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This report from local Fox states many people were fleeing the scene, and that Police requested the game be stopped, without further details. https://www.foxnews.com/sports/chicago-police-almost-completely-dispelled-shooting-white-sox-game-came-outside-stadium.amp Videos posted to X, formerly Twitter, showed some panicked stadium goers running away. Police wanted the game to be stopped after the shooting. Would like to have more facts or follow up regarding the second statement. Did Jerry or his minions actually tell the City / CPD no, we are not stopping the game? Or was this perhaps an initial request that was reversed by the police once they had additional information that this was an accidental discharge? I’m thinking the latter if the request is accurate.

Jerry could give a rats ass about fans, including their safety, established over three generations of White Sox fans. His ass was safe and sound in the owners box.

You are making a lot of assumptions about “nobody” doing this or that. TV only interviewed one fan, last name Miller, and he stated he heard a shot. Nobody else aired, but CPD and CWS likely had additional witnesses. The TV interview was also accurate when the reporter stated the suspected persons involved were escorted out of the stadium. They were taken to the hospital, not arrested. Those initial magic bullet reports were worse than the BS from the Warren Commission. The CYA CWS CPD statements offered minimal information. The White Sox were clearly lying when they stated it was unclear whether the shots were fired inside or outside the stadium, based on the statements from multiple CWS employees.

There is not much more they can do. They will need to have women at each gate if they are going to start groping / patting down people who continue to set off the metal detectors on multiple attempts. What about people with metal plates? They have limited options without turning off customers. They can’t have a TSA style system with cancer machines and the escalations those agents are able to get away with. And with the wages they pay, and the staff they hire, I don’t expect diligence to be thorough or long lasting once this blows over.

This. If they leave the city, they will be dead to me and most of the city. They also need to cease using our city name Chicago. This must be reserved for teams representing our actual city. This team has over two million fans wanting to attend and support the team each season. Jerry Reinsdorf sabotages interest time and again. Hire qualified competent people. Give them a proper budget. Stay the f*** out of the way. It’s that easy.

Consistent with reports yesterday that those involved were released from (or escorted out of) the stadium, as the perp and the woman she was with were transported to area hospitals. Far more likely than the magic bullet theory 2.0 from a mile away, especially if casings were found. Yep, the story verified by two White Sox sources. Have to believe her embarrassing FUPA "gun pouch" details will be left out of public reports, but hope someone files a FOIA request for the police reports. https://cwbchicago.com/2023/08/gunfire-that-injured-2-sox-fans-likely-originated-inside-ballpark-chicago-police.html

As I noted in the other Jerry wants another stadium thread, their agreement with the ISFA stipulates they are responsible for all aspects of security, and to review their security procedures with the ISFA every other month. White Sox obligations under the ISFA agreement: https://www.isfauthority.com/assets/management-agreement-with-all-amendments2.pdf (PDF Page 38-39) Team shall be exclusively responsible for the management and operation of the Stadium, including but not limited to the hiring of all security, crowd control... (PDF Page 52) Prior to the beginning of each Season (commencing with the first season in which Team plays in the Stadium), and every second month during each Season (or more often at . the request of either party), representatives of Team and Authority shall meet to: (i) Review Team's Routine Maintenance and security procedures, which shall be submitted to Authority prior thereto in writing by Team. Also, the City of Chicago have closed dozens of businesses via a Summary Closure Order, and should do the same with Comiskey Park if they continue to operate as a threat to public safety. They should also bill the White Sox for all the labor costs, CPD helicopter costs, and all other costs the city incurred to respond to their security lapse through the completion of their investigation. PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT - SUMMARY CLOSURE ORDINANCE https://directives.crimeisdown.com/diff/47426b1a721f7b6972f20f71db7954e772e090d1/directives/data/a7a57be4-14e02bcd-b2b14-e034-ffd9aa999cdf3f5b.html ELEMENTS REQUIRED FOR A SUMMARY CLOSURE ORDER The Public Safety Threat - Summary Closure ordinance gives the Superintendent the authority to act quickly to close a business establishment whose continued operation is determined to be a public safety threat. However a summary closure may be ordered only when ALL of the below elements are present: A. A violent offense occurs at the establishment 1. "Violent offense" means the illegal discharge of a firearm;.... 2. The violent offense takes place A. Inside the establishment. B. The violent offense takes place when 1. The establishment is open for business. C. A person involved in the violent offense has a connection to the establishment: The violent offense involves acts of the licensee/owner, or its employees, agents, or patrons.... D. Information is available to support a reasonable determination that continued operation of the establishment presents a public safety threat - including, but not limited to calls for service, case reports...

Well the police chief today stated they "almost completely dispelled" shots coming from the outside Friday evening. Would like to see the City and or State fine and sanction the White Sox for multiple instances of lax / no security this season, including the brawl in the left field stands that no security addressed during the entire 2 minutes plus. The State of Illinois needs to enforce their stadium agreement and ensure the White Sox adequately provide security for the ballpark. https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/what-we-know-about-chicago-white-sox-game-shooting-as-team-releases-video/3216297/ White Sox obligations under the ISFA agreement. https://www.isfauthority.com/assets/management-agreement-with-all-amendments2.pdf (PDF Page 38-39) Team shall be exclusively responsible for the management and operation of the Stadium, including but not limited to the hiring of all security, crowd control... (PDF Page 52) Prior to the beginning of each Season (commencing with the first season in which Team plays in the Stadium), and every second month during each Season (or more often at . the request of either party), representatives of Team and Authority shall meet to: (i) Review Team's Routine Maintenance and security procedures, which shall be submitted to Authority prior thereto in writing by Team.

Gone EVP Kenny Williams SVP Rick Hahn Christmas List: Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf SVP Brooks Boyer Asst GM Chris Getz Asst GM Jeremy Haber Coach Daryl Boston Player Mike Clevinger A new owner a CEO/President can properly assess next steps, personnel retention beyond these people.

Have to go a bit further, but bars still open after Jerry knocked down McCuddy's and Jimbo's closed. I've pre/post at Marz Brewery, Skylark, Puffer's/Mitchell's Tap Your shuttle idea is a good one, though they typically lock up the parking lots around an hour after the game, so they would need to figure that part out first.

https://www.wikihow-fun.com/Be-a-Troll Also, I consider High School and College Amateur Baseball. Not a fan of watching aluminum bat baseball, so don't like or follow, though I did go to my HS's 2006 State Championship Game (sadly Naperville Central 2 St. Patrick 0). I have played with wooden and aluminum bats for baseball and 16 inch back in the day. Too old to play at this stage.

That's the what the next hire will tell us. It's not that Chris Getz will be that much worse than XXX, though there is a good chance he would/will be. It's that Reindorf will continue grabbing the next guy in his organization, the same as he did after firing Himes and then Schueler, and there will be little to no change in their organization philosophy and management structure, swapping this unqualified Michigan grad for that unqualified Michigan grad, and Reinsdorf asking Chris Getz why he uses so many post it notes, or if he has stomach problems because he uses one roll of toilet paper more a month than Hahn.

I can confirm this is usually the case on the Blue Line as well - Portapotty, Weed, Cigarettes, Homeless (1/4 chance psychotic) Living Quarters. Used to be only Winter Time, now it's a permanent fixture since government "science" lockdowns. Enjoying @TaylorStSox's posts, hope he "Wins The Day" today. White Sox South Side Baseball must be preserved.

Your troll game is weak my friend. It's a double elimination tournament, not a "regular season".

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I believe it's more for defense, since Sheets (or Eloy) shouldn't even own an OF glove.

They will tie the series if they hold on, but it's nice to see they have shown life in two straight games. They will be 3-3 .500 in the Chris Getz era with a win today. They finished decent last year as well, going 18-16 under Miguel Cairo.

He might be able to pitch, but there is no evidence any other MLB team wants him or Bauer at this point. Looked at MLB scores and followed Yoan's at bat on Gameday. Now up to .669 OPS. I believe he will finish over .700 if he's healthy to close the season. Tim Anderson 2-4 today.

The one way this time is potentially different is Jerry has had inbred sycophants in place for over 3 decades. He is 87 and may not want or soon may not be able to interfere in the day to day as he had in the past. If he brings in someone he knows and trusts, like a Kim Ng or someone else we might not be aware of, they will have a better chance at bringing in meaningful operational change that an internal candidate who sat there nodding to KW and RH like Getz cannot. If Getz is the guy, then I am not going to waste any time following the day to day until Jerry is dead or a vegetable no longer running the team, because there won't be any significant operational change. If they bring in an external candidate not named Tony La Russa (or one of his cronies like Dave Stewart), then there is credible chance of a change in they way the White Sox conduct their business, I don't believe everything can or will change, but enough substantial changes that don't upset Jerry, primarily having competent people draft, develop and analysts, would go a long way. It won't guarantee instant or perhaps even near term success (see Bulls), but at least fans will have legitimate hope the Sox could perform a legitimate rebuild and in 3-4 years see what they thought/hoped they would see to start this decade.

Yes, Block 78 is no longer available. The only feasible spot it might work downtown is the old post office sitting empty forever and adjacent land on the west to the Kennedy. Beyond lack of core Sox fans near AH being an issue, adequately staffing the thousand plus mostly minimum wage jobs in that area would be difficult. The public transportation options and location with the current stadium is very important for accessibility of stadium game day staff (ushers, ticket takers, vendors, food prep, custodians, etc). There are very limited public transportation options in AH. Could struggle through 10 games a year, but 81 would be a stretch. They have trouble filling positions as it is with low crowds.

Not for someone experienced, since this has a strong possibility of being a short term opportunity based on Jerry’s age, one of the oldest owners in sports (with Virginia). Still would be attractive to someone at the assistant GM level who had reasonable assurances they could make most baseball decisions without interference. If they had to go through Jerry like the previous group for seemingly any trade / free agent decision of consequence, then it’s not an attractive position, and they are only going to get guys like Dayton Moore types or internal guys without other options. Joe Espada saw the mess here, had the patience to turn down the managerial job and wait for a better situation. Similarly positioned GM candidates (widely known and coveted) would also likely not be interested if they didn’t feel they had the authority to run the organization in an optimal way (be stuck with Pedro and other coaches or FO staff, not have autonomy to revamp analytics, scouting, development, coaching staffs or sign free agents independently within a reasonable budget, etc.).

$50 bills are bad luck, but I’d bet more with people I knew, could collect or pay directly. Determined via real evidence, not unsubstantiated statements either in a cop or Sox message board (by me or others) or BS CYA follow up statement(s) without court worthy evidence issued by the White Sox or CPD/City. Without a visible altercation / fight, which one witness stated but no further evidence has yet emerged, the likely explanation at this point is an unintentional discharge of a concealed weapon brought in by the person in their group or immediately adjacent, based on the limited video and witness statements. Puts the Sox in a bad spot as it exposes a breech in their security / metal detectors, and also opens up potential lawsuits by the victims if it came from another group within the stadium. On the flip side, if Sox/CPD quickly determined the persons shot were due to an unintentional discharge, it did make it reasonable to continue the game and conclude fans were safe. They responsibly blocked off the few sections to allow police work, and cancelled the concert to allow police to conclude their work without interruption, in a lit ballpark (lights would have gone out for the concert / fireworks),

What station? As is this one. Far more plausible explanation than magic bullet(s) from 8 + blocks away striking two people, let alone at least one witness on record hearing shots in the park. Pristine Magic

Pedro better watch out or Tony is going to fire him too. Unwritten Rules Uber Alles