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  1. OK, I saw a corresponding article that clarifies it. Cot's contract didn't say $4M due regardless, just said buyout which typically means a club declining for a mutual option. The Clevinger scenario is deferred compensation, $8M 2023 and $4M guaranteed in 2024, plus a $8M contract if both sides want it, which rarely if ever would happen (either he would want more or he sucks / is injured and the Sox would want out. In either case, it is not the same as a player only option or a team only option. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jaredwyllys/2023/08/29/mike-clevingers-mutual-option-in-play-with-the-white-sox/ The 32-year-old signed a one-year, $12 million contract last off-season with a built-in mutual option for next season that includes a $4 million buyout if either side chooses to part ways.
  2. No, Pollock's was a player option, take the $5M buyout or $10M contract. 23:$10M player option ($5M buyout) Mike Clevinger & White Sox have a mutual option. Both agree = $12M 2024 Contract Clevinger accepts, Sox decline = $4M Buyout, Clevinger is an unrestricted 2024 free agent with $4M Clevinger declines = $0 exchanged, Clevinger is an unrestricted 2024 free agent with $0 due by his former team (Sox if unclaimed).
  3. No, it's mutual, so it doesn't vest if Clevinger says no. Clevinger Yes = $4M buyout or $12M 2024 contract Clevinger No = $0, he is an unrestricted FA.
  4. https://calltothepen.com/2022/09/05/new-york-yankees-universally-reviled-josh-donaldson/ Liam Hendriks likes just about everyone, except for his former teammate Josh Donaldson: https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/liam-hendriks-not-a-fan-of-ex-teammate-josh-donaldson/176661/ Josh Donaldson’s latest run-in raises difficult questions about just what kind of teammate he is https://nypost.com/2022/05/23/just-what-kind-of-teammate-is-josh-donaldson/
  5. No, but Jerry is not going to want someone back who pissed him off during the two (2020 and 2021-2022) owner lockouts to the point he ordered Hahn to play arbitration hardball over a rounding error ($50K). They are not competing and have no intentions of extending him (and the QO is a non factor after his trade) so there is no point.
  6. Speaking of scum, the Yankees released Donaldson. https://www.mlb.com/news/josh-donaldson-released-by-yankees
  7. Lucas was the union rep, Jerry would fire Getz before his regime formally started if Chris tried to claim him.
  8. Too bad Texas doesn't need a pitcher, probably wouldn't mind his baggage since they already traded for Chapman. Reds and Orioles could use a starter, probably too cheap to claim for $1.3M plus risking the $4M option. I do think a team may sign him in 2024 since he pitched well and there were no reported incidents this season. Maybe Kenny's buddy in Miami takes a chance, though they need to jump 3 teams at 2 1/2 games out.
  9. Elly has a Reds Flag, Burger's is Marlins Blue They all have hills to fly them on, except for Man Lee Soo Dressing up in costumes, playing silly games Hiding out in dugouts, shouting out rude names,,,,,,
  10. Not sure if MLB retired the Selig Rule when he did. Someone should ask, as if it's still in place, there was likely no other interviews or another sham Willie Harris type interview. https://sports.yahoo.com/news/baseball-teams-making-a-mockery-of-selig-rule-172438377.html
  11. Yes and Kenny calling Frank an idiot, and telling him to stay out of "White Sox Business". No need to say it, 99% of MLB wants to stay out of White Sox Business. Would also add locking Carlton Fisk out of the clubhouse in Cleveland so he couldn't say goodbye to his teammates, and then banning him from the clubhouse that October to wish his teammates well in the ALCS.
  12. Hear me now, believe me later. I should have added TV: Thom Brennaman & Glen Kuiper; Radio: WIND Amy Jacobson & Dan Proft / Pre & Post Mike Nort.
  13. None for Ricky Renteria either, was hired the day after Robin refused to return.
  14. I'd add these gems 1994 Break The Union Cancel White Sox vs. Montreal World Series Opportunity White Flag Original Stadium (Upper Deck, Dodger Seats, Facing The Robert Taylor Homes) Terry Bevington Robin Ventura vs. Nolan Ryan I was fine with Disco Demolition. Not a big Ozzie fan, but it was two games, not "mid-season" and he quit because Kenny went behind his back and his agreement and extended Don Cooper. To me, both were in the wrong and both should have been replaced
  15. I'm likely in the minority here, but I would like brining back Reynaldo Lopez and sign him for 1-2 years in the offseason.
  16. The previous positions were EVP and SVP. I believe the "one decision maker" is just a SVP spot, with no EVP position in the future. He's already paying Kenny and Rick through 2024. SVP GM Chris Getz & Asst GM Jeremy Haber the most likely combination, with Tony La Russa and or Dayton Moore as Special Advisors.
  17. I'd say this is largely accurate, won't necessarily move the needle much for 2024 season tickets. Jerry's media (NBCSN, sox.com) is going to praise it, or at least say let's give him a few years chance. Much of the Chicago media are worthless lapdogs like Bruce Levine, Hoping it's so bad the Tribune and Sun Times drop daily coverage. Front Office: SVP GM Chris Getz; Asst GM Jeremy Haber; Analytics Dave Duncan's Son; Senior Advisors Tony La Russa & Dayton Moore; Player Development Kenny Williams Junior Coaching Staff: Mngr Pedro Grifol; Bench Jim Foster; 3B Wes Helms; 1B & OF Daryl Boston; Infield Omar Vizquel; Pitching Curt Schilling; Bullpen John Rocker; Trainer Larry Nassar OD Lineup: C Y. Grandal; 1B A. Vaughn; 2B E. Andrus; SS A. Russell; 3B J. Donaldson; RF Y. Puig; CF O. Herrera; LF A. Benintendi; DH G. Sheets Rotation: T. Bauer; M. Clevinger; D. German; L. Lynn; D. Keuchel Bullpen: A. Chapman; R. Osuna; J. Cordero; J. Kelly; K. Middleton; B. Shaw; N. Padilla; J. Lambert;
  18. Everyone will have to handle it in their own way. I feel if people do not give Jerry a penny, at the games, via merchandise, via his garbage cable TV network, that's the only thing he gives a s%*# about. I boycotted for 13 years after the 1990 season, and boycotted a second time since the Tony La Russa hire. I went to one game this year with tickets from a friend that won a charity raffle, didn't spend a penny (I brought beer and food for tailgating), and won't until Jerry is no longer in charge. Not sure I'd return if Michael Reinsdorf takes over, they need new ownership and a completely new direction.
  19. Chris Getz hired Omar Vizquel. How did that work out? Domestic Violence - Check Molester of special needs bat boy - Check Chris Getz hired Wes Helms. How did that work out? Will have to check out court blotters to get more info, but it wasn't for baseball reasons.
  20. This page needs to stay on Page 1 throughout his tenure. I said last week that the Sox' record at the conclusion of the Oakland series would be the high water mark in his career as GM (3-3 .500). I believe the Sox will finish below .500 under his tenure, and if Jerry lives into the 2030s, he very well could challenge Rick Hahn for the worst GM record in White Sox history. This guy is less qualified than Rick Hahn, let alone Kenny Williams. Season ticket holders need to unite, contact their ticket rep, and tell them they are not sending in a penny until the FO situation is settled, and if Chris Getz or another internal crony is selected they are burning their season ticket invoice and using their money on something that is actually entertaining, not the s%*# Getz and the Sox will role out year after year after year. f*** you Jerry you piece of s%*#. From Jerry's pathetic pay cable channel: https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/white-sox-news/white-sox-head-of-baseball-ops-likely-to-come-from-within-organization-report/503836/
  21. Well it looks like I don't have to follow baseball anymore until Jerry is gone or Montreal gets an expansion team, whichever comes first. Looks like IDing the Comiskey Park shooter is the last relevant storyline to be determined in 2023. Jerry Reinsdorf - Still a Jive Turkey after all these years
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