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I think he deserves 16 million this season.

Not to be a jerk, but anybody but James Shields. So I voted for Miggy.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 12, 2018 -> 05:35 AM) http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/11/politics/tru...ttom/index.html Trump hits the rock bottom of his presidency (so far) Mia Love (R-Utah and Haitian-American) The congresswoman, one of the few Republican lawmakers who called out Trump, continued: This behavior is unacceptable from the leader of our nation. My parents came from one of those countries but proudly took the oath of allegiance to the United States and took on the responsibilities of everything that being a citizen comes with. They never took a thing from our federal government. They worked hard, paid taxes, and rose from nothing to take care of and provide opportunities for their children. They taught their children to do the same. That’s the American Dream. The President must apologize to both the American people and the nations he so wantonly maligned. Too bad we can't fire Donald for his remarks. Saying other countries are s***holes would be fireable offenses if you or I tweeted that. We'd be representing our companies and bye bye. Don is representing all of us but we can't fire him. That'd be a cool question at the press briefing of his spokesperson and/or right to Donald. It's a fair question. Mr. Trump should you be fired for your remark? Would you fire one of your employees of a business or your TV show for such a remark?

Barry Hinson continuing on at SIU. ... Yay or nay?

Just read a juvenile article in USA Today begging for Oprah to run. If it is an Oprah-Trump battle is it time for all "real" politicians to give it up forever? I mean cmon, if we have an all Hollywood battle for president next time, we might as well switch to a King/Queen system of government. How bout Biden folks?? A real candidate. I assume Trump is running, but if not, how bout some young up and coming Republican politico. There must be one somewhere who is not a clown. The Oprah story was high school-ish in terms of how it was written. How beloved she is and how her being a billionaire doesn't matter cause as talk show host for 20 years she helped so many people. I'll take Oprah over Trump but cmon, what has our political system come to? Could Biden or Bernie beat Oprah for the Democratic nomination or would they get buried? Probably buried.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Jan 12, 2018 -> 02:53 AM) When has Abreu ever hit when it matters? Great rookie campaign. Since then, he constantly craps the bed when the sox are in the playoff hunt.once they are out and the pressure is off, he hits again. He had the best year of his career (minus his rookie year, but the league figured him out and adjusted to him after tgat) when the sox were clearly tanking and had no expectations. Add that to his poor defense, and you get a massively overrated player around these parts. DA uses this logic to hate on soria, but he would never do it to his boy Abreu Ron, he was not being serious in his ripping Abreu, but you are being serious. What player in Sox history has had the numbers consistently that Abreu has put up? He's been so consistent it's scary. He's a great hitter and a stupendous clubhouse guy yet fans on here would get rid of him in a minute if we could get more prospects. Prospect means you ain't done it yet.

That's cool the thread is reopened. It proves there can be dissent on soxtalk. Dick Allen and I are not fans of Soria it is apparent.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 07:57 PM) And you wonder why people think you're a troll. Stop trolling, and maybe people will stop calling you a troll. And FYI his peripherals aren't very good, which is why he's a 5th starter on a one year 4.5 million dollar deal. Best case the Sox flip him for a lotto ticket in July. I wasn't trolling. I was sarcastically making a point that I'm not thrilled about bringing back Miguel. I think we're still allowed to moan and groan a bit on here. It's been a while since Sox have made a move I've loved, simply loved. I wasn't really into drafting Burger and we know how I feel bout Soria, etc. QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 08:01 PM) Greg, parking is $20. Only $10 on Sundays though. At least it's not 22 dollars. You can flip them a 20 spot and be on your way. I think parking at a major sporting event should be 10 bills. No more. I realize that's dreaming but any more is an insult to my wallet.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 05:29 PM) I read where Shields was in line to start on Opening Day. Probably the worst opening day starter the White Sox have thrown out their since Jaime Navarro. Miguel is OK by me. How were his peripherals before I decide whether he's good or not. I don't despise him or anything. As far as Shields/Opening Day. Geez. If he pitches Opening Day it's telling the world and our fans: "The White Sox wish to tank one more season. Please bear with us as we tank. And please enjoy your 25 dollar parking and 10 dollar beer. We are allowed to charge that while giving you James Shields one more season before we get good. That is all."

Avi is very likeable. I hope he continues to have seasons like last year because it would be a pleasure for me to continue rooting for him. He's definitely one of my favorite Sox players in recent memory because of his continuing to improve and turning himself into a helluva hitter. He roped the baseball last year. Hope he keeps it up not just to prove haters wrong but because his improvement should inspire other players who emerged at a still young age after putting in the work! Cheers to Avi.

So far the celebrity candidates. ... -- The Rock and Tom Hanks ticket. Saturday Night Live skit. -- Oprah. -- Trump. Others who should run if we're doing the celebrity thing. ... -- One of the Baldwins. -- Meryl Streep -- Rush Limbaugh -- Jesse Ventura (wrestling) -- Chris Wallace (seems like a smart guy) -- Whoopi Goldberg -- Meghan McCain -- Jimmy Kimmel -- Tony Robbins -- Amy Schumer -- Arnold Schwarzenegger -- Al Franken (he can attack the allegations head on and if cleared continue to run) This celebrity interest in politics and the country's fascination with having celebrities lead our land probably isn't going away in this day and age of Twitter, so bring 'em on.

QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Jan 10, 2018 -> 01:16 AM) I'm pretty sure you've said numerous times that you voted for somebody but you did not want to reveal the name other than to say it was not trump, Hilary or The Body. Maybe I'm lying so I don't have to admit voting for Ozzie.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 10, 2018 -> 03:10 PM) You don't even read what I type, do you? Very few people read what people type. I am constantly amused at one or two sentences of a 10 paragraph post (by me) suddenly becomes my entire post and my entire position. Probably is a good reminder to keep posts short.

QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 10:19 PM) greg of course there are people who love trump and those that hate him. This is has been the case for most politicians throughout history. You really gotta get out of your bubble. I am worried about you. I thought Trump was different. To me and the stuff I read (CNN, etc) I read a daily barrage of negative stuff on Trump. Can't remember anything good said about him in a long time, hence it seemed to me he was despised by about all. That's why those peeps in Texas surprised me by enthusiastically saying they liked him.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 10:04 PM) In 5 of 7 blown saves, Soria allowed 1 or 0 runs. Relievers will give up a run here or there. He only really had 2 very bad blown saves. That's why context is important. Roberto Osuna had 10 blown saves this year but I'd take him closing games for the White Sox in a second. Interesting.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 11:01 PM) Its all just opinion. Itd be like asking if you were happy after the last play of the National Championship game last night. Georgia fans will answer much differently than Alabama fans. True. I just have been influenced so much by Hollywood and the daily barrage of anti-Trump articles that I assumed everybody in the USA despised him. I remain a bit worried about the North Korea situation. Trump is definitely capable of a first strike on NK and that would not be good. In fact it might be the end of us all. He orders a strike and next thing you know we hear they've sent a few nukes our way and our defense system has no idea how to knock those nukes out of the sky.

Is this board truly reflective of the country's opinion of Trump? I was in Dallas area over the weekend and I asked two rich oil people (one man, one woman) what they thought of Trump. One immediately declared: "I like him," adding that he says some dumb things on Twitter but aside from that she liked him. Then the other person said the economy actually was improving and he also liked Trump. Then I hear he gets half cheers/half boos as the national title game. You'd think it would be 90 percent boos if you read this board and listen to the pundits and Hollywood types bash him daily. I know Hollywood tore into Trump at the Golden Globes, but Hollywood should be more humble and silent right now with the scandal going on. I'm just saying ... has Trump had some accomplishments that are making 50 percent of Americans think he's OK to good?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 10:48 PM) He wasn't making that statement meaning he actually believes it. He's saying he doesn't know. Thanks soxfan. I wish peeps would read entire threads for comprehension. One poster was implying I had some reason for bashing Oprah and I'm not even bashing Oprah. I respect Oprah and like her for gosh sakes. If she ran against Trump and she did OK in the debates etc., I'd probably vote for her. I know I wouldn't vote for Donald. I didn't last time. I sat it out rather than waste my vote on Jesse V who had no chance as a write in.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 09:27 PM) I didn't see any dissenting opinions. I can tell you when I had mine, it was the same reaction as with Soria. Also, not too many wanted to hear anything negative about Zach Duke. I don't know what it is with these guys that make posters fall in love? Currently the board is heavily tilted with fans of the front office, close to them doing no wrong (there are some posters not crazy bout the Rutherford trade, but that's been about the only dissent). This trade is fine cause I never heard of the guy we gave up and the one reliever may be useful. I would have been silent on the trade cept for the fact Soria has pitched out here and fans hate him as much as I did Rios. There's also the backup quarterback syndrome again and the lure of the mysterious. Plus apparently Soria's peripherals are still good. I still think blowing 7 saves is a decent chunk. You know, everybody talks about his one horrid outing exploded his ERA. Doesn't it go both ways? How many times did he enter in a 7-1 game and pitch 1-2 perfect innings and those numbers also have to be included. I trust you all that his peripherals are OK to good and he could improve. I said in my initial thread never underestimate Coop. I actually hope I'm wrong. If Soria returns to the old old Soria form and he's our closer and we are saving game after game, cool. White sox win the pennant would be fine with me!

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 07:06 PM) Wait, what? Under what circumstances and accomplishments would someone consider Oprah the smartest woman alive??? Oprah is a great actor, a great interviewer/talk show host, seemingly a very nice person, made a ton of money for herself and charity. I merely "wondered" if she is into the world scene enough to tackle some of the political stuff besides social issues. I said I have no idea. She might be the smartest woman alive and know everything you need to know to kick ass in a debate on foreign affairs for instance. I know many people don't know s*** about world stage, like me, and would have no business even trying in a debate format.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 12:52 PM) And this is where I quit reading this post. You should read the whole post. I said Trump is bad first of all. But you can't admit he knows ENOUGH about the world and politics to not completely embarass himself?? He knows enough to be in the game. I'm saying a lot of people (not sure of Oprah's proficiency in this area) have little knowledge of world leaders and the global geographical map even and they might get torn apart in debates. Why was my post wrong? Trump embarrasses himself A LOT but not to an extreme over simple world leaders/geography. Oprah may be the smartest woman alive in all areas. If so my bad. QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 03:21 PM) Dang if there was a prop bet for who would have started the Oprah for President thread I probably would have bet on caulfield and lost. People have a "thing" about starting threads on a message board. Puzzles me. I fear starting threads. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 04:22 PM) I should have quit when I saw the poster. Gee thanks. It's in the news big time and I wanted a discussion. Instead ... wham! QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 04:24 PM) So wait just one second. Wait. Wait. Wait. I'm seriously asking this. Did I just read this? A guy who says in the same sentence that Donald Trump is well informed enough but then wonders whether or not a different celebrity is well informed enough? A guy who we begged to pay attention to policy last year who then harped on how he doesn't want to be PC? I wonder why he might apply such a different standard to someone like Oprah Winfrey. OMG. This is why I can't win a debate. All of a sudden I'm anti Oprah?? I like her and said so in the post. Yes I wondered if Oprah can handle debate issues or not. Again, I'm not into the world scene and I'd get torched. Trump is OK enough that he can talk about world leaders, countries, issues, etc. My "wonderment" was if Oprah would be great on social issues and need a running mate like Gore to take care of the normal political stuff. Thanks everybody for hating me some more.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 06:42 PM) More talk of a "bloody nose" strike plan against North Korea This is such a bad idea, and it's coming from the putative "adults" in the room. On the one hand, they're regularly pointing out how irrational and unstable Kim is, so they're planning to...punch him in the face? And on the other hand, how could the DPRK ever really know that it's a "limited" strike versus the opening salvo in a regime change effort? There's no realistic mechanisms where the conflict doesn't immediately escalate to something bigger. I'm not in favor of military action against that nut just yet. Please Mr. Trump and advisors figure out a better way to hurt this guy. I don't want nukes being launched anytime soon.It will be the end of the world as we know it. Now we do have to stop crazy Kim "somehow."

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 06:36 PM) Can someone please explain to me why it seems like so many people dislike this trade? In essence, the Sox traded a superfluous middle infielder for two relievers. One of which is lefty and is pretty good and the other is only a short term piece. The Sox have the payroll flexibility to absorb Soria's contract and the Sox got a bit of money back in the deal anyway. Relief pitching was a massive need and Hahn killed two birds with one stone. Am I missing something? The trade is fine. I just can't stand the idea of watching Soria in a Sox uniform. QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 07:40 PM) No, the entire crux of the argument is, while I like the trade, I think Soria sucks, and people view crap on other teams a lot differently than they view it on their own. White Sox fans are unique in that they appreciate others' crap a lot more than their own. The White Sox have had a whole lot of whipping boys with excellent peripherals. But the dream is Soria will be flipped for a prospect who will help the White Sox contend for years. I hope that happens, but it is a dream. The Sox gave up a rule 5 unclaimed and got another decent reliever and cash to get him. I agree with this post.

Am I wrong in thinking that was one helluva football game? As somebody with no ties to either team and no hatred for either school I thought it was a compelling comeback victory. Let's rate ourselves as sports fans, what type we are. When the game ended did you think: "What a choke job by Georgia?" Or "What a comeback victory by Alabama?" I chose the latter. I really did see a team completely wear out another team. Alabama even overcame the missed FG. It seemed like Alabama was playing a high school team the latter portions of the game. Georgia has nothing going offensively or defensively during a long long period of time that constituted the comeback. Kudos to Bama.

Well, after her great speech at the Golden Globes, Steadman said yes she is considering running for President. NBC in fact had to remove a Tweet basically endorsing her. It wasn't NBC news, just NBC. So I guess we are in an era we will be nominating celebrities and they will be the favorites. I mean I like Oprah enough but good luck to Oprah on all the many issues you have to have knowledge of to be President. I realize Trump is probably the worst president ever and all that, but he has enough of a knowledge of the world and the economy and some other things that he doesn't completely embarass himself. I'm not suggesting Oprah has no knowledge of these things, she might, and if so could be the most brilliant President ever. But if she's just a nice, upstanding, beautiful, giving person with little knowledge of the world scene, she could get eaten alive in the debates. Again no offense to Oprah, I do love her too, but is she amazing on the issues? I mean I know nothing about history or the world map. Some people like me I hate to say just don't care about those things. I would get embarrassed in such a forum quizzing me on world issues and leaders. Oprah has made a fine living as an interviewer and entrepreneur and actor. Does she know issues and poliics? Perhaps our presidential elections of the future should consist of a lovable celebrity like Oprah or Hanks (who I presume would be strongest on social issues) paired with a lifelong politican like Gore who can "run the show" behind the scenes. Please don't consider this thread frivolous (I know many on here get mad when folks like me start a new thread). I have heard many celebrities now begging Oprah to run and like I said, NBC tweeted its support. Also she already has a theme for the campaign. It was her saying the saying, "A New Day is On The Horizon." I think NBC even said OUR president Oprah. If she is seriously considering running I just want to know a.) are you appalled at the new normal? Celebs running for high office. b.) do you think Oprah knows her stuff? c.) Is Oprah Winfrey going to win and be our next President? Think about all the things that have to happen for her to win the Democratic nomination over folks like Bernie. Maybe the ticket should be Oprah/Bernie. So please let's discuss this. I will start by saying I am guessing Oprah would beat Trump but I need some convincing she is fit to join the world of politics. p.s. I did just read a story that suggested the Democrats have a lot of possible candidates and Oprah might actually get in the way of some up and coming political Democrat stars. This puts a weird thought in my head. If Trump doesn't want to run again (and why would he?) maybe the new normal in the Republican party is a celebrity. Have Oprah be the Republican candidate. Then in 8 years the Republicans can go for another celebrity like Billy Joel. Just rotation Republican presidents who are celebs. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sou...ID=ansmsnnews11 http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/...1089-story.html