Look at Ray Ray Run

Yeah, the issue here isn't at the pro-level. Growing into velocity isn't terrible for your arm, it's the max effort from pony ball through pro ball that is destroying arms. Younger kids should learn to pitch first and worry about velo second. Max effort causing injuries shouldn't be surprising to anyone, but the damage is being done much sooner than at the MLB level.

What's funny is Trajekt costs like 18k a month and you've got to prepay for 3 years. Even with all that, it's a little over $200,000 a year which is a drop in the bucket. I haven't really touched on your point much, but it's my actual criticism of Chris Getz as our GM. Chris has been in other orgs and he knows people around the game - he will be a copycat GM. Will it get the Sox more with the times? Sure, but the White Sox will always be behind with Getz as GM because he's copying others as opposed to trekking his own path forward. Sustained winners in this game find their own value; their own edge.

The Director of Player Development absolutely would be allocating budget and resources within his department. That's what Directors do, Cali. You're right in that Getz wasn't on the field day to day. It was his job to guide those who were though, and to give them resources to succeed. The build a consistent message and platform from rookie ball through AAA - should I cite the articles where disjointment in the White Sox minor leagues are cited? I've given two examples in this very thread of low-cost solutions and advancements Chris Getz could have implemented in his role, regardless of the scope of his job. The highlighted portion is how you'd judge a Director of Player Development, imo, but you've somehow made those things not his fault at all. Your post is actually worse than WestEddy, because your entire argument is "we can't judge him because we didn't know his day to day job duties and we've never done that job ourselves." What did Chris Getz improve about the minor league operation while he was in charge? Can you name a single thing? All I've read the past four years is how archaic and inconsistent they are from level to level.

In the post immediately proceeding this, didn't you argue profusely that Getz failures were the result of KW/Hahn's horrible ability to identify talent in employees and their leaning towards hiring friends/family? Now those guys not firing Getz is a glowing endorsement? Interesting.

Sale's 2015 wasn't that close to Garrett, but his 2017/2018 was better but Sale is a first ballot hall of famer so... No idea who else you're talking about? Giolito and Cease? They never had numbers that close.

100%.

I guess by using the word "prospect" you might be correct, but Schultz/Smith have about a .1% chance of ever having a stretch of baseball as good as Garret had last year. Think both are really good, but 12.88k/2bb and 2.38 xFIP over 150 innings about as dominant as you can be.

I learned very early on in my career that when your failures are always someone else's fault, you're as much of the problem as the thing you deem to be at fault. It's true that Chris might (subjective here) have gotten subpar talent because of poor people overhead him, but he did literally nothing with it. It's not that he eeked out some fringe cases or transformed something of meaning, and more importantly it's not as if these players the Sox acquired were huge reaches. By most accounts, the marquee picks the Sox had were drafted in the slot they were expected to go. By trade I'm essentially a financial auditor. I go into broken situations with bad process, bad financials, and poor governance and I fix the unfixable. One thing in common in all these places I go is that they have bad leadership. Staff, in a lot of cases are very strong, but their guides are lost and have put them in positions to fail. Chris Getz was a guide with the White Sox, he wasn't a member of the staff. He had a chance to influence and he didn't get it done. He failed. Your job as a leader is to influence and drive positive change - regardless of the obstacles in front of you, that's your job. The staff's job is to execute that vision. Chris vision as executed by his staff has led to the least talented team in the history of the franchise. Was it just Chris' vision? No, but he's the ONLY one left here to blame and it's not because he was a good guide or leader. Analytics, for example, are a tool you can implement on your own. It's inexpensive, easily scalable, and highly personalizeable. Chris Getz himself could have established a framework for such a platform in the minors, but of course he never did because he never did anything down there.

Development windows aren't some endless period of time in which some new team can tap into what you once had. Baseball is a game that is predicated 99% on your mental makeup and about 1% on your talent. Everyone at this level is incredibly talented, and those that continue to grow/learn/develop and deal with failure are the ones that come out on top. When you fail and/or do not receive adequate development, that is lost development It's not something that can be re-found or made up again. It's similar to Jake Burger losing 3 years of development time - being a part of the White Sox developmental plan over the past decade was as damaging to a players career as tearing your Achilles twice. Crazy to think about, but that's the truth.

I post pretty sporadically in general but whenever I do stop by I can guarantee I'll see you defending Chris Getz to death. It's wild. Just because you call things logical doesn't make them so. Quick example. I say Getz got and had a lot of high draft picks, compared to other sox player development groups, and you went off to list out 50 playes that were drafted to show how bad they were... then you considered that a dunk. Either you have the reading comprehension of a toddler, or you just can't help but to change narratives and defend Chris at all costs.

Brian not the only one in the game that feels that way either. A true unicorn.

Imagine your entire internet persona was tied to defending everything about an unqualified GM who just oversaw the worst season in MLB history. Wild times out here on the world wide web.

No, I'm pointing out he received more high end talent than the previous regimes that you're blaming for all failures.

Soto turned down 340ish and got 750 Ian desmond turned down 107 million and then made 8.

As for the topic, Seattle would be my odds-on favorite. Quicker flight home. Big Japanese population and history. Him not wanting the NY/LA spot light but still wanting endorsements might as well say Seattle imo.

It's honestly incredible how delusional you are. People crack the joke a lot on this board, but dead serious you may be Chris Getz.

Why is he being judged for not developing consensus high draft picks? Because that was his job. Everything i stated was a fact. I'm sorry that bothers you.

What does anyone of this have to do with what I typed?

Since 1990 the Sox have drafted in the top 10, 7 times. Chris Getz was here for 3 of those times. Please tell me how he lacked all this top level talent that the prior regimes had. He had more top level talent handed to him via just the draft itself than anyone had prior to 1990. Additionally he had tons of talent added via trades.

Dead pull homer hitter who led the world in wall scrappers. Wrigley deep in left. He'd have like 78% of his current career Homers if he played all his game in Wrigley if you trust statcast. He's going to absolutely mash with those crawford boxes.

I never called Mike Elias the best GM in the sport, for the record. He's fine, nothing special but certainly better than Getz.

It means that it won't be major leaguers wives, like Wheelers, that cause players to sign elsewhere for less money. It'll be their own peers experiences and commentary. It means minor leaguers will dread being drafted by your organization and seek outside help to better their careers: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/3404269/2022/07/13/white-sox-minor-league-housing/ It means a city will laugh at your request for any accommodation because you saw a viewer-base decline so much that the number one cable provider in the city doesn't blink an eye over losing your 162 telecasts during a slow tv period. It means people might even start chattering about the team being moved from it's current hopeless location. If you don't know what losing credibility looks like, I'd ask what you've been watching happen over the past three years.

Now do the 100 other stretches like this in baseball history and their next 3+ year outcomes. Also add that the Orioles haven't won anything... but you're right they were terrible and so they hired, you said it, one of the best GM's in the sport to turn it around. Do you see all the challenges there? The White Sox missed the last part.

9 months in? Give it time? The White Sox are 102-222 in the last two years. This isn't a video game simulation, the White Sox are destroying their credibility throughout all of baseball.

I never said it would never work. I'm saying don't lie about what you're selling. This rebuild is not in a better position than the last one was. Does that mean this one can't turn out better? Of course not; I understand the laws of probability. That said, don't try and tell people who are rightfully hesitant and reluctant that it's different. The average MLB tenure for a pitcher, since 2005, is 2.85 years. A starter is slightly higher. I'd take the under on both of them easily.