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Well I did tonight, Kalapse. Must have overlooked it in my anger, before.

Great great victory. Even you Jenks haters are getting what you wish from Bobby, who apparently can pitch well even without the support of Soxtalk. He's blowing people away. My god, even the most proud of you ... give him his f***ing props. Kalapse gave him his props. The rest of you are insane (just kidding, don't ban me).

I didn't explain it well but I meant Stone saying how ridiculous it is for Oz to have him here if he's not playing. I guess the rip could be of KW or Oz or both depending on the facts. It's growing apparent he still should be in the minors if he's going to get Nix-like playing time.

Judging from the nice DP he turned the other day, I'd take Viciedo right now. And give Omar starts at third two days a week and starts at second for hitless Beckham 2 days at second. Viciedo needs to play 5 of every seven games or it's worthless ruining his progress up here.

If we are 8-9 out at the all star break don't you think KW will still trade AJ to a contender? I think so. If we are 4 out I guess we stay with AJ and then deal him for nothing this offseason.

I agree 100 percent. Should be interesting to see Stone's take on this one. Doesn't he need to show some balls and attack Ozzie on this one like he attacked Lou? At least there should be some article explaining Oz's use of Viciedo. There probably has been one and I missed it.

I'm at the point I expect to see 0-for-4 in the box score for Beckham and 1-4 is a mild pleasant surprise. He's been that bad. At least he's working on his defense at a new position in the big leagues during his season from hell. He seems pretty decent at second in the games I've watched.

Will Viciedo be the downfall of Ken or Oz? It's obvious Kenny didn't even consult Oz before bringing him up. Isn't it apparent Oz remains in love with Omar and Viciedo will not play? This will further strain the 2's relationship. Will they be headed for more fights?

Now if you want to talk Wise, I'll talk Wise. I loved that guy. As far as Teahen, I have to back Kenny on this one. You can roll out different stats, but just watching Teahen, he is one of the worst third basemen in modern history. He is horrific at third. And he's not a good outfielder by any means. Royals fans were thrilled he left town. But why argue. This is one of these eye test arguments. Kenny obviously is sick of the thought of seeing Teahen play another game here, just like many of you couldn't stand the thought of Wise being on the team. I think many of us would be fine if Teahen was a utility guy the next 10 years for us. Play once a week max. WC Sox has presented some good stats how Teahen was actually OK compared to other guys' performances. But in the final analysis many just puke at the thought of Teahen.

It'd be nice to see Paulie get rewarded. When we sucked big time earlier this year he continued to say all the right things to the press and has always been first class. But I still think Rios will be the only one.

Are you crazy? Do you know how long I've been here? I'm not trying to get a rise out of anybody. I think supporting Jenks and Ozzie may be unpopular, but my arguments for them are at least reasonable. I remember supporting Paulie heavily a couple years ago as well and that wasn't popular at the time and it seems to me everybody's back loving Paulie again. I mean I can discuss other topics besides Oz and Jenks if you like. Start a new thread.

I never thought this team was capable of a significant win streak. Great job except for Liney.

What has been excruciating about his saves? Seems to me he's been pretty damn good.

I said my apologies if you didn't mean it. I still say when he blows his next save and that is coming one of these days you should all resist the temptation to rip the guy. I mean he's been automatic for some time now. Show some perspective.

What does that mean? You guys are at the point you want Bob to fail so I look bad? Or was this a joke? If it was, my apologies. I mean Liney is a piece of crap and that's all on KW. Oz has to use the guys who are here. Jenks comes in and faces one batter. The guy is AMAZING. Why can't you see it?

And if Peavy had blown it in the ninth you wouldn't have ripped Oz a new one for not taking him out??? My guess is Oz would have been crucified having Jake go nine with the fluid on shoulder. Oz can't win, but he doesn't care. He's making HUGE money.

Great post, Shakes. How can anybody disagree with what Shakes wrote??? Ozzie is da man. I'm gonna go have a spangles strawberry shake in honor of shakes.

OK, my bad on the why not move on. It is a thread. But you act like Oz failed the team that day and the fans. He failed nobody. The Sox got the W. There is no proof Paulie and/or Rios would have excelled. There is no proof the day off helped them excel on Sunday. The FACTS are we won both games. Oz deserves huge credit for both victories.

You guys who first guessed or second guessed ... that's fine. But with all due respect your right to first guess or second guess was erased when Oz won the game. You continue to harp on that game and we won. Oz won. You guys lost this argument because Oz and the team won the game; why not move on? Is he being graded on style points, margin of victory?

Sorry about the misspelling Sqwert but it's just a nickname. You could spell Gregg like that and I don't care. It's just taking this to a new low I feel second guessing a lineup that won the game. And Sqwert you haven't answered why you are so worked up about a 1-0 victory. Is it that you were uncomfortable the whole game or ? We won man.

Squert are you personally offended we only won 1-0? Did you watch the entire game and sob because we didn't score 4-5? Our lineup has sucked with Paulie and Rios in it as well. Were you so convinced we were going to win 8-0 with Rios and Paulie or one of the two you couldn't enjoy the game? I don't understand the problem here. It was a good game and the White Sox won and they won again the next day. What is the problem here? I don't get it.

The man Oz said Rios needed rest and Paulie a day off. How do you know if they played and again on Sunday they'd have sucked and we'd have lost one or both games??? We got a run. We won. And the next day we excelled.

I did that because a.) I didn't think we were capable of sweeping anybody on the road this season and b.) for the reverse jinx. I figured my statement would be a reverse jinx and we'd win all 3.

It's results that matter. We won. Ozzie left Peavy in to finish it. I'm sure some would have fried Ozzie had Peavy blown it in a scary ninth. "How can he leave him in with a bad shoulder?" "What is Ozzie trying to do to Peavy?" "You've got Thornton for god sakes. Why did he leave in Peavy???" Oz gets the final laugh. He is rich and can deal with absurd second guessing after victories. My gosh. Do some realize what they sound like complaining about wins? I need Rongey's take on this.

Not on here. To second guess after a victory is negativity that does not compute with me.