Controlled Chaos

QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ May 30, 2008 -> 12:04 PM) No one fears Buehrle!!!! He got singled to death last time against Tampa....hopefully he gets some better hops this time around.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 30, 2008 -> 11:16 AM) We must go back to the Island!!! yeah, but we can't find it

Why every guy should buy their girlfriend Wii Fit.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ May 30, 2008 -> 10:36 AM) :crying You really want to cry....Let me tell ya what would be at the top of my list...Rolling Rock and Miller Lite.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ May 30, 2008 -> 10:19 AM) throwing my own $0.02 in. . . There already is an established and eagerly anticipated Soxtalk hot chicks contest that has evolved its own round-robin type elimination structure. Doing the same thing as a compilation of submitted lists, imo, won't be as compelling. Just my thoughts. Go Beer! There may be a few beer connoisseurs on this board, but I don't think enough for a list.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 30, 2008 -> 09:52 AM) Wow. That is an incredible deal. The only thing that sucks is the 30 day warranty....but you can buy a 1 year from that squaretrade for like 35 bucks...price varies depending on price of the set.

my dad grabbed two.

QUOTE (rangercal @ May 29, 2008 -> 11:27 PM) wow no cartoon love? Imagine a world with no cartoons? hahaha...I've never seen that!!

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 30, 2008 -> 07:44 AM) I've always had the impression that people in South Florida just don't care about baseball that much, even in spite of the big Latin population, and that adding 2 expansion teams down there in the 90s was a mistake. I think most of the people out in the St Pete area are transplants. Maybe they are fans of other teams?

QUOTE (stretchstretch @ May 29, 2008 -> 03:59 PM) hoping to take game 1 in particular and apply pressure so we need one more win to at least split, or 2-3 to dominate the series...... it's BS that we have to play this young team 7 straight in their park, and only get them once at home later this summer.....hopefully the beating we gave them in the two wins in April will create a little doubt in their heads compared to the teams in their division they've taken it to? TB was the last team I cared about playing when the schedule came out. There are a lot of sox fans out there....REPRESENT!!

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 29, 2008 -> 11:44 AM) I think it depends on the situation. My initial reaction is to never hit a woman, but I'm sure there are circumstances in which it could be necessary. If she pushes me, though...hell yes I'd push her back. When I was little and my sister would hit me...I would trip her. I would kick her foot into her other leg so she would fall down...and then I would always be able to tell my parents...I never laid a hand on her.

So I don't follow racing at all...but I read an article I found interesting yesterday. Danica stormed down pit row to go after Ryan Brisco after she was knocked out of the race by his car(save the whose at fault or the women shouldn't be racing argument for another thread) I guess she went after another driver some other time and pushed him as well. So the question is, how do you handle this? If she got to Brisco and pushed him or hit him or whatever...what's a guy suppose to do? It's pretty much lose lose in that situation. I pretty much go by the standard of you don't hit a woman...period. So the question is if she came up and pushed him...do you think he has the right to push her back. How would you handle the situation? I mean I know she probably wants to be treated just like everyone else...but she's 5'2 100lbs...she won't be...so how does that situation play out in the future. This is all specualtion cause she could have been just going there to chew him out...but since she has pushed someone before...the chance is she would do it again.

The weird thing to me is when OC says "I don't have to do it with other teams because they always had my back. They don't want to do it here" I mean that comment kinda sounds like it has happened before and Ozzie didn't have his back and call...but OC only has one credited error on the season...so what is he talking about?? Also, is it normal for managers to call to the official scorer during the game to argue these things? That seems weird to me.....After a bad play in the field...be it the catchers fault or the SS or whatever...I can't see the manager calling the player over who was charged with the E and saying...hey they charged you with an error there...I'm going to call up and get that changed for you. That just seems like such a messed up thing to do in the middle of the game. After the game fine....but during the game....when a guy gets back to the dugout..it should be like....don't worry about it...shake it off.....lets get some runs here...whatever. Unless OC is the type that says....I ain't worried about it...it wasn't my fault anyway. I would think in a situation like the one with Toby and OC...both players would get together and say...my bad lets shake it off...yada yada yada.

Athletes BORN in Chicago/Illinois. and of course Hot chick!! TV comedy is also a good one.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ May 29, 2008 -> 01:10 AM) It was recently pointed out that logistics would make the Yankee Stadium game impossible, so I'd be shocked if the game next season isn't at Wrigley. I think that this is a good idea too, except for the fact Soldier Field is bigger, newer, has better ammenities, better sightlines/no poles in front of seats, more seats, and more parking. It should definitely be at Soldier Field.

End of an error: Ozzie restores order Guillen makes sure Cabrera controversy doesn't escalate May 29, 2008 BY CHRIS DE LUCA [email protected] Quiet for a second. Did you hear that? No, sorry, that was noth- ing. Shhh. Wait. ... No, still nothing. That silence no longer can be ignored. What we have here is no one -- not a single White Sox teammate -- stepping up and defending veteran shortstop Orlando Cabrera, who has been drawing so many evil looks, you'd swear Johan Santana had just walked in the room. Surely, someone is willing to fall on the side of serial dialer Cabrera, who wants the world to know this: ''If there was a major-league player who tells me he's not selfish, he's lying. Everyone is selfish about numbers because that's the only thing people cannot lie about.'' So Cabrera -- in an interview with the Chicago Tribune -- is on record saying being selfish is just part of being a major-leaguer. MLB's marketing team in New York should jump all over this slogan. Cabrera had all of the makings to become the biggest distraction in the Sox' clubhouse since David Wells took up more than his share of space during a tumultuous 2001 season. Then manager Ozzie Guillen stepped in and did something he rarely did last season. He restored order. Guillen addressed a festering issue before it turned into a season-ruining distraction. Guillen's take: Cabrera was wrong to take matters into his own hands a week ago and call the press box twice to argue a scoring decision -- one that originally credited the Gold Glove shortstop with his second error this season. Now move on. ''The only thing I care is how he's going to be on the field,'' Guillen told reporters Wednesday in Cleveland. ''I don't think I'm his favorite manager. But you know what? He's my favorite shortstop right now.'' Now it's up to Cabrera -- a self-described clubhouse leader who has zero followers -- to make sure the issue dies. When Cabrera was acquired last November from the Los Angeles Angels for pitcher Jon Garland, no one would have imagined the veteran would become such a headache so early. Guillen and Cabrera had worked together before. Guillen's first coaching job was with Montreal in 2001, when Cabrera played his first full season in the majors and won the first of two Gold Gloves. Garland was entering the final year of his contract, just like Cabrera, but the Sox had hoped they could lock up the shortstop for a few more years. Now, they simply want to survive the season. All over a few phone calls to the press box, including one during a May 3 game in Toronto. There are a few facts in this case Cabrera and his media defense attorneys don't understand: This isn't about Orlando vs. Ozzie or Cabrera vs. the media. It's about Cabrera and the 24 players he lives with in the Sox' clubhouse. Because it definitely doesn't matter if the media like him. It doesn't even matter if his manager likes him. It does matter if his teammates like -- and respect -- Cabrera. Players complain about scoring decisions all the time. They might point out, usually through a third party, that the ball took a bad hop or their errant throw wouldn't have been in time anyway. Most players -- the ones considered good teammates -- don't try to get a decision reversed if it means a teammate will get the error instead. But that's what happened in this instance last Thursday against the Indians during a stolen-base try by Ben Francisco. Cabrera's case hinged on catcher Toby Hall's throw being errant. Basically, he was saying: Don't give me an error, give it to Toby. That's where things can get ugly. Some teammates also were irked that Cabrera jumped for a ball that didn't require acrobatics. Was he trying to make the play look more difficult, or was he unwilling to sacrifice his body with Francisco charging toward the bag? Either way, his actions at second base came under tighter scrutiny after the phone calls. Here's an interesting twist to the whole story. Official scorer Bob Rosenberg, who never spoke directly with Cabrera and wasn't even aware the shortstop had lodged the complaint, did change his scoring decision after the game, taking the error away from Cabrera and giving it to Hall. After he left the ballpark, Rosenberg had a change of heart and decided the error belonged to Cabrera. But before he could make another switch, the Elias Sports Bureau -- MLB's official statistician -- stepped in and ruled that no one committed an error. Francisco had simply stolen a base. In the end, the Sox won that game. They also won Wednesday, beating the Indians 6-5. The Case of Cabrera Calling hasn't served as a distraction. Credit Guillen for not committing an error on this issue. _____________________________________ Ozzie takes high road, feud with Cabrera is over May 29, 2008 BY JOE COWLEY [email protected] CLEVELAND — As far as Ozzie Guillen is concerned, the matter is over. The White Sox manager made that very clear today, taking the high road, despite shortstop Orlando Cabrera continuing to cast stones in the fifth-year skipper’s directions. But if Cabrera refuses to let it just go away at this point, well, it is evident he will not win this battle. Not on the South Side. “I’m not going to go back and forth with my players,’’ Guillen said. “Everyone has the right to say what he wants.’’ Guillen was informed Tuesday that Cabrera told a reporter that the manager wasn’t protecting him, and then had a chance to read the quotes Wednesday morning. It was a claim that Guillen still didn’t understand. “I don’t think I’m his favorite manager,’’ Guillen said laughing. “But you know what? He’s my favorite shortstop right now. “I hope I can protect him better. I don’t know how. Like I say, my door is open. If something bothers you, feel free to talk to me about it. I’m not going to make a big issue about it. As long as he’s here, he’s going to play. It’s not about feelings, it’s about winning. The only thing I care about him is make sure he plays the game and respects his teammates. That’s all you can ask. Everything else will take care of itself. If he wants to call back, I’ll give him my cellular phone to call back.’’ Cabrera is a free agent after this season, and it has become clear that this will be his only season with the Sox. The question is, will he even last the entire season? In the only newspaper Cabrera was speaking to on Tuesday, he went on to say that all major league players are selfish. “When he says every player is selfish, maybe he used the wrong word about selfish,’’ Guillen said. “Everyone has to take care of themselves before they take care of the team. That’s the way he should have put it. Because saying every player is selfish, I played the game. I played longer than he did. And I played with more different teammates than he did. “I think selfish sounds like he isn’t a team player. But in baseball, I say we win as a team and lose as a team.’’ The incident sprang out of a Sun-Times story on Sunday about how Cabrera had called up to the press box during games twice this season to dispute errors. Guillen said Monday that Cabrera needed to watch what he did because of how it would look for his teammates. “This is not Anaheim,’’ Guillen said. “I know he played in Boston. But the fans here and the media here get into stuff like this. And I don’t want him to cut off and keep prolonging it because he’s not going to win.’’ Much ado … Asked about the on-field argument between reliever Octavio Dotel and director of conditioning Allen Thomas on Tuesday, Guillen said it was nothing. “A.T. has a job, Dotel got a job to follow,’’ Guillen said. “I think everything went out of proportion. It’s a not a big deal. I think everyone will be fine. Everyone has to respect everyone’s job. We’re not children here. Make sure everyone gets along on the field. But I don’t put my nose there because they should resolve it like men.’’

QUOTE (Texsox @ May 28, 2008 -> 03:55 PM) Decent thought on Probert. And well argued. I disagree but admit I would have added him to my Top 10 list of embarassing Chicago athletes. He'd probably be on mine as well. He was a terrible character guy and to be honest, I'm not even a big fan, but he was dominant at his role and he was tough as hell.

QUOTE (Mplssoxfan @ May 28, 2008 -> 03:43 PM) Did they use that on February 23? They should have. Nope.... http://www.zombietime.com/google_memorial_day_logo/

QUOTE (kane0730 @ May 28, 2008 -> 01:32 PM) I LOVE IT!! Glad I was wrong too.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ May 28, 2008 -> 01:32 PM) are they pitching to V-Mart, changing pitchers or conference on the mound? pitching to him 1-2

put on vmart

Come on OD