will set an AAV record but we'll have to see. I'd be shocked if he signed a deal longer than 5 years - max 6. He has been pretty adamant that he has no desire of playing baseball into his late 30's. Edit: Also, people cite the Nationals offers frequently - did so with Bryce as well. That offer supposedly had like 50 million deferred - similar to the offer they made to Bryce. Those figures aren't a real great representation of what was offered. 7/210 with 0 deferred money is worth a lot more than 7/210 with 50 million deferred paid out 10 years from now over a 5 year window etc etc.

I wanted to like this post, but you have a nice round 420 points so I don't want to change that. Agree wholeheartedly. Excited to see Madrigal, and think he's going to be a very enjoyable player to watch for years to come. Enjoyed watching him at Oregon State.

According to the source, Fiers, the cheating started in 2017. In 2014/15/16 Springer had a wRC+ of about 128. If you take out Mookie's incredible 185 year, over the other 5 years of Mookies career his wRC+ is 128.

Honestly think Rendon is going to get a 5/200 type contract. Springer would cost a fraction of that - probably similar years, but significantly less in AAV. 5/150ish.

Would love to have Springer. Think between the two of them, with the expected prices, I'd rather have Springer because he won't demand the years (he'll be 31) and I think Springer's bat projects better going forward than Mookies. I'd run Daniel Palka out there every game this year if you guaranteed me they'd sign Springer next off-season.

Yeah, I'm furious. That's why I am following you thread to thread quoting your posts solely for the purpose of attacking you. Oh wait... Pal, the day I get mad over an internet discussion will be the day I call it quits.

Sox should sign Springer and Betts next off-season. DISCUSS!

Yes, it's always good to have in depth discussions about things that will never happen. Sox should sign: Rendon, Stras, Cole, and trade for Mookie. Discuss!

Try posting to the post and not the poster, bud. Give it a go, and maybe you won't embarrass yourself calling someone an idiot and telling them to check their math when you apparently can't read. If our opinions turning out wrong meant we should stop posting them, you would have been knocked out of conversations eons ago. Nothing funnier than when a guy attacks someone, is 100% wrong and instead of apologizing and moving on they double down and continue to ridicule said poster. Internet is a great place.

So the Phillies were willing to go into the luxury tax to sign Rendon, but they settled for Wheeler instead of Cole/Strasberg? Yeah, I'll go ahead and call BS on this one.

Cool; this isn't basketball. Mike Trout has made one post-season appearance in his career.

So you are trading pieces of the future to be more competitive next year? That is exactly what the White Sox used to do, and it's exactly what got them in this predicament in the first place... and it's the exact thing you've been incredible critical of (as have most all fans). Minds aren't changing; pointless to continue going back and forth. Have a nice weekend.

At about 5-8 times the cost.