Look at Ray Ray Run

Its wrong because that's just not how baseball drafts work for the vast majority of MLB teams. Teams dont find 1-2 good players every year. If they did, every team would be good and filled with home grown talent. Youd be able to build an entire team nearly every 5 years from just drafting and youd never have to rebuild.

Idk what you guys are confused by. Drafting is all about comps and projection. When you do things that no one has ever done you are taking a shot and deserve credit. You think madrigal sucks despite a 172 wRC+ and it's because you're doing what everyone does - pigeon holing him because of his size. Yet you're saying they deserve no credit for not doing that. Kind of odd.

Not sure what you're saying come on too. People don't draft 5'6 2nd baseman in the top 5. You're going against the typical mold and taking a chance on a kid. Madrigal was the best position player in the draft for my money, but he didn't get drafted that way.

Say what? What is relatively good? These numbers are certainly outdated. I have the values of every pick somewhere - let me find it. 20% of 4th round picks are not relatively good unless relatively good is maybe reaching the big leagues one day.

But it's wrong.

This would make sense if Theo wasnt overspending slot heavily every year to get a top 10 talent at the end of the first round - whoever fell, theo would gobble them up and pay the penalty. The sox arent drafting lance Broadway's anymore. Theyve made significant progress with their draft strategy.

Not giving a guy credit for drafting a 5'6 2nd baseman with the 4th pick in the draft is nuts. Easy to call him the BPA as an outsider. Much harder to pull the trigger on a kid that fit absolutely zero molds of success. He went out on the limb there. Vaughn wasnt easy either as a RR under 6 foot 1st baseman.

And one has already reached the big leagues and the other two died. Firing a scouting director after three years would be like bringing in a new college coach and then firing him before any of his own recruits reach their junior year.

Hostetler has had the job for 3 years and you're asking where his successes are when the average draftee takes like 4 years just to reach the big leagues. Come on Jack. And then you give him no credit for the successes before he got the title yet he was second in command for those.

The Cubs would have had a better chance at winning a World Series then next 5 years than they have now after the trade. I'll never understand why people give a closer who almost blew the World Seried but was bailed out the credit for winning a world series. A freaking closer. Theres no scenario in baseball where 1 WAR today is worth more than 20+ WAR over the next 5 seasons in my opinion.

Burger, idk. Literally impossible to say. Process was sound - great metrics and he was a better defender then guys here give him credit for. Track man data was very good. Burdi was a bad pick. Way too much risk with relievers.

Theo has nothing to show for literally 1/2 his MLB drafs in his career. Don't believe me? Go take a look. Even when he was unreal in Boston he had drafts where NO ONE contributed - same with the cubs now. That's how the draft is in baseball. A lot of swings and a lot of misses. When you hit, you just have to make it count.

Cool. They could have acquired another closer for less? Or offered less? People act like Chapman was unhittable or that the Cubs couldnt have given up someone else. It's just wrong. The cubs gave up a guy every bit as good as Tatis and they got like 30 innings from a closer in return. It was an awful trade.

Yeah, he has a 172! wRC+ at AA - he's 72% better than average and people are being critical. I honestly can't believe it.

Yeah, many people on this sites expectations for drafts and first round picks outside of the top 5 are absurdly high for baseball.

One guy has already reached the big leagues as a #10 pick and the other two had bad injuries. Burdi was a reach as a reliever sure.. Your guys expectations for the 14th pick in the draft are absurd. Anything after 5 is a complete crap shoot. Madrigal has the best k-bb rate in minor league baseball by 2 times! He is two times better than the next best. That's unreal. Hes also been a gold glove caliber 2nd baseman. Ripping hostetler for drafting madrigal is a laughably bad take.

Eh competition at the top is good for business.

Maybe 20 years ago. Lack of contact may slow development slightly now but it is WAY less a reason for prospects to fail than it used to be. See guys like Joey Gallo who are much more extreme as an example. Or george springer. Or kris bryant. All huge contact issues as prospects who destroyed baseballs. All adjusted because they were elite athletes and have excelled.

Just as an FYI, scouts in nature have to be stubborn. If they shift there thoughts and opinions too often it takes away their credibility in evaluation and makes them too reactionary. I get it, FG just doesnt nees to be that way since they arent advising a team on anything

If you're too talented for your level at 21 years old and that level is AAA how in the shit does that logic lead someone to conclude that they won't be good in the big leagues? Amazing circular logic by a very intelligent baseball man.

This is horrible logic imo. It's lazy logic from a very intelligent person in the industry. Scouts are stubborn. FG was lower on Robert and they will hold firm on this grade. It's really that simple. I can point to many low k guys that struggled as well. This isnt the 1980's. Why do they comp him to Brinson and not George Springer? I can answer that... because it doesnt fit their narrative. He's probably more similar to Springer than he is brinson.

No chance. They traded like 20+ WAR for 1.5 WAR and the I'll take it to the grave that Chapman is NOT why the Cubs won.

Love to see Gladney raking. He's still so young, even for a high school pick. His 46-4 k/bb will eventually have to get better but at least his contact is really hard when he makes it.

It was a mistake for the Braves to call up a 4-5 WAR player? What? We're they supposed to keep him down until he was 23 just for fun? Anyone who thinks calling up Acuna was a mistake despite already knowing the results has a very interesting take on baseball and the concept of a career. The guy was ready and unreal from day 1. Of course he should have been called up.

No way they pull him from the rotation in a pennant race. Youd have strasberg drama all over again. You limit him early. Skip him everytime you can and just have him throw on those days. Gradually work up the workload as the season goes on. He may not pitch in a game every week but he'll be throwing and maintaining conditioning in a controlled setting which allows him to work on his control and stuff still, while limiting the strenuous innings of mlb baseball. As for high level pitchers - the numbers are much better for older pitchers today than they were a decade ago. For whatever reason, with the increase in run scoring, older pitchers have improved significantly while younger pitchers have struggled much more. 25-29 is still king though and signing a pitcher into his mid 30's is rarely a good idea... but sometimes you get Max Scherzer.