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I just couldn't believe how badly he pitched against us before his ejection. He was horrible. And obviously he was horrible before that since he got demoted to the bullpen. I just don't think he's very good and when he's not very good he's also apparently a cancer. I'd pass on this guy at all costs unless Cubs pay all but 1 million of the contract. Even then his pitches still will scream, "HIT ME."

Wouldn't Derrick Lee be a good rental at DH? Or is he locked under contract a long time? Lee for two Class A players.

Sadly, there's talk in KC Greinke's shoulder is not right. WTF with pitchers? What is going on?

The question is what is good enough for Sox fans? Yes the payroll now is pretty decent, but if you have four or five stars, the payroll in a market like this means you will have a batch of inexpensive guys as well. My guess is you want division titles four of every five years and deep playoff runs as well, with a WS title, what, every 10 years? Five years? Is being the Minnesota Twins good enough for you? The old Atlanta Braves who won the division every year for 15 years or something? What are your expectations? My expectaitons for a still "small market" type team is about what is happening. Vie for a division title and hopefully have lightning strike in a bottle in the postseason as it did in 05. So what are your expectations?? My guess is many think we should run away with the division every year and at least make the ALCS every year. Good luck with that. Other teams want it too.

Life's too short to be mad over that kind of stuff. Don't worry. Be happy. Cmon Gavin!

Teahen is not a good outfielder.

I think it's what most fans do, at least in a message board forum. Just win, baby, and you shut everybody up.

Thing is, we're stuck seeing Teahen. Same deal as Linebrink. Sox are paying them so they got to be on the team. I wouldn't mind Teahen if he just replaces Kotsay and his at bats. Can't imagine Oz getting rid of Kotsay though. He appears to love him. Viciedo is the guy who is gonna get sent down though I wish it was Lillibridge if I had to pick between those two (I'm assuming Oz has to have Kotsay and Jones both).

Exactly. I'd hate to see Teahen trot out to third. It shows you how bad Kotsay is when the thought of Teahen taking his at bats is sort of appealing.

Proof again that people will go when they get a break on the amount of money it takes to go. A lot of South Siders are blue collar, baby. They can't afford the s*** ass modern day prices.

We really don't need both Teahen and Kotsay. Dump one of them, please.

19-1? Greinke gets shelled. Now those KC fans truly do have sumthin to b**** about. As far as our game. Man, John Danks is a stud. Lexi? Wow. Juan Pierre continues to shut me up. He's having a mediocre to halfway decent year. Wouldn't you give him a B? Nothin lower than a B-minus for sure. OK, maybe a C. Paulie bashing pretty many homers in the new non steroid era. Poor Beckham is struggling again. Great victory. Glad we are playing pretty well again at the Cell.

I guess it's partly because ticket prices, parking, food and beer prices are so high and players make so much money ... but patience is really slim these days. Just think if at your first big-time job your potential as a good worker was judged by your first couple weeks on the job ... Wow, good luck to you. Some people actually do improve, ya know?

He ought to keep playing til they rip the jersey off his back. Like Julio Franco. Great lifestyle. Easy money. If somebody wants him, he should for sure play.

Wow only a 12 page game thread. That's what happens when you win a clean game -- Just Win Baby stops all naysaying in its tracks fast.

Rock ... it seems like it's actually picking up steam. That's why I say it'd be a tough sell on the talk show circuit.

It'd be interesting how this conversation would play on the more popular talk shows in Chicago today and Ranger's post game show and/or Grobstien's (sp) late night show. As well as a national host like Rome or Patrick? Would the caller be laughed or mocked off the radio for suggesting Oz and KW actually be fired today? Would you be confident in presenting your case to the general masses? Would the discussion be reasonable or would you be belittled? I'm just wondering if the discussion on here would play out with the masses of fans who listen to the radio and attend games? Would you be confident bringing this up in a public forum, because it would be easy for the host to dismiss the caller off with the host saying, "Sir, this team is in first place! and recently went 25-5."

It's be interesting to hear/read how many games Kotsay and Jones have been truly instrumental in us winning the game and how that compares to Thome last year. I'm just curious more than anything ... and how many games Kotsay started and of those starts how many he could be credited as "contributing to the victory." As well as how many losses his at bats proved to be him being the obvious goat.

Elgin Slim, that's a good post and kind of scary. Sounds as if Hudson may not have "it."

I'd be all for Dayan as the regular DH since Oz worships (maybe rightly so) Omar. But it's simply not going to happen because Oz worships Kotsay and to a mildly lesser extent, Jones as well. You guys have the right to complain about it, but I don't see the point since it's not happening as long as Oz is the manager. It's like complaining about the weather IMO. I would think if and when Teahen returns then Dayan will be shipped down. Unfortunately that scenario would culminate a baffling season for Dayan. Cup of coffee up here with not a lot of playing time, instead of playing regularly all the way through. Our 1-2 punch of Juan and Omar doesn't thrill me, but it's been that way a while and we are in first place thanks in part to their defense. My two cents. GO SOX.

Is the Kotsay hate ballooning? For once it's a guy I also dislike greatly. I don't think the nights I've watched I've ever seen him lash a hit. Lot of ground outs and some line outs to the shallow outfield. Couple warning track outs.

Do you want Brian Bannister? He's available. I don't, but would he be a good mop up middle man? Like the Pena role? Royals probably want a real body for him, though.

Bucket of suck is one great moniker on here. It is hilarious. I still smile when I see that name. As far as Hudson, have some patience, luckily we're still in first place. Start three should be huge for him. I hope he gets it together. Freddy's last horrific outing was alarming. Hope he can come back strong.

With all due respect, you should get a warning letter as I did. But I like your posts and your passion. Cool post, Pumpkin. You rock. Good points, sir.

I'm not gonna pile on, but I'd be gone right now if I said that. I know cause I've already gotten my watch out letter and even the response was the kind of response I think I've been getting yelled at for. I really am not trying to be a prick in my defense of Bobby, folks. I think if you went out for a beer with me you would actually like me. Or dinner at my favorite Mexican restaurant here. Lemme know if any of you are ever in my area.