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Jesse Chavez is 9 days older than Chris Getz. Dominic Fletcher is six inches smaller than Chris Getz. Kevin Pillar is 35 years old. .692 is his best the first three real seasons this decade. Mike Moustakas is 35 years old. .685 is his best the first three real seasons this decade. This is not a serious franchise and won't be until a person without Reinsdorf in their name is controlling the franchise.

I can see no threads for even real games as there were past year due to apathy and disgust. Speaking of apathy and disgust, the Sox are 72 games better with Sheets out of the lineup than in it, despite the fact other RF candidates have also been been flawed (Eaton, Lamb, Vaughn, Colas, etc.). Between 2021-2023, Sox are net -72 (Sheets’ TWTW score) worse when Gavin Sheets plays (127-172 -45) vs. when he doesn’t play (109-82 27). This isn’t merely a coincidence, or a product of his usage (best relievers plus Billy Hamilton used to protect leads late). His poor fielding and hitting area net drag on team performance. He should be stashed in Charlotte or DFA’d, or given away for even the flimsiest of returns. Sheets has no value on a MLB team.

Setting aside JR's ludicrous faux GM job search, in the same mold as Tony's, who by the way is still rummaging around doing unknown damage to morale and actual decisions, I was willing to give Getz some time. I've liked the FO decisions he made, especially the lack of attractiveness of working in an organization operated by Jerry Reinsdorf. Was also fine to pleased with many of his moves, and the few that were head scratchers like Maldonado are one year deals on guys they can hopefully flush if their prospects are ready. The past few weeks have been really concerting. I realize young starters are hard to come by, unless they are apparently named Mena, so was OK taking a chance on some mid 20s rotation guys with some pedigree and or fixable / improvable mechanics to give the Sox much needed innings. Pillar and Mendick are OK as final reserves who provide positional flexibility, but WTF is this Moustakas, Brett Phillips, Rafael Ortega, Mark Payton s%*#? The Sox need to spend their time developing their young players, not serving as a boarding house for guys who are either done or never were to begin with.

Putting a positive in this thread before it's mercifully locked away in the Soxtalk Archieves. Didn't see this highlight posted earlier, so here we go with Tim Elko's first White Sox HR, and John Schriffen's first home run call in his new full time White Sox announcer role.

Same with those repulsive casinos in seemingly every suburban grocery store, barber shop and beef stand, or the large casinos. Money that would be spent on other entertainment options are siphoned into a machine one twenty or c-note at a time. My favorite beef place and Italian grocery store put machines in this month (in neighboring Harwood Heights). Potterville in It's a Wonderful Life seems so quaint. People need to shift their economic activity from these worldwide corporations to local shops, businesses, banks and credit unions, etc. I don't have or use an app for anything beyond downloading for a plane ticket.

This division has been dismal for nearly the 30 years it's been in existence, but you already know that. This thread is to discuss any A. L. Central related news. Will start with the projected standings by the two best known prediction websites, plus online gambling odds. PECOTA Win Loss Projections Minnesota 89-73; Cleveland 83-79; Detroit 75-87; Kansas City 71-91; Chicago 66-96 Division Title Projections Minnesota 70.9%; Cleveland 24.2%; Detroit 4.3%; Kansas City 0.5%; Chicago 0.1% World Series Championship Projections Minnesota 7.9%; Cleveland 1.7%; Detroit 0.3%; Kansas City & Chicago 0.0% FanGraphs Win Loss Projections Minnesota 84-78; Cleveland 80-82; Detroit 79-83; Kansas City 76-86; Chicago 67-95 Division Title Projections Minnesota 52.9%; Cleveland 21.4%; Detroit 18.1%; Kansas City 7.1%; Chicago 0.5% World Series Championship Projections Minnesota 3.9%; Cleveland 1.2%; Detroit 0.9%; Kansas City 0.2%; Chicago 0.0% DraftKings Odds Win Loss Odds Minnesota 86.5; Detroit 80.5; Cleveland 78.5; Kansas City 73.5; Chicago 63.5 Division Title Odds Minnesota $115 to win $100; Detroit 3.5-1; Cleveland 3.5-1; Kansas City 8.5-1; Chicago 40-1 World Series Championship Odds Minnesota 20-1; Detroit 60-1; Cleveland 70-1; Kansas City 130-1; Chicago 250-1

I'm not sure that would be the overriding reason vs. all the owners opposing because: Pissing away a viable $2B expansion team location. Shifting a team from revenue sharing payor to revenue sharing recipient, which all the remaining American cities without an MLB team would be based on their very small population and purchasing power. Also, regardless of what short-term boost a team may get from moving to a much smaller market willing to hand out more corporate welfare, long term a team will make more staying in Chicago than moving to Portland, Nashville, Salt Lake City or Charlotte. The Athletics will be worth less over time in Vegas than if they accepted one of the solid offers they received in Oakland. There will continue to be far more demand for Golden Knights tickets than John Fisher's A's will merit. Vegas could work if done right, but few people, even the Chamber of Commerce, is enthusiastic getting John Fisher and his garbage organization he nuked since purchasing, Jerry would be worth far less if they moved to Tampa, and the new ownership group will be worth less in Nashville over time than if they stayed in Chicago. Doubt sitting outside in Nashville in the Summer will be an attractive proposition, especially since baseball ranks behind several sports options including the SEC, NFL, NBA, NASCAR, possibly their NHL team. MLB also backtracked from expansion is inevitable as soon as Oakland and Tampa's stadium schemes are resolved to Manfred wants to approve expansion before leaving in 2029. People in various cities across the country are fighting the obscene grift. Perhaps 70 years too late in most of America, but better late than never.

Manfred made it so we can all see a player's underwear or going commando without a player dropping their pants.

Thank you so much!!! Need to figure out how to stream Tabasco games, could be more entertaining than White Sox baseball. Hope he can play well and perhaps get a call up at some point back to MLB to play for a contender and be a game changing threat on the bases or in the outfield late. https://www.instagram.com/olmecastabasco/reel/C3l5VfNrzrn/ https://olmecastabasco.mx/boletin-de-prensa/el-correcaminos-hamilton-acuerda-para-la-temporada-2024-con-olmecas/

Someone please pick me up tomorrow and bring home a White Sox Spring training winner.

They got me excited on the radio broadcast saying Billy Hamilton was in camp with Cincinnati, but there is no change in his free agent status.

La Russa and the assholes he recruited (primarily Lynn and Kelly). Keuchel was an asshat before and after La Russa.

I was happy 10 games would be broadcast this spring, but the past two hours have been hard to handle. Relievers have been good, but the Sox sound to be overmatched by who ever the Cubs are inserting to pitch. I wonder how Spring Training revenue is split between the home and away clubs. Sox play in Mesa three of the four games not counting the prospect game.

Chris Getz is the fourth in a succession of White Sox GMs , and the fifth in Jerry Reinsdorf's ownership tenure, who value TWTW, The Will To Win, above all other quantitative metrics in vogue around MLB. WAR - Common metric used by most people to record a player's total contribution to a team's performance. TWTW - Chicago White Sox proprietary methodology used to record a player's total contribution to a team's performance, TWTW is a revolutionary concept established by Hawk Harrelson in 1986. Larry Himes was the lone non-adherent and was quickly fired as a result. Ron, Kenny and Rick all followed the core principles of TWTW until they left the organization. Sox fans can sleep well at night knowing Chris Getz is also a firm believer in the TWTW philosophy. Chris acknowledged TWTW as a key component to his approach this offseason, during his interview with Scott Merkin published yesterday. https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/chris-getz-discusses-first-six-months-as-white-sox-gm Jerry Reinsdorf is fully committed to the TWTW philosophy. Rather than pay players top dollar for the Ohtani's and Trout's of this world. he is able to reward players who do things his way, the White Sox way, and pay less money for players unwanted by the other 29 ballclubs using modern metrics to evaluate players. With Liam and Tim's 2024 status settled this week, I can now unveil the secrets of TWTW as they apply to the 2024 Chicago White Sox including The Departed. TWTW Score = Net wins/losses above/below .500 vs. White Sox overall record. Can only be earned as a member of the Chicago White Sox (founded in 1981). Example: Sammy Peralta has a positive 20 score, based on the fact the White Sox were only 10 games under .500 during games he appeared, whereas the White Sox were 30 games under .500 in games he did not appear. Note: A player's TWTW does not reset if they leave and return to the team. TWTW scores live in perpetuity, like the eternal flame in Arlington Virginia. This rule is also known as The Harold Baines Rule. TWTW and Game Winning RBIs were the two key metrics used by Jerry and Tony to shove Harold into the BBHOF. (21) Chicago White Sox TWTW Scores entering Spring Training 2024: 60 Michael Kopech (53-50 3) vs. (245-302 -57) 42 Jose Rodriguez (1-0 1) vs. (60-101 -41) 41 Dylan Cease (66-57 9) vs. (276-308 -32) 30 Touki Toussaint (7-12 -5) vs. (54-89 -35) 28 Deivi Garcia (0-6 -6) vs. (61-95 -34) 20 Sammy Peralta (3-13 -10) vs. (58-88 -30) 16 Korey Lee (6-18 -12) vs. (55-83 -28) 8 Jesse Scholtens (5-21 -16) vs. (56-80 -24) 0 Davis Martin (7-7 0) vs. (74-74 0) -3 Garrett Crochet (35-41 -6) vs. (156-159 -3) -10 Lenyn Sosa (19-44 -25) vs. (123-138 -15) -12 Yoan Moncada (341-393 -52) vs. (132-172 -40) -15 Luis Robert Jr. (181-193 -12) vs. (91-88 3) -18 Oscar Colas (23-52 -29) (38-49 -11) -26 Andrew Benintendi (59-92 -33) vs. (2-9 -7) -28 Andrew Vaughn (196-219 -23) vs. (40-35 5) -32 Jimmy Lambert (32-51 -19) vs. (238-225 13) -34 Tanner Banks (15-52 -37) vs. (127-130 -3) -36 Eloy Jimenez (205-236 -31) vs. (139-134 5) -71 Matt Foster (45-64 -19) vs. (165-113 52) -72 Gavin Sheets (127-172 -45) vs. (109-82 27) (19) Potential Chicago White Sox awaiting their first TWTW opportunity in 2024: 0 Prelander Berrora 0 John Brebbia 0 Josimar Cousin 0 Paul DeJong 0 Zach DeLoach 0 Shane Drohan 0 Jake Eder 0 Erick Fedde 0 Dominic Fletcher 0 Chris Flexen 0 Tim Hill 0 Nicky Lopez 0 Martin Maldonado 0 Bryan Ramos 0 Branden Shewmake 0 Jared Shuster 0 Michael Soroka 0 Alex Speas 0 Max Stassi (8) Former White Sox MLB Players in the Organization and or NRIs, but currently not on the 40-Man Roster: 34 Nicholas Padilla (0-3 -3) vs. (61-98 -37) 30 Lane Ramsey (8-13 -5) vs. (53-88 -35) 28 Edgar Navarro (1-7 -6) vs. (60-94 -34) 16 Bryan Shaw (13-25 -12) vs. (48-76 -28) 8 Zach Remillard (19-35 -16) vs. (42-66 -24) 4 Mark Payton (5-3 2) vs. (76-78 -2) 4 Carlos Perez (8-26 -18) vs. (134-156 -22) -3 Danny Mendick (79-72 7) vs, (202-192 10) (31) 2023 Chicago White Sox Players - The Departed: 184 Liam Hendriks (109-26 83) vs. (127-228 -101) Boston Red Sox 137 Aaron Bummer (158-136 22) vs, (315-430 -115) Atlanta 131 Alex Colome (65-24 +41) vs. (104-194 -90) Free Agent 101 Kendall Graveman (77-33 44) vs. (77-137 -60) Houston Astros 80 Lucas Giolito (79-85 -6) vs. (394-480 -86) Boston Red Sox 74 Joe Kelly (51-34 17) vs. (91-148 -57) Los Angeles Dodgers 63 Reynaldo Lopez (96-110 -14) vs. (376-453 -77) Atlanta 52 Billy Hamilton (46-28 18) vs. (108-142 -34) Free Agent 42 Keynan Middleton (20-19 1) vs. (41-82 -41) Saint Louis Cardinals 42 Clint Frazier (17-16 1) vs. (44-85 -41) Free Agent 40 Adam Haseley (21-21 0) vs. (121-161 -40) Free Agent 40 Hanser Alberto (15-15 0) vs, (46-86 -40) Free Agent 40 Mike Clevinger (12-12 0) vs. (49-89 -40) Free Agent 38 Jake Marisnick (4-5 -1) vs. (57-96 -39) Los Angeles Angels 34 Tyler Naquin (1-4 -3) vs. (60-97 -37) Free Agent 28 Trayce Thompson (41-51 -10) vs. (97-135 -38) New York Mets 26 Luis Patino (0-7 -7) vs. (61-94 -33) San Diego Padres 20 Lance Lynn (36-35 1) vs. (200-219 -19) Saint Louis Cardinals 20 Jose Urena (0-10 -10) vs. (61-91 -30) Texas Rangers 16 Gregory Santos (24-36 -12) vs. (37-65 -28) Seattle Mariners 14 Yohan Ramirez (9-22 -13) vs. (52-79 -27) New York Mets 5 Seby Zavala (81-95 -14) vs. (226-245 -19) Seattle Mariners 2 Jake Diekman (10-29 -19) vs. (132-153 -21) New York Mets -12 Romy Gonzalez (36-50 -14) vs. (199-201-2) Boston Red Sox -20 Brent Honeywell Jr. (15-25 -10) vs. (46-76 -30) Pittsburgh Pirates -26 Declan Cronin (1-8 -7) vs. (60-93 -33) Miami Marlins -28 Jake Burger (66-88 -22) vs. (169-163 6) Miami Marlins -30 Tim Anderson (419-483 -64) vs. (132-166 -34) Miami Marlins -33 Yasmani Grandal (171-192 -21) vs. (101-89 12) Pittsburgh Pirates -34 Elvis Andrus (59-96 -37) vs. (83-86 -3) Free Agent -77 Jose Ruiz (71-140 -69) vs. (333-325 8) Philadelphia Phillies

Every time you swing away, you take a piece of me, with you.

Hell hath no fury as Steve Stone scorned.

Welcome to the Show, Elko!

Happ up for the second time this inning. Katz finally out there. He was supposed to pitch one inning at 34 pitches with one out still elusive.

Ouch

For those who can't access twitter, or can't access sequential posts with the implemented Twitter changes between last season and this one. Elon is an asshole.

2024 is a fresh start for the Chicago White Sox and Chicago White Sox Fans. Let's Do This!!! Probable Starting Pitchers: RHP #60 Jesse Chavez (Age 40) vs, LHP #36 Jordan Wicks (Age 24) Forecast Weather: Partly Cloudy, High 79 F, NNE Winds 7 MPH Draft Kings Odds: Chicago Cubs -155 vs. Chicago White Sox +130 https://www.mlb.com/gameday/white-sox-vs-cubs/2024/02/23/748341/preview "Hope springs eternal in the human breast; Man never is, but always To be blest. The soul, uneasy, and confin'd from home, Rests and expatiates in a life to come." - Alexander Pope, An Essay on Man

State legislators are told how to vote by their party leaders who slate most of the election funding, and fund opponents if you don't obey. Perhaps not as top/down stringent as the Madigan decades, but still par for the course here. Then again, it's not much different from Congress in that sense.

I have supported all but a handful of players over the years. Teams are good, bad or mediocre, but nearly all try their best each season, and they didn't determine the payroll or assemble the roster. If I didn't like the players, not sure what the point was to follow the team or the sport in general. Older now, players are all children age at this point, so have reduced interest over time which I think is a natural progression for many fans. Just a nice Summer routine talking a long walk and listening to the game or enjoying while lounging around with a Summer breeze or perhaps watching with friends or family. Don't follow any of the other sports at this stage, don't miss them much. Anyway, really looking forward to listening to the game. Planned on trying to watch it and hear the new announcer but looks like cold and snow so Len and DJ on AM 1000 is the plan for this afternoon. Play Ball!!