Look at Ray Ray Run

I dont think Bryce Harper is worth 350 million if manny was worth 300. I especially dont think the Sox should be interested if they though manny was worth only 250. I dont want the Sox to hurt themselves just to appease angry fans. That contract wouldnt be a good one. Mannyz was. Just because you fucked up with manny does not mean you should overspend for Harper - that's not how a good organization runs imo.

40 million is two Marwins. It's not cheap.

Bonds won like 97 gold gloves in a row and he stole 600 bases. Can we please stop even using bonds as a barometer for Harper?

If you can hit like Barry bonds, nothing else matters. Sure.

Barry bonds is the greatest hitter of all time. My goodness... those two are not similar. It would be the largest contract in baseball history and you guys think it's ok to give it to someone you see dhing in 3 years.

Agree to disagree. I dont want to overpay just because... that's not a smart move by the FO and is even dumber.

Yes I'm citing WAR which is a culmination of all aspects of the game. Bryce Harper is not worth more than manny Machado. Certainly hes not worth 100 million more.

Whi cares? Uh.. I'm not paying a DH 350 million.

He has been GREAT before. Historically great. I have never argued otherwise but the moral of the story is that Harper has had one Great year, one good year, and 3 years not worth the contract.

It's not worth 9 million by any actual measure. Fangraphs will admit such. That number is heavily influenced by guys like pujols shit contract. If that's truly what teams paid, manny would get more than 300 million.

Which means 4.5 million if hes a starter. Not a bad deal at all. cut him and pay him next to nothing.

Cherry pick? Lol. It's WAR. How is that cherry picking? Btw, getting hurt is an issue with harper. 3 WAR isnt worth 350 million pal. Sorry.

Jd Martinez has been a better hitter overall since his swing change - at worst they've been incredible similar. Jd was older, but that doesnt mean Bryce Harper is worth twice as much Sorry

Dude. If you use bWAR he has multiple years below 2 WAR. If you use fWAR, he has 2 years at 3 and 1 at 1.6. How has he never been average? Theres more to baseball than wRC

Well I use WAR more than OPS since JD Martinez is arguably a better hitter with no defensive skills and he got about 130 million. Citing one stat doesnt work for me. Harper had been an average overall player more years than hes been good - regardless of your ops opinion. If you're paying Harper 350 million to hit 250 with 30 Homer's you're badly overpaying. If he returns to the superstar he was one year then he's worth it. If hes last years Harper then hes not.

The powerhouse teams being out means nothing if someone else pays the price. Harper would be an overpay at 350 and a bad signing.

No. Absolutely not. I'd give him 310, that's my max. I think Manny is the better player and would have given him more. Sox valued machado at 250. Harper has had more mediocre seasons than good/great ones. I think he'll be fine but with his defense dwindling and an injury history youd be nuts to give him 350 for just his baseball skills imo.

If the white Sox think Bryce Harper is worth 100 million dollars more than Manny machado they should eliminate the franchise.

The White Sox are OUT on Brycr Harper. They are not even submitting a bid. They are high on their outfield depth and feel it's a risk not worth taking... and as sad as it is to say, I agree. Harper doesn't fit. Manny did.

Shut up. My goodness.

Palka is bad.

Where does this say entire drafts.

You literally said #1's

Lol they moved a very athletic and talented third baseman to left field... I hope he can play there. Semien was another actual success story - a nothing prospect who won AA POY. why do Sox fans name guys who actually developed after being nothing prospects at draft time?

Didnt sign tatis and urias has proven nothing yet. The greatest Latin American mind in the game as caulfield says has literally no one to name.