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What's sad (so far) tonight is Floyd is kicking some ass, but like somebody suggested we have absolutely no momentum and actually may be on our heels, knowing we ultimately will lose because of all the wasted opps.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 8, 2011 -> 03:17 AM) You can see signs of AJ fading into becoming an even worse hitter than usual. His bat speed has diminished, and his power's gone with it. In the past, he had enough strength to hit it over the left fielders head. Now, even if he makes good contact to left field, it's playable for the outfield. When he tries to pull the ball, he's not quick enough to avoid rolling over on the pitch. It's what we saw the first few months last year until he finished up strong. Yeah, that's why I said earlier this year he now was Jason Kendall. If AJ would accept he's jason kendall and develop a stroke where he could stroke some singles then he wouldn't totally be worthless as he is now. Like you said he has no power. I was stunned he actually hit a home run the other day/week.

QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ May 8, 2011 -> 03:16 AM) Even in the short instances over the last 22 games the Sox have held a lead, it seems like the other team always has the momentum becuase we are constantly missing opportunities, or have an absolute piss poor effort inning at the plate and half inning is over in 2 minutes. Exactly.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 8, 2011 -> 03:14 AM) Aj was always at his best when every other at bat he'd flip the ball over the SS for a single, not on a line, just a near-bloop. Yeah. Oh for those days. He may be as bad as Kotsay now, wouldn't u all agree? He's abysmal.

AJ to me seems to be a pretty smart guy. OK, he must know that he at this point in time is probably the worst hitter in baseball. He knows he is slower than any ballplayer alive. He knows that he is a serious DP candidate there. So he hits it right at the ss for the easy DP. Now can't he just try to hit into a double play and then maybe he'll actually line a single? Can't he try, uh, something different?

All I can do is laugh again. I mean it's either that or go berserk mentally every single night.

Oh boy. Mr. DP is up

2 on nobody out. Whoopie. Let's make some hay for once guys.

Not to flame my man AJ, but is he the worse defensive catcher in the game now? I'd suggest he prolly is. How come Adam Dunn has no pop anymore? I'll take the bloop single. Of course now it's station to station with him.

By the way, that little pop fly ball that Pierre hit that couldn't score Beckham .... The Royals won their game on the same depth of a pop up, believe it or not. Pinch runner Dyson is THAT FAST. He was safe by the proverbial mile, too. No way we could have sent Gordon, but it shows you how much better other teams are than the White Sox. It was Aviles who hit the little pop and he is interviewed postgame as a hero for a shallow sac fly.

The AJ signing came right after Dunn, correct? That was one position we should have just let AJ go. Now it's going to end badly regarding him. He can't throw and can't hit and that is a lethal combination.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 8, 2011 -> 02:59 AM) Well, Pierre can't drive the ball into the OF and Morel made a typical rookie baserunning mistake on a softly hit ball? Can we just close this thread now before a total meltdown occurs? I guess there's no longer enough fans who care to spend their Saturday on White Sox baseball to even get upset. Now even Konerko's getting into the act with the error. This is almost incredible. Caufield I love you but you jest. You realize meltdowns are a daily occurrence and pretty much rightly so.

How can a team be this snakebit for so long? Are we that bad we can't EVER score when we have first and third and no out? Is this unprecedented?

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ May 7, 2011 -> 11:53 PM) I truly believe the Sox management is working under the assumption that Cleveland and Kansas City are not as good as they are bad. They believe those two teams will eventually tank and as long as they don't get too far behind the so-called elite teams of the division - Minnesota and Detroit, they could go on some extended win streak and be right back in the race. Operating under this kind of delusion has preventing them to from facing reality about the true state of their organization. That's all fine, except we can't beat the teams in our own division either. Haven't been able to for some time now. Ug. It's all so depressing having to be a negative fan all the time. I wish there was some light at the end of the tunnel. At least while we've sucked, the Hawks (last year) and Bulls (this year) are amazing. Tough to be greedy and want to win two title per year in Chicago.

Who could have projected all these guys would be major horses***? I think I have singlehandedly identified the biggest culprits to our horrendous five week opening that has ended the season on the Southside before it started. I mean can anybody on here say anything good about these guys? I mean I couldn't add Pierre. He actually has had some hits. Morel has been awful but he's no major factor either way. Some of the other relievers we expect to suck. But to you five guys mentioned ... thanks for ruining the season. I mean our starting pitching has been reasonable. Maybe even pretty good. But those 5 guys ... wow. I repeat .. can any of you say anything good about Dunn, Thornton, AJ, Rios and Gordon?? I cannot. And I added Oz and KW for intangible suckiness.

If we make it to .500 by the all star break, I think a parade would be in order. At least a Sox talk party to end all parties. Aint.Gonna.Happen. But if it did ... wow.

I didn't realize he has no walks. Maybe pitchers are coming rite at him believing he simply has no pop. I thought he'd have a good year.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 7, 2011 -> 07:44 AM) meh, they battled against a quality guy and nearly pulled it out. So if I read this thread correctly... The scouting is s***. The development is s***. The coaches are s***. The players are s***. The broadcasters are s***. The organization is s***. The prospects are all s***. The future is s*** s*** s***. Some of you guys should save bandwidth and just drive over to the Cell, drop trou and take a s***. You'll feel better. Scouting is s*** - I believe so, yes. Development is s*** - Definitely. Coaches are s*** - Uh, yes. Players are s*** - Yup. Broadcasters are s*** - Noppe; love them. Organization is s*** - Oh yes. Prospects are s*** - Not the ones we dealt. Future is s*** - Looks that way. We'll know more after the total firesale.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 7, 2011 -> 04:39 AM) Tonight was just an absoluteyl patetic display of managing by Ozzie. He's doing his best to force JR and KW to get rid of him. Why don't they just do it. The man will be fine. He can be a color analyst for the rest of the season and get another managing job at season's end. He will manage 40 years. Just won't be with us.

QUOTE (Cali @ May 7, 2011 -> 06:05 AM) They're not gonna lose 95+ games. They're gonna finish 82-80, 83-79 like always Never bad enough to get the #1 pick, never good enough to win the series (sans 05) always in the middle of the pack draft wise where they can never get that impact player, or they swing and miss and the impact player goes 4 picks after the Sox. Side note, if the Sox did ever get the #1 pick is there a doubt in anyone's mind they'd JaMarcus Russell it anyway? I think u are wrong this time. This is the year we lose, lose, lose. Look at how dead we continue to look. The M's, who are not a great team by any means, were all energetic, taking singles in the ninth to win it. The White Sox are a team with so many weaknesses it will be difficult to win any given night. This team will lose 95 games easy; I'd say over 100.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 7, 2011 -> 05:18 AM) The state of this franchise right now is frightening. A terribly bloated salary wise major league roster with flat-out bad, underachieving or past their prime guys. A deplorable minor league system that hasn't produced a f***ing thing in 10 years. Bad management, bad coaches, bad scouting, bad player development, etc (That was for you, Milk). Weren't the Blackhawks rated the worst pro sports organization a few years back? I think we're in the top 5 right now. You are correct, sir. This is the worst nightmare ever. I mean the season is over. Blow it up. What are they waiting for? I mean, seriously.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 7, 2011 -> 06:09 AM) Ozzie was expecting or playing for extra innings so he was saving Sale, Santos and Crain? LOL. Whatever, Ranger. Every loss at this point is just one more nail on the coffin. He should be managing every game like we're tied for the division lead with one week left in the season. The Indians finally lost another game...at this point, I don't want to trend neutral. Either we start making up ground or throw in the towel. I do believe the next 8 games will serve the ostensible purpose of defining itself as the final D.O.A. notice. Of course the next 8 games will do what you suggest. There's no way in hell this team is turning it around on a road trip. What are they waiting for in firing Ozzie? It's ridiculous. It's time. He's not going to manage the White Sox for 25 years like La Russa in St. Looie. Not gonna happen. It's unfortunate but that's the fact.

At least if they fire Ozzie there will be a different plot than we've seen.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 7, 2011 -> 05:58 AM) The biggest question is why Crain wasn't used in the 9th. Cause this horses*** start has screwed him up mentally. That's another reason he needs to be canned. He's grouping all these losses together and figures to go with Thornton since he looked like he was sort of "on." He's managing weirdly and must go for the betterment of the organization. Just fire him. What's the big deal? What's the holdup? Even Ozzie won't be surprised when he's canned. You better damn well believe Ozzie would be firing a manager off to this kind of start with this kind of payroll if he were GM.

I'd be willing to trade anybody at this point. I always resisted "rebuilding" but this team is going to lose 95 to 100 games I have no doubt about that so they might as well blow it up. This game was so predictable. Even in one where we play a fairly respectable game, you know the M's, given the final at bat, will win it with a run in either the eighth or ninth. But when we are at home, the last at bat never matters. Please fire some people and demote some players. This is unbearable.