Look at Ray Ray Run

Hes played 34 games and grades out -2 DRS. That averages out to -10 DRS over the course of a season which is bad and far from playing the position "quite well."

Right, yet Tatis grades out poorly there and he wasnt on the Padres when they signed Machado so.... it's almost like once he got paid, his sole purpose of "showing" he can still play SS went away

Machado changed positions twice for two reasons: 1. Playing time. He was "blocked" by JJ Hardy as a kid and his path to professional baseball at a young age was switching to third base. 2. He switched back to SS to maximize his worth because SS's make more money. He was bad at SS and now he's back at the position he's elite at because he got paid. Machado is an example of what I have said are the reasons players change. Clearly, Machado got paid and wasnt demanding he played SS anymore. Why? Because he wanted to play SS, in his head, thinking it would garner him a bigger payday.

Why would you move the better defender who also happens to be a player already on the team for an outsider? You can only imagine what I'd say? Moncada was a bad second baseman. Moving him away from that position in hope of maximizing his defensive talents elsewhere made sense. Moving him from a position in which he's excelled with limited professional reps before this year is lunacy. There's always a reason to try something new when things aren't working. There's really no point in trying something new when what you're doing already has great results.

Except you literally take away about 30% of his skill set and value by moving him to right field.

All it takes is time and practice. My goodness. I played CF 99% of my life. I hated right field. Could I play it? Sure. Did I enjoy it or feel as comfortable when I did? Absolutely not. The majority of players do not like changing positions after spending their lives and careers mastering one. There's a reason A-Rod moved to third when he signed with the Yankees and it wasn't because Jeter was a better defender. You see this all the time in baseball. Guys do not like changing from their comfort zones. It its not out if necessity for staying in the league and maximizing playing time, 99% of players would tell you they like knowing where they'll play everyday and they like knowing where they'll bat.

Yoan Moncada grades out as the 6th best defensive 3rd baseman in the MLB this year. Why the heck would the White Sox move a guy who is performing that well at that position in his first big league year there? It's an absurd proposal.

Madrigal could honestly probably play short but his arm would be below. He'd be better than Eckstein over there though. He was a hell of a defensive SS before the best defensive SS in college joined his team.

Yeah, and the Sox just moved Moncada and hes been one of the best 3rd baseman in baseball. Do you think the Nats were going to move Rendon again after he proved his worth at 3rd? Do you know what finite means because bases on this post I'm not sure you do.

Cool.

At the time, Madrigal had not proven anything in professional baseball. Machado could play third and Moncada would move back to 2nd. Or Machado could play SS, and Tim could play the OF. Rendon can not play SS. Over the past year, things have changed too. Players have gotten hurt (pitchers mostly) and position players have taken big steps forward (Madrigal, Tim and Yoan).

If you have proof to the contrary they'll say it's fake. Theres honestly no point in arguing. They have their predisposed beliefs and nothing will change that.

Yes, the only way signing rendon could be even remotely feasible is if they traded Madrigal. At that point, your overcomplicating things though. Just acquire the pitchers/RF with the money you have saved by using a young core of position talent.

Rendon was literally a natural second baseman most of his college and pro career until the Nats moved him. The Sox don't need an infielder though so this is a pointless discussion.

When you have a finite number of resources, spending a large % of them on a position that is already occupied by your best player is a waste as you will never maximize your return. The Sox have holes and weaknesses they need to fill. Those holes cost money to fill. When you spend money filling a hole that doesnt exist, you are not allocating your finite resources efficiently and effectively. The Sox would be better off signing 2 pitchers for what it would cost to sign Rendon. The White Sox do not need an infielder, therefore they shouldnt sign the most expensive one on the market. This really isnt difficult to understand. You invest in areas of opportunity, not the other way around.

3rd base; it was the position he played in Cuba and one he said he felt very comfortable with this year. That is obvious by his results.

You said they don't negotiate. It was wrong. Move on.

Joc Pederson is not a star by any means and is no where near the best player on the team. I enjoy listening to you tell me that players dont care about their positions and comfort. You play a player at the position that maximizes his performance and value. The vast majority of players don't like moving around everyday and not having a position.

Javy Baez had NO business playing anywhere but SS, since that's where he's best and most impactful. Joe Maddon is an absolute dunce regarding his lineups and positioning and has taken serious heat for it.

Nope, Sox DO NOT negotiate with Boras clients. That's what moan told us.

Turner has played third since he got there. They are not moving Seager. Bellinger went on record with a preference for the outfield. The dodgers give him "breathers" at 1st base now but they primarily play him where he wants to play and where he feels most comfortable. The dodgers also had 13 outfielders last year which made that more difficult but they opened that spot up now. 99% of players care about their position and their comfort matters. Moncada has been very good at 3rd. He wasnt good at 2nd. He should be a 3rd baseman. Theres no reason he should have to be versatile. None what so ever.

Clueless? You're the guy telling us the Sox NEVER do business with Boras clients when they drafted and signed one, and they sat down for 1-1 meetings last season discussing a 250+ million dollar contract for one of his clients. Sounds to me like another factually wrong statement by you. As I said though, keep moving those goal posts.

The Sox have no need for an infielder and would be better off spending those funds on areas of opportunity. I have no interest in moving Moncada again, and I am a firm believer in madrigal so I wouldn't even want Yoan at 2nd. He would have to move to the OF which would be absurd given how well he's played 3rd this year.

Amazing they signed Rodon since they refuse to do business with Boras. Facts get in the way of your narrative sometimes.

What does this mean? So the astros move Altuve, Springer, Bregman and Correa? No. They acquire versatile middle tier players to cover a lot of the diamond and move around, sure, but they dont move their stars. They moved Bregman to third from short but he's not playing the outfield and second. The Cubs are the only dumb ass team on earth making their stars/best players play out of position consistently and they don't enjoy it. Players like consistency. Elite players don't have much interest in switching positions everyday. That actually impacts a player.