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I'm not saying they will compete as I have a hard time believing, but anytime it's less than a 7-game deficit like now, I won't call anybody crazy for thinking the Sox still have a chance.

I did doubt the Sox's ability to sweep anybody, but I also believe in the reverse jinx as you know. Notice I never say anything outlandish predicting wins in a positive way. That said, there is no way our s***ty lineup can hit the rookie phenom tonight. We stand NO CHANCE.

I think a lot of us are cautiously optimistic as we creep closer to .500. But we also wouldn't be shocked (how could we be?) if the team immediately loses 5 of 6 and is back to s***sville. I will say that as OF TODAY I give Kenny and Oz and the pitchers a lot of credit for not giving up. AS OF TODAY.

Gordon Beckham could have easily won rookie of the year last year. He smashed hit after hit, many in the gaps. He was not rushed. I think many of us are wondering the same thing ... will Viciedo play enough to warrant picking up in fantasy?

Juan! I can admit I was wrong. I became a Juan backer after he got the hit against the Cubs (yes we would have been no hit without that base hit; nobody else stood a chance in the ninth) and he continues to prove the doubters like me wrong. In a similar vein ... many of you can't admit you have been similarly WRONG regarding Bobby f***ing Jenks! He remains a prominent closer and yet so many are ready to lynch him after he inevitably blows a game one of these days. Whoever put this when Jenks entered the game in the game thread, it's not funny to me and I don't appreciate what the post stands for: "Alvarez swinging the invisible bat. Jenks time...greg gets his vaseline and tissues ready." That is not appreciated. I am not gay have never been gay. I am a White Sox fan who supports Bobby Jenks! I can't believe some Sox fans hate their own. It baffles me.

I'd say it will remain about the same in both. This team is what it is. It's already made it's personality.

Considering how lousy the batting averages are, it is simply amazing we are four back of .500. This is where we usually nosedive back to eight or so under. Can the team keep creeping upward?

I'd have never believed this team would be sniffing .500. If it reaches .500 the city should hold a parade. I wonder if Kenny is in Pitt because it was publicized this week he hasn't made a road trip yet, to avoid Oz. That again threatened his manhood in this battle of egos. Think that's why he went? He immediately goes on a road trip after articles say he's not been on one cause of Oz.

Just when you think he and/or Beckham are going to break loose they go back to s*** like Gordon did tonight. Weird.

How did the pitchers in the old days throw so many pitches and have long careers? Seems like the modern starting pitcher is very brittle.

We will not sweep this series. No way. The White Sox do not sweep series. I don't need to take pressure off Ozzie. He's not going anywhere. Besides he's rich and not sharing any of his money with me. I simply am an Ozzie fan. Fans who want him gone are dreaming. He will leave when Jerry says so and that is never. He's a badass and doesn't need anybody trying to take pressure off him. When he leaves someday he will leave kicking and screaming.

What if Beckham uses tonight as a springboard and actually gets hot? That would be nice. He could still recover and hit .260 this season if he got red hot.

Question for you Jenks haters: When he next blows a save are you going to completely ride his ass, when you've given him NO credit for his saves? That's ridiculous if you ask me. Pretty f***ing sad. It's like some of you don't want him to succeed and when he succeeds we win.

Great win. I take credit for Beckham's performance (joke). My second baseman got hurt in fantasy and I had to pick one up and it was either Beckham or some other non producers and I picked up Beckham. Get hot now, Gordon! Bobby Jenks. Believe in him. He is still the real deal.

Ha. Keep writing posts like this one ... nonbelievers in Bobby!

Can we please get some love for you know who???? Yes, Bobby!!!

Thanks very much for the explanation. That is very interesting and I respect your professional opinion that he could have done some things to maybe prevent the severity of it. I also like the fact you said he's far from alone in ignoring the problem cause at times the back feels better. It's a shame. Why do you think my friend at 30 needed simple back surgery and he wound up using a cane? Was the doc a butcher or do things happen?

Alex Rodriguez is one of the greatest hitters of all time. I don't even think his name should be brought into this. I thought Beckham had great gap power and decent speed and people surely thought he would whack 20 or more dingers a year as well. I think that's better than the average Mark Grudzalanek second baseman. And the White Sox moved him for Mark Teahen which is about the dumbest decision in franchise history.

What? I thought everybody believed Gordon was going to be a doubles hitting machine and not a good but a great player? Not a journeyman run of the mill second baseman. All the love for Beckham on here and throughout baseball and he would just be an average third baseman in terms of gap hitting production? I also thought he had some pop in his bat he'd hit some home runs. He was the beloved high draft pick. You are saying a guy drafted that high was just going to be an average third baseman talent? And Mark Teahen is a GOOD third baseman talent? It was the wrong decision to replace Beckham at third with Mark Teahen.

OK, educate me some more on this. Are you saying Joe specifically contributed to his own injury? What am I missing here? I never read anything like Joe could have prevented his problems. I always thought as a baseball player who takes a zillion swings a day in the cages and bends over to field grounder after ground, s*** happens to the back. You said "it was his fault he had a back injury." I find that a little harsh. If you are a medical professioal you are blaming the patient for incurring an injury? WTF? And I didn't know fathom was kidding. It sounded like a backhanded rip of Joe and it wasn't in green. I see no problem defending these guys even on a meaningless in the big scheme of things message board.

I don't think it's wrong to defend a WS hero when somebody is mocking him for what? Having a bad back. It's not his fault he has a bad back. What's wrong with sticking up for a hero? The World Series is uh, a big deal.

I agree. I thought it was a horrible decision to move him from third where he seemed acceptable to above average. By the end of the year, he was making all routine plays it seemed to me and even some decent stabs of shots down the line, etc. I would hope all would agree making Teahen our starting third baseman really really hurt our team. He's a lousy fielder and backup type hitter.

I assume this is a joke. I would think it was. Since it wasn't in green ... Crede didn't ask to have back trouble. I hope you never have back trouble. I have a friend who needed back surgery and the doctor f***ed it up and he has to use a cane at the age of 34. Crede didn't ask for his back to fall apart. If Crede was a Cub, he'd be like Santo to their fan base. He was a KEY FACTOR in us winning it all. Cubdom would worship him.

No, I don't see a problem with it. KW has the power to make trades. I guess KW was nice enough to consult Oz in the offseason, maybe even under Jerry's orders to do so. Why would this be a problem? KW probably has and should have the authority to make personnel moves; Oz makes the lineup, etc., and basially stays away from Kenny except when he's really pissed like after the draft. So you guys at least agree with my take on this? I thought you might disagree.

In our dysfunctional organization, only Jerry is Ozzie's boss. It's pretty obvious Oz has never treated KW like his "boss." KW has no power over Oz; never has and never will. I would think everybody would agree Jerry "likes" Oz more than KW. I'd go so far as to say Oz is ahead of KW on Jerry's depth chart. That's pretty apparent. KW is Oz's boss only in KW's mind IMO.