Look at Ray Ray Run

I'm definitely on team Burke. He's got a shot.

I like our jerseys but they certainly are made more for players. The avg fan wearing one is a tough look!

The amount of false equivalences you've mentioned in this thread is impressive. I've watched tons of bad baseball in my life. That's not the issue here. When the Sox tried to supply a quality product I'd watch all ups and downs. If my favorite musician started releasing albums of them simply humming I wouldn't keep listening out of loyalty.

My original comment? I responded to someone who said they did not understand the "not watching" crowd. I do find it to be an interesting choice to support a product that does not want your support. @Texsox I know the ownership group and, in turn, the front office is not trying. Do you think they are? They're going to have the lowest payroll they've had in 21 years this year. The game's revenue in the past 21 years has more than tripled. Meaning the payroll this year is more than 3 times less than it was 21 years ago, despite being roughly the same gross amount.

Has nothing to do with anger and I'm not sure where I mocked anyone. If the owner of a business doesn't care about the quality of their product, to the point that they are actively hostile towards its quality, why would i continue to support that product? I like movies but that doesn't mean i watch gigli to show support for all movies.

My rule of thumb is generally that I will put time and effort into things of which others are putting time and effort into. Which is why I'd have no problem watching a bunch of kids who aren't professionals play a sport at a lesser level, but won't waste a minute watching a team put together by a bunch of people who don't care.

You comparing an individual game outcome to a team doing everything in their power to put garbage on the field night after night is an interesting choice.

I love baseball, which is exactly why the Sox weren't worth a minute of my time last year.

We all like the White Sox --- we're on a fan forum. You said you didn't understand the never-watches crowd and went on to say you love baseball so you watch every game. The Sox last year were an embarrassment to baseball. As I've gotten older, the value of my time becomes more important and wasting 3+ hours a day on an entertainment product that has spent zero effort in actually entertaining me is not ideal. I'm still incredibly active in my baseball viewing, but I'll watch teams who take the point of providing an entertaining product more seriously; and who have more respect for the game in general.

If you love professional baseball I have no idea how you watch every white sox game right now. They're offensive to the game. I watch games of teams that put an MLB product on the field. You love pain, not baseball.

Drury changed/overhauled his swing prior to the 2022 season. He went on to accrue 5.8 WAR over his next 263 games (2 seasons). Last year he was absolutely horrible and it's always possible he's washed, but he's been capable of being a 3 WAR player 2 of the last 3 years which carries a lot more weight than what he did at 23.

Sure you are when they also have a major league roster full of actual big leaguers

The Sox are going to be owned by Ishbia soon enough, there's zero reason not to roster your best 26. Problem for Colson is that very likely isn't him.

It's very white sox to have Colson make the team and sit 75% of the games.

This might be true, but he's not going to net much. He's a solid versatile player. Maybe he cliffed last year and he's through, but it was worth the gamble.

Drury is a solid big leaguer in my opinion. You might be able to steal 3 WAR from someone like Drury.

I'm confused about what I'm incorrect about. Nothing essential was confirmed, and Hayes basically just cited Greenbergs article - he had zero original reporting. I agree that he is purchasing the team, and never stated otherwise. We're all just reading tea leaves though and it has nothing to do with reading two articles that said nothing.

Two quotes from Hayes article that you consider "essential." "People with knowledge of the situation believe Ishbia’s deal with the White Sox comes with an eventual path to take a controlling interest from longtime owner Jerry Reinsdorf." "However, the White Sox issued a statement denying that the deal comes with provisions for Ishbia to take control." and the Greenberg article: "People with knowledge of the discussions believe that the deal will allow Ishbia to take control of the team at some point by buying the shares of longtime owner Jerry Reinsdorf and other partners. But a White Sox official on Friday night disputed that notion, even though it would be unusual for prospective owners to make significant investments for minority shares without the promise of their stakes growing larger." There was nothing essential stated in either article to help estimate a transition period.

I think it looks bad to other owners to potentially poach their buyer. I also don't think Jerry ever has to be closer to selling to give up control. I still find it hard to believe that ishbia wants to own 40-50+% of something while someone else tanks it into the ground. I always thought it would likely take a year or two, so I'll be optimistic and say one year.

Nothing formal today, but today should be the day the gears starting officially turning.

Happy Ishbia day! Hopefully the countdown begins today!

If you're worse than the worst record of all time, you're still the worst of all time. It's impossible to be worse than the worst of all time. Don't think you're understanding by statement fully.

Based on the entire history of baseball, it is quite literally impossible to get worse than last year.

The suns were just in a conference finals. It's much easier to get "worse" than that.

He brought on elite talent who didn't mesh. If that's our problem here, OK. That would be way better than having the worst team in the sports history.