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Who the hell is going to replace him? Who do you want in the closer role? I could go through all our candidates and rate why I think Bob is better, but I won't. Who do you want? Closer by committee or Matt? Dotel?

It has to be maddening to be KW right now. He probably thought after the Rays series we were ready to compete big time the rest of the way. Then this. We could win Sunday but you've got to love the Tigers' odds. They are going to be loose and ready to pounce on us. Five back in the loss column heading into the dome? We rarely win in the dome. We better find a way Sunday, then really compete in Minnie. Depending on how detroit does while we're in Minnie, we could be buried in a hurry. Sell mode would be interesting.

Baseball is so strange a game. We suddenly could really go into a tailspin with the dome looming, then New York.

Our bullpen is a shambles. Four back in the loss column with Tigers playing so loose on Sunday going for the sweep. Hard to believe we haven't won a game this series yet. Man there are no words to describe what's gone on in Detroit after the perfect game.

We do need some runs. How bout a one-out walk by CQ, bloop hit by Getz or ph and double by Beckham?

Great matchup; Granderson is a stud.

I would suspect Linebrink may have earned some time on the pine. My guess is our new reliever Pena will be getting the more important set up work until if and when Pena fails. Hopefully our new reliever will be the answer for a while. Oz has gone to Linebrink a lot lately, pre all star game and after. He's been consistently sucking and Oz eventually gives up on you, at least for a while. We shall see.

Man one day later we are three out in the loss column. Really if you ever could predict a "letdown" day this would be it. Hitting the road to play a DH after the perfect game celebration and the very emotional series with the defending AL champs in which we won 3 of 4. It cried letdown. That said, we got to win one of the next two and leave town three back in the loss column, five out would not be good and we'd effectively gotten Detroit back on track after the Seattle series.

Why? Please explain. I think Obama's love of the Sox is helping pub the team when things go well. He truly is a Sox fan and has given us big time pub with the all star game jacket and the phone call to Mark and comment to the press Mark owes Wise a steak dinner.

Our bullpen is definitely looking shaky. Maybe Linebrink should be shut down, sent down for a while. He definitely appears in trouble. Thornton is sometimes untouchable, sometimes wild. DJ is not so good as he showed before the all star break. Obviously Oz has little confidence in Dotel right now. And we know about Bobby of late. Trouble in the pen. I wonder what the solution is.

I think that'd be a proper response to those who like to yell stuff. I have no problem with that. The other response would be to walk out in silence, shaking one's head. To those who say you have the right to boo cause you pay good money. Nobody is denying that. To those who say all big leaguers should be prepared to be booed, nobody's denying that. What the non booers are saying is Jenks doesn't deserve it and it makes our fan base look very stupid and can do nothing positive to help his confidence the next time. Our fan base apparently is the same as Philly/NY, etc. We boo our No. 25 player and one of our best players. Dumb. p.s. Let's say Mark gets rocked his next four home starts and just plain sucks. We boo him, right? It's stupid to boo.

Good stuff, sweatpants. I tried to envision that. Funny.

A split truly would be nice. It would be great to win the DH somehow and vault ahead of them in the standings. That might shock Detroit into being the mediocre team we know they should be.

The replay has Wise just plain sprinting after the ball immediately. Like it was fate. What would Pods have done on the play? We know what many say BA woulda done; what about Pods?

Fair enough, thunderbolt. We are different kind of posters/fans. Difference of opinion. I prefer to copy Hawk who said it was one of the greatest catches he's seen in 50 years of baseball and leave it at that for at least one day. Hawk didn't add a comment, 'And that helps make up for the lousy year Wise has had to this point." It just seems some excellent moments should stand on their own with no qualifiers. To me it's like you give him is due, then "Yeah, but ..." I'll stop now.

I loved the hug. Mark B hugging Wise. Precious moment in Sox lore. Thunderbolt, are you this harsh in real life as well or just message board land? I ask all sane people to study your comment above. It's a crazy sentiment to me. You say you always will remember the moment, it'll be etched in your mind forever, yet I still sense some negativitity toward Wise. Why can't you just leave it with the nice part of your comment like Hawk saying: "I'd say because of the circumstances one of the greatest catches I've seen in 50 years of baseball." Hawk didn't add, "and by the way, Wise has pretty much stunk other than this inning this year." He left it at that. Why couldn't you? -- This is worth a discussion. Are you guys surprised Oz made the defensive move? Thank God he did. No way Pods catches that ball. At least I don't think Pods catches that ball. Two questions: Did you agree with Oz putting in Wise for Pods superstition and all? And also, if Wise goes up strong and drops the ball and it's ruled a hit obviously, do you think we'd all be calling for Oz's head for sending down Anderson, and all the Anderson stuff dredged up? Second guessing goes both ways. Would any of you have reamed Wise for the drop and Oz/KW for sending down Anderson if the ball plops out?

Good story, Mr. Costanza. Also the above came from yahoo.com. Amazing how he's blossomed. You would think all 38th round type pitching prospects would copy Mark's style. Work fast. He's a pleasure to watch pitch even the rare days he doesn't have it.

Yes. It's Bobby Jenks who has a serious track history of excellence. Somebody said his erratic month makes the booing understandable. Give me a f***ing break. How do "normal" fans react at the Cell when the few morons boo? I'd guess those who boo are drunk so probably not much is said lest you get punched. Show some loyalty and class. Bobby blows a save at home, we lose. So you can just exit the ballpark sad and quiet, shaking your head. Why boo him? I guess tonight one more base hit and Matt gets booed as well.

If this has been discussed, by all means kill the thread. I haven't scoured all the Bobby threads. But boos? I mean, my god. People booed Bobby after the Rays' game? I know people pay good money, but at what point do people give these guys a break? Oz's quotes were great. Too bad there's not another way fans can express bitter disappointment. It used to be you shut up and walked out the stadium sad. Booing Bobby this year and Paulie last year is dumb. Maybe Oz was overreacting or were the boos really loud for Bobby?

I really really like Alexi and it'd hurt to lose him. I really would like him to be a Sox for a long time and if we need a starter just find another way. What did the Cubbies give up for Harden last year? Top top prospects? I forget. Please keep Lexi.

I was thinking the saem thing. Amazing series.

Great victory. Wow on Matt Thornton. Nice job. Obviously Longoria coulda gone deep and made it a nightmarish loss. He didn't thanks to Matt. ps. I love Pods and his contributions tonight and almost every night, but do you guys feel a lot less comfy with him out there in the ninth in vast centerfield? I really think there is a need for a defensive cf specialist in baseball. And that's you know who in our ogranization. Maybe I'm wrong, but are you guys a little queasy with Pods out there, especially late in the game.

I agree it'd be nice for Bob to get some time off. You just know if he came in tonight it woulda been a repeat. At least I feel that way. I heard some guy on TV say he thought all pitchers should be DLed once in a long season. To rest.

What can you say except wow?

This is gonna be intriguing. Obviously if the leadoff man gets on we're in a big heap of trouble. The Rays in many ways gave this game away. We need to aggressively put them away!