Controlled Chaos

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Feb 19, 2008 -> 11:01 AM) i could provide you with some proof... does soxtalk have a "nudity" policy? Wow I never saw Tiffani Amber. No Way Lohan beats her in my book. Just google her name on google images.

QUOTE(Soxfest @ Feb 18, 2008 -> 11:56 PM) F*** Pecota :fthecubs......... Play the games! I agree. You just can't predict what's going to happen between the lines. You can make an educated guess. I suggest we make a spreadsheet and post it somewhere so all of us can put in our projections for the record of each team. I'm banking the guesses from the members of this board will rival that of PECOTA's. Does anyone have access to the Win Projections for every team? I believe it was Aaron Levinstein that said.. Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.

Along the line's of Tex's post.... I went to a nut roast. Yeah those nuts... Taste like chicken.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 18, 2008 -> 06:06 PM) That card gets played very easily around here. The worst offender(s) are gone, but it still happens. That was one reason I asked where you were going with the article and probably why there are so few replies to the thread. Well I certainly didn't think I would be called a racist. I just didn't think that card would be pulled out. I had the article sent to me and was kind of shocked to read some of the stuff and see the pictures. As well as the whereabouts of the $500,000 being unknown. I thought maybe some other people would be shocked as well. Maybe be like... yeah that's screwed up or yeah that was totally mishandled or whatever. I thought the reaction would be pretty a universal one. Honestly though...for someone to say their impression is the poster who started the thread is a racist in denial of his own hate, is just as bad as any other personal attack I have read on here. He knows absolutely nothing about me.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 18, 2008 -> 03:23 PM) Well first of all, I said the impression I got (reading is a skill) is that both you and Mr. Robertson's thoughts could certainly be perceived as racist. Now that doesn't mean either of you are racist (actually that's a lie, Robertson is racist, but I can't speak for you, you aren't on TV a lot), but it means that your thoughts on the Jena 6 give that impression, that's all. And if you tell somebody they wouldn't say something like that to your face, that implies there is a threat of response from you if I say it. Once again, I cannot speak for you, but I can speak for the implications of your comments. You're hilarious...I paste your direct quote and you insist on telling me that's not what you said. Then you tell me reading is a skill?? You can backtrack now and say you meant 'our thoughts' can be 'perceived' as racist, which is still BS, but that is not what you wrote. Me telling you I don't think you would say something to my face is not indicative of any threat on my part, but a lack of testicular fortitude on yours. I will say it again. You would not call me a racist to my face. I'm not speaking of any consequences if you did, I'm just speaking of you not having the balls to get in my face and call me a racist with nothing to back it up.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 18, 2008 -> 02:31 PM) No i'm not calling you a racist, I'm saying you and Mr. Robertson's thoughts on this, that is was basically a hoax, have strong racial overtones. If you think Jena 6 was overblown, your right, but if you think it was a hoax, your not paying attention. And I'd call you a racist in person too, btw, just for your threat towards me, even though I don't think you really are a racist. Anybody who feels the need to play tough guy on the internet like you just did is, more than likely, not very tough. "The poster who started this thread is a racist in denial of his own hate" You didn't just type that?? I'll let the admins decide if they can some how interpret that to mean something else. Perhaps you need to learn the definition of threat....I did nothing of the sort. I simply said you wouldn't dare call me a racist to my face...and I stand by that.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 18, 2008 -> 02:27 PM) I'm not saying I don't feel that way, but coming up with the avenue to correct this stuff is daunting. To match the same intensity of coverage they would have to hold daily press conferences for a couple weeks with someone new coming out and saying they were wrong, misled, etc. Seriously, how many viewers wouold keep tuning in to hear that? I agree. I wouldn't expect them to match the intensity of coverage or anything. Just issue a statement. Acknowledge your mistake.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 18, 2008 -> 02:17 PM) That the poster who started this thread, like Pat Robertson, is a racist in denial of his own hate? That's the only impression I've gotten out of this. Did you just call me a racist for pointing out inaccuracies on a story? Are you f***ing kidding me?? There was a post on here last week about how some people act different online as opposed to in person. Well you just gave the best example of that, cause you would never EVER dare call me that to my face. You have a pretty heavy hand typing on a keyboard.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 18, 2008 -> 12:17 PM) And what is the problem? What should be the final outcome of the Jenna 6? The problem to me is there should be an apology by the media, Al, Jesse, everyone for jumping on the badwagon and linking events that weren't even connected. The story which couldn't be avoided if you turned on a tv, was never corrected. Probably more than half the country thinks what was reported back then was fact and I just think it's wrong. I'm sorry you don't feel that way. If I lived in that town I would be pissed.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 18, 2008 -> 11:48 AM) What point are you trying to make? Yes, occasionally there are mistakes and what on the surface is blamed for racism, turns out not to be. Rejoice and be glad. But to believe there is no racism in America is wrong. When those mistakes are never acknowledged by anyone there's a big f***in problem.

Well there's always this old thread as well. Pat didn't write this one, but the author he is referencing did.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Feb 18, 2008 -> 10:14 AM) All this coming from a guy who used to oppose the Civil rights movement and MLK. Yeah...don't focus on the story or anything...

Can they issue a subpoena for that first draft??

'Trade' to Japan leaves Kendrick in shock Monday, Feb 18, 2008 1:36 am EST Philadelphia Phillies pitcher Kyle Kendrick was shocked to learn that he'd been traded to the Yomiuri Giants in Japan for a player named "Kobayashi Iwamura." "I don't know what to think right now," he told reporters outside his locker shortly after getting the news from assistant general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. Had he truly been thinking, he would have realized that such deals are prohibited. And with a little digging he could have found out that there is no Kobayashi Iwamura playing in Japan. The "trade" was, in fact, a prank. The ruse was orchestrated by pitcher Brett Myers and was elaborate enough to include Amaro, manager Charlie Manuel, Kendrick's agent, the media and others.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 16, 2008 -> 06:51 PM) I'm just gonna unilaterally move this to the Filibuster. No offense. None taken....That is totally where I intended on posting it. Sorry for the mix up.

Congrats man!!!!!!!! Enjoy your sleepless nights for a few months!!

The Jena Six -- and Other Scams By Patrick J. Buchanan Friday, February 15, 2008 "(S)ome Americans do not understand why the sight of a noose causes such a visceral reaction," declared President Bush to the White House gathering for Black History Month. As The Washington Post rushed to remind us, President Bush was "responding to news coverage of such episodes as the 'Jena Six.'" But if history is about truth, not myth, that news coverage deserves another look, before the Jena Six enter the history books alongside Emmett Till and "the Scottsboro Boys." By now, most folks know the media story. White students at Jena High in Louisiana hung nooses on a tree to warn black students not to sit under it. After a fistfight over this racist outrage, black kids in the fight were indicted for attempted murder, while the white racists who hung the nooses walked away with a verbal spanking. Last September, 20,000 traveled to Jena to march against this prosecutorial outrage. Fortunately, however, there are still a few real journalists around. Among them are Craig Franklin, assistant editor of the Jena Times, whose wife teaches at Jena High, and Charlotte Allen, who wrote an extended piece for The Weekly Standard. According to Allen and Franklin, here are the facts and chronology you have been denied by the Mainstream Media. There never was a "whites-only" tree at Jena High. Both races sat under it, though whites congregated there. The nooses, or lariats, were the work of three young teens, who got the idea from watching "Lonesome Dove" on TV, where rustlers are hanged. Franklin says they were a joke aimed at white friends on the rodeo team. As they were painted in Jena High's gold and black, Allen reports that the kids said the nooses were directed at a rival school's Western-themed football team. When school officials confronted them, all were remorseful. All had black friends, and none knew the nooses were offensive to blacks. Far from being let off, they spent "nine days at an alternative facility, followed by two weeks of in-school suspension, Saturday detentions, attendance at Discipline Court and evaluations by licensed mental-health professionals." They were not prosecuted for a hate crime because none of those who investigated the incident believed they committed a hate crime. Hung on Aug. 31, 2006, the nooses had been taken down instantly. Only a few students ever saw them. Case closed. September, October and November passed at Jena High with no racial conflict emanating from the noose incident of August. On Dec. 1, however, Robert Bailey Jr. tried to crash a party at the Fair Barn in Jena. One Justin Sloan, 22, not a student, put a fist in his face. So witnesses and Bailey reported to police. And Sloan was prosecuted for battery. On Dec. 2, Bailey and two friends jumped a white male entering the "Gotta Go" grocery. When the latter ran to get a shotgun out of his car, they wrested it from him and took it. So two witnesses at the "Gotta Go" agreed. Two days later came the "schoolyard fight." Only this was no fight. Black students barricaded an exit to the gym and lay in wait for Justin Barker. As Barker went for another exit, he was struck in the head from behind by Mychal Bell. Multiple witnesses say Barker fell unconscious as a gang of eight or 10 blacks stomped and kicked him in the head. The assistant principal who reached Barker thought he was dead. Barker's emergency room bill ran to more than $5,000. When the six were arrested and charged with attempted second-degree murder, none of them and none of the witnesses mentioned the noose incident. It had had nothing to do with this vicious racist assault. After the charges were reduced to battery, Bell, tried as an adult, was indeed convicted by an all-white jury -- because no blacks answered the summons to the jury pool. Why was Bell prosecuted as an adult? Because he had four prior convictions for crimes of violence. After his conviction was overturned, Bell was ordered retried as a juvenile. Rather than face the same 17 witnesses, he pled guilty in December to hitting Barker from behind, slamming his head into a concrete beam and kicking him in the head. Sentenced to 18 months in juvenile detention, he agreed to testify against his co-conspirators. While some $500,000 has been raised for the Jena Six defense, its whereabouts is unknown. Bailey did pose on the Internet grinning, however, with $100 bills in his mouth. Bell's mom is said to be driving a new Jaguar, and Bailey's mom a new Beamer. Two other Jena Sixers, Carwin Jones and Bryant Purvis, appeared in rapper attire on Black Entertainment Television as presenters of a Hip-Hop Award. A week ago, 6-foot, 6-inch Purvis, who had transferred to Hebron High in Carrollton, Texas, was charged with assault, choking a student and ramming his head into a bench. And that's the Saga of The Jena Six. It belongs right up there with the Rev. Al's other classics: Tawana Brawley and the Duke rape case.

I wonder who signed for them. The guy states in the article someone other than Kazmierczak signed for them.

Some very interesting stuff here... http://www.votefortheworst.com/americanidol7contestants

Speaking of idiots and lighters!!

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 12:01 PM) I would like to say that I'm in favor of gun controls for PEOPLE WHO TAKE CRAZY PILLS. I agree 100%. Enforcing something like that can be a challenge though. "It is unconscionable to restrict people's civil rights because they have a medical illness," said Nada Stotland, vice president of the American Psychiatric Association (though APA says it doesn't take a position). David Shern, president of Mental Health America, denounced the measure as "an extremely ill-informed, regressive social policy that further stigmatizes people and will do nothing to reduce gun violence." The critics say the ban discriminates against people with mental illness, based on the erroneous assumption that they are more violent than other people.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 10:42 AM) point is... if there was better gun control your sick mofo wouldn't have had one to begin with. The bad guys, the ones intending to harm, will ALWAYS find a way.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 08:46 AM) Steven Phillip Kazmierczak is the name of the shooter, according to the Northern Star. yeah already in the wiki.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Illi...hooting#_note-2

6th victim now dead.

White Sox 2008 World Champions. I'm going into the season expecting to win it all and I'm not kidding. If the backend of the rotation holds up, the Sox have just as good a chance as anyone. I'm sick of the stupid doom and gloom predictions for this season. This is baseball...anything can happen between the lines. Some choose to believe that "anything" is bad and some, like me, choose to believe that "anything" ends up with me going broke from buying a s***load of memorabilia.