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Why would I ever want any poster banned? As much as your thoughts are out there, at least it's another perspective different than mine and I have value in that. 40 million for avi. Yeesh.

Paying him 40 million is still a complete disaster. I'm not sure what you dont understand about will myers but he's bad at baseball in case you were wondering. You think avisail Garcia is going to sign for anywhere near 40 million this off season? My goodness. He'll be lucky to get 8 million.

Can you imagine how scary a rotation of Cole, Kope, Gio and cease would be. My lord the stuff in that rotation would be historically good. Gio would be the soft tosser in the group lol. Maybe lopez figures it out.

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5 WAR over 3 years is not good and is below league average.

Idk, his career ERA and FIP are super close so fWAR a better predictor than bWAR imp.

4.0 1.7 3.5 Those are Quintana's fWAR over the past three years. That ranks 24th in all of baseball. The fact that you think that is similar to Nova, and that you believe they'll just let him go (as do others in this thread) is truly baffling.

The cubs are not signing cole. They are trying to cut salary but you think they're going to give a picture 30+ million a year?

You can go over the cap to resign your own players or veteran minimums. You can't just spend on non-vet minimum players.

Keep moving those goal posts.

The overwhelming negativity is just awful on this board sometimes. No hard feelings either way - passion about something causes passionate conversations and positions. Nothing wrong with either opinion, I just find the narrative lazy personally but I understand why people are down in general.

Sure but they havent been winning. When they competed every year they spent money. It's the entertainment industry. You distribute employee pay based on revenue. To answer the thread, I'll say Wheeler is the first player signed. Also, obviously I'd love an owner who didnt care at all about budgets.

Jerry pays a guy who violates his contract ending his career the full value of his contract. Crickets. Jerry sells a second round pick where his front office doesnt like any available players. "He's cheap!" The first total was more than the second too. Edit: jay got 3 million, so it was .5 less.

They determined that the money was more valuable at a later date then using it on a player they did not value highly. Not sure what you dont understand. I guess every nba team is cheap.

Yes I'm nick friedel because I pointed out that the White Sox factually spent a higher percentage of revenue on payroll than any team in baseball for an extended period of time... while you parrot your ignorant "Jerry is cheap" sentiment. Don't let facts get in the way of your narrative though.

The payroll should be based on revenues, not the city you exist in.

Lol this is literally the quote and article that balka derived his absurd take from. That's the exact quote...

I posted the literal quote. Spin that nonsense however you want, but the bulls liked 5 players and they were not there so they moved the pick to obtain capital to use later on something they actually valued. Which NBA teams do all the time.

So they amnesty boozer and somehow that's spun to be negative thing showing their cheap. My lord Scared to go over the tax? Who could they have acquired to put them over the cap that they didnt? I'll wait. Dont want to take this conversation too off topic but how anyone can argue that a guy who spent the highest percentage of revenue on payroll in baseball for almost a 20 year window is cheap? Its laughable.

Here's the exact quote. “We had our board up there, and we were sitting there with Jerry and Mike (Reinsdorf) and we said, ‘Here’s five players in the second round that we really value,'” Paxson said in an interview on the Mully and Hanley Show on 670 The Score. “And when we got to that pick, those five players were gone. And you know, sometimes when you’re dealing in a situation with where you are looking ahead to the future, you have to build up some equity with decisions that you make. You look back to when we did start this rebuild, the first rebuild in 2003, one of the things Jerry did a year into the rebuild was let us use $3 million to buy the Phoenix pick where we got Luol Deng. And so at that point, Jerry at the time stepped up.”

Second round picks are traded all the time for cash considerations.

Great, the Bulls were at the cap for 3 decades and they went over it when they were winning. He's been very vocal that they will not go over the cap for a losing team. What's wrong with that? The Bulls were at a roster bind and didnt want the pick. Teams give away their second round picks almost every single year. Please link me to your quoted statement about building equity by not drafting a guy in the second round who wouldnt even have a guaranteed contract.

The Braves won their division last year, how weren't they supposed to be competitive This year? The Ray's were in the playoff hunt last year. The Twins were always a year ahead of us in terms of their rebuild. How were those teams not supposed to be competitive?

How is he cheap with the Bulls? Theres a cap and the Bulls offered max contracts to every major free agent they could in the past two decades. He paid Jay Williams his salary after he got into a bike accident that was specifically noted in his contract as a voidable offense. Then Jay William's had the nerve years later to criticize the guy.

Literally a piece yesterday written stating they'll pick it up but maybe they'll trade him if they don't want to keep him. Quintana is coming off a horrible september and still put up 3.5 fWAR.