Look at Ray Ray Run

So you think that the agent came back and said, you have the highest offer but for you to get Wheeler you need to actually spend even more? How do you think an organization would view that phone call?

You should evaluate almost everyone's (pitchers) career based on bWAR; fWAR is better for projections, bWAR is better for evaluating actual results. All that matters for a career is actual results, not projectable outcomes.

So they need to offer a Rangers to A-Rod contract to make you happy? People blaming the organization for this have lost their mind. To scare everyone away? No, to make sure Wheeler knew they were serious. This place is comical sometimes; "OFFER THE MOST MONEY." They do... "WHY DIDN'T YOU OFFER MORE?!!" It's a joke.

Why are you so obsessed with Rick Hahn selling his team as a destination? Is he supposed to get up and say, "we hope we can sign some guys, but we're nervous that people don't want to play here." A high ranking executive officer thinks highly of his organization; what lunacy!

Why? Again with this E-Bay, buy-it-now, auction stuff. The Sox came out with a big offer, yet people are still critical and said it should have been bigger? No one presents their absolute top offer in any negotiation at the start; that would be terrible negotiating.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz So people are stupid for trusting the report on why Wheeler made the decision, and you're a genius for drawing your own conclusions that insinuate the White Sox are cheap failures again. Got it.

Yeah, it's honestly just being miserable and angry and hate filled regardless and for no reason. They call the Sox incompetent for not offering the most. Then they offer the most and they're incompetent for not wastefully offering more than the "most." If the guy doesn't want to come play for you when you offer the most money, then F him and move on.

They should function like a well run organization; not like a desperate teenage girl seeking attention in anyway possible. If an agent calls and says we have 118 on the table, can you beat it.. they'd be absolutely insane and dumb to say "140!"

What?

You have people blaming the Sox for not just giving Wheeler an actual 20 million compared to every other offer solely because that's what his wife wants; nothing to do with his production or talent.

Again, you pay tax based on the city you are playing in for that game; not based on where you live/play full time. The calculation is much more advanced than this and would vary year to year. You can bet that taxes do not wipe out the difference and it's certainly not the way you are calculating it.

So what should they have done Dick? Offer 20 million more than everyone else because the guys wife wants you to? The White Sox offered the most money in FA; that is the ONLY thing a team can control that truly matters. Period, end of story. The Sox were rightfully laughed at for how they managed Machado - you can't laugh at them here too Dick.

LOL everyone laughs at the Sox left and right when they put effort into their presentations and signing friends and family... everyone says, JUST OFFER THE MOST MONEY! Now they do that, and people are mad at the Sox for not selling themselves well enough and not being creative enough. Enough. They offered the most. They lost out. It's not the teams fault and blaming them is just being angry to be angry. Good on the Sox for FINALLY offering the most money when they said they would. That should be the takeaway here. The Sox shouldn't pay 10 million extra just because of some guys wife; jfc.

I mean, the guy offered the most money. That's all you can do. For ONCE the White Sox implied they would not be outbid on a player and they actually weren't. Despite missing out, that really is a step in the right direction and a positive takeaway from this. It leads to more optimism.

I mean, the guy likes the NL, he's familiar with the division and it's close to his family. The union wants guys taking the biggest offer, but I don't think this was an anti-White Sox thing. If the Reds offered 118 and the Sox 120 I doubt he picks the Reds but who knows.

Honestly feel bad for Rick kind of. Guy sees these rumors circulating about their offer of 5/110 not being good enough, panics and probably begged Jerry for 10 million more. "IT'LL GET IT DONE AND WE'LL REDEEM OURSELVES JERRY! FANS WILL REJOICE." Jerry, for the first time in Rick's life says "you know what Rick, sure, let's do it. They want 120? Give them 120." Rick leaves the room giddy calls the agent and tells him. They realize it's the high bid. News breaks Phillies sign him for less. Rick cries; Jerry laughs; Kenny shits himself in anger.

Yeah, Rick got creative with the wrong FA lol

Emotional? I thought it sucked when I thought they got outbid; now I'm fine with it and it's just frustrating. As more information comes in, sometimes people might change their mind.

Rosenthal isn't a mouthpiece for the Sox. Rosenthal wouldn't care about deferred money or anything not guaranteed.

What are you rambling about?

LOL they offered the most money. Move on.

Yeah, Wheeler is a moron and if it was 5-10 million the union will not be thrilled.

If that was ANYONE but Rosenthal I would say BS. Since it's Kenny, it's safe to say it's a fact.

Huh? Impossible to blame the front office if they offered the most money. This has to be very demoralizing to Hahn and Co.

It's a 1 1/2 hour flight from Chicago to Baltimore/DC/NY lol. His wife would rather live in Philly than Chicago? Weird stuff.