Look at Ray Ray Run

I dont think you know what the term competitive means in a contract sense. They offered the second most guaranteed money and had escalators to give him the most. That is by definition a competitive offer. The padres off was "better" but it wasnt some well over market offer. Unless you think only one team makes competitive offers to free agents (the team that signs the player) then you're off base here.

Fair enough. I know it would be unprecedented but if this team is good and has good success together, I'd bet on the sox retaing more than less.

Machado wasnt their player and they had the second highest bid on the table. It wasn't exactly a non-competitive offer either.

Says who? Seriously. The Angels could afford trout with their shit contracts around him but the sox cant keep a star?

I think it would be disappointing that a team worth 1.2 billion dollars couldnt retain the best player on the planet? The sox can afford to keep everyone. Stop accepting their nonsensical spin.

If the White Sox offer him the most money - as is always the case with stars and free agency - then they can retain him. The only way the Sox would lose him is if they didn't pay the most.

They used the kids as an excuse stating they had to resign all of them when their contracts expired which was why that couldn't commit the two extra years to Manny. Them blaming the kids was the most outrageous part about that entire process imo.

EXACTLY! That was their entire excuse for not going to 300 and 10 years was they had to give big money to their home grown stars, and yet... here we are... making an excuse and rationalization for not paying those guys what their worth now too. Amazing really.

This is complete and utter team-speak nonsense and BS. This is an excuse to underpay a guy for an additional year because the organization is cheap. Do you think the Yankees or Red Sox think about this stuff if a player is ready? No because if the player is that good they can just resign him.

Sure, but preventing a kid from coming up when he's ready because you want to get cheap 7 years from now for one year is the exact same BS that people rip this organization for. Stop calling it SMART and start holding the organization accountable for spending money. If Robert is a star they already get to exploit his pay for 7 YEARS and pay him less than he's worth.. why should we excuse them from calling him up just so they can pay him under market value one extra year? How about we expect the Sox to pay a guy what he's worth and resign him when his contract is up?

What does being Cuban have to do with his baseball talents? Is there something about being Cuban that limits him? If his floor is Mike Cameron (which I don't disagree on) then they should have zero qualms about signing him. Cameron had 60 career WAR. I think everyone is misunderstanding my point... why do they have to exploit Roberts service time to have him under friendly control one extra year? They can just resign him when he becomes a free agent; it's not as if the Sox have to let him go after his 7 years. They aren't some poor Rays like organization. They can afford to keep their own.

Why does it have to be team friendly. If he's a superstar they should sign him for superstar dollars. They're not poor.

Instead of exploiting his service time to keep him longer why dont you hold ownership accountable and ask them to resign him?

He's as fast as buxton which is insane for a guy his size.

Someone will have to tell me when pal got a negative connotation.

They need an owner that doesnt take care of player requests for tax reasons? Weird take.

Zzzzz White Sox fans excusing their ownership for being cheap when it comes to service time manipulation but ripping them for being cheap with free agency is especially hypocritical.

Comparing sweeney in any way to robert is like comparing harold Miner to MJ.

This isnt an area scout pal. This was an international MLB scouting director. Also, legit high level mlb scouts dont say this is the best player on the planet about prospects ever.... to act otherwise is not being honest. Luis robert was obviously not better than mike trout two years ago, but you could argue he has the best tools on the planet currently - which is what scouting evaluation is all about.

Yeah, I didnt even agree with the scout as saying anyone is better than trout is nuts, but it was a reputable scout and that's all I was saying. People should be very excited about robert.

Robert's slugging will be closer to 600 than 500 I think.

There was a legit not looney scout that (he was wrong obviously) called robert the best baseball player alive two years ago. His hands are so short and quick. I read somewhere cite a long swing? I must be watching something else. Big follow throw, short to the ball. He is a fastball destroyer. AAA is a waste if time for Luis Robert - I've said that a lot. He doesnt need to learn to hit 4A breaking stuff, he needs to see big league breaking stuff and then he'll adjust there.

Cool. It's been like 30 at bats spread out over 4 weeks.

Lol this place cracks me up.

Sox have some fast risers in their system.