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On average, there's about 90-100 2.1+ WAR position players every year. Only about 25% of MLB baseball position players are average or better in regards to relation to replacement level.

Yes, it includes the bad picks that happen too. That's kind of the point being made.

Yes, the only way to justify those two picks is if they picked hall of Famers. Jack has said this like 3 times. It's more and more absurd everyday.

It's a promotion. Scouting directors make like $125000 a year to be on the road all year. This board is acting like it's a glory job or something. I view at as like an associate at a law firm. Work an ungodly amount for a few years and if you're good enough you get promoted to partner (aGM or etc) or you move on from them. Especially with a family.

This is where I'm at. Its vastly better than it was before, but it's not where it was in the late 80's and early 90's.

Amazing. And what I take away is that 4 out of 9 years he didn't find a single big leaguer and he was exploiting the draft back then making it much easier to find talent late. Man that 2011 draft before he left for the cubs was incredible though. Thankfully he didnt go to the north side one year earlier.

Yes, it is the most draining job In baseball imo. On the road 95% of the year. It can be brutal.

With Madrigal they did something that has never been done in baseball history. With vaughn they did something that hadn't been done in 2 decades and has only been done like 4 times in MLB history. I just cant agree with you saying these were obvious easy choices.

Its wrong because that's just not how baseball drafts work for the vast majority of MLB teams. Teams dont find 1-2 good players every year. If they did, every team would be good and filled with home grown talent. Youd be able to build an entire team nearly every 5 years from just drafting and youd never have to rebuild.

Idk what you guys are confused by. Drafting is all about comps and projection. When you do things that no one has ever done you are taking a shot and deserve credit. You think madrigal sucks despite a 172 wRC+ and it's because you're doing what everyone does - pigeon holing him because of his size. Yet you're saying they deserve no credit for not doing that. Kind of odd.

Not sure what you're saying come on too. People don't draft 5'6 2nd baseman in the top 5. You're going against the typical mold and taking a chance on a kid. Madrigal was the best position player in the draft for my money, but he didn't get drafted that way.

Say what? What is relatively good? These numbers are certainly outdated. I have the values of every pick somewhere - let me find it. 20% of 4th round picks are not relatively good unless relatively good is maybe reaching the big leagues one day.

But it's wrong.

This would make sense if Theo wasnt overspending slot heavily every year to get a top 10 talent at the end of the first round - whoever fell, theo would gobble them up and pay the penalty. The sox arent drafting lance Broadway's anymore. Theyve made significant progress with their draft strategy.

Not giving a guy credit for drafting a 5'6 2nd baseman with the 4th pick in the draft is nuts. Easy to call him the BPA as an outsider. Much harder to pull the trigger on a kid that fit absolutely zero molds of success. He went out on the limb there. Vaughn wasnt easy either as a RR under 6 foot 1st baseman.

And one has already reached the big leagues and the other two died. Firing a scouting director after three years would be like bringing in a new college coach and then firing him before any of his own recruits reach their junior year.

Hostetler has had the job for 3 years and you're asking where his successes are when the average draftee takes like 4 years just to reach the big leagues. Come on Jack. And then you give him no credit for the successes before he got the title yet he was second in command for those.

The Cubs would have had a better chance at winning a World Series then next 5 years than they have now after the trade. I'll never understand why people give a closer who almost blew the World Seried but was bailed out the credit for winning a world series. A freaking closer. Theres no scenario in baseball where 1 WAR today is worth more than 20+ WAR over the next 5 seasons in my opinion.

Burger, idk. Literally impossible to say. Process was sound - great metrics and he was a better defender then guys here give him credit for. Track man data was very good. Burdi was a bad pick. Way too much risk with relievers.

Theo has nothing to show for literally 1/2 his MLB drafs in his career. Don't believe me? Go take a look. Even when he was unreal in Boston he had drafts where NO ONE contributed - same with the cubs now. That's how the draft is in baseball. A lot of swings and a lot of misses. When you hit, you just have to make it count.

Cool. They could have acquired another closer for less? Or offered less? People act like Chapman was unhittable or that the Cubs couldnt have given up someone else. It's just wrong. The cubs gave up a guy every bit as good as Tatis and they got like 30 innings from a closer in return. It was an awful trade.

Yeah, he has a 172! wRC+ at AA - he's 72% better than average and people are being critical. I honestly can't believe it.

Yeah, many people on this sites expectations for drafts and first round picks outside of the top 5 are absurdly high for baseball.

One guy has already reached the big leagues as a #10 pick and the other two had bad injuries. Burdi was a reach as a reliever sure.. Your guys expectations for the 14th pick in the draft are absurd. Anything after 5 is a complete crap shoot. Madrigal has the best k-bb rate in minor league baseball by 2 times! He is two times better than the next best. That's unreal. Hes also been a gold glove caliber 2nd baseman. Ripping hostetler for drafting madrigal is a laughably bad take.

Eh competition at the top is good for business.