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QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 18, 2016 -> 11:28 PM) Good grief Greg. Your posts keep getting worse and worse. Read some of the discussions and the news in the baseball world and maybe you would understand. Rebuilds take time and so does trading veteran players. So Greg, in your intimate baseball wisdom, tell us at this point in time what teams would be interested in the players you've listed and what the return would be. I'm just saying as of right now you could make a case the team wants to contend next season. We have Holland and the two new pitchers who are MLB ready plus the new second baseman who is considered a potential star. Now until we trade the guys I mentioned we're a normal team, not a rebuilding team. I mean we still have a ton of veterans on the team. Now if we dump those guys I mentioned, fine, it's a 50-win season and total rebuild. I have no idea who we'll trade those guys to. I would think Frazier would be wanted by many NL teams. Hard to dump Melky. Abreu should bring a lot. Nate won't bring anything. Q will bring a good haul. Robertson should bring 3 decent prospects.

His record will be 5-17 with a 5.50 ERA and a lot of innings pitched.

Until the Sox get rid of Frazier, Lawrie, Melky, Robertson, Nate, Abreu and also trade Q, there's no evidence of a complete rebuild. Why would you have any of those guys here if you are in a true rebuild? Let's see what the Sox get for those guys. As of right now, this is just a bad team, not a rebuilding team.

I think it's pretty rare for a baseball player to b**** and moan after winning a world series. I mean, Aroldis, you disagree with the way you were used? Most baseball fans will laugh at you cause the way you were used helped your team win a ring. Can you guys remember any player b****ing after a WS title? Closest thing to Chicago might be George Bell b****ing during the playoffs about the way he was being used. That was not so special.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 11:26 PM) But Chelsea Clinton would have been president in 2024. If Hillary would have won, Chelsea would have been very visible during her 8 years. Do you deny that? When you are visible, you can run for president. Donald Trump won. Do you think he'd have won had he not had a popular TV show and been in the public eye a long time?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 01:29 AM) You need to step up your troll game son. Do you read the board? Danks got no credit for his good performance year before last and the hate before his release was way out of proportion than it should have been. Check some of his starts the second half of season before last. True, he reeked at the start last year prior to his release, but IMO there was no need to release him. A lousy team like the White Sox could have put him in the bullpen or the wink wink DL list for a while.

QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 10:35 PM) This thread made me look up Danks stats and I had forgotten he had 3 good years in a row. But he's terrible now and was terrible when the sox let him go. It's almost 2017. Danks sucks. For some reason Danks was a huge scapegoat on this board, kind of the reason for Sox rotten-ness according to the fans. Fans on this board despised him I guess cause he made a lot of money and didn't earn it cause of injury. It's always amazed me how fans get mad at guys who make the money and suck. If it wasn't Danks it's somebody else getting the money and not earning it. I don't care if Jerry loses some money here and there. He's still going to charge exorbitant prices for parking and hot dogs and everything else. Danks was despised more than Robin and I don't get that at all. Like I said, year before last he was good the second half. I mean there was no outcry to get rid of Shields and he was miserable. We've also had so many bad relievers and spot starters the last few years.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 06:35 PM) More reason for electors, on Monday, to go against their states' popular vote results. Is there any chance he won't get enough votes. I wouldn't be against it. I just didn't want Hillary; I don't really want Trump either. I think it's time for "next."

I'm pleased Obama is going to punish Russia for hacking the election. WTF? If we are truly the greatest FREE nation we can't stand for that kind of bulls***. I hope it's a SEVERE punishment handed to Russia. f*** them. Hit em where it hurts, Mr. Obama. Thank you.

QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 05:24 AM) ??? Were we watching the same player? Danks has been BAD for 6 straight years dude. As mentioned, ever since the injury he's been atrocious. Don't get me wrong, I hated the Shields trade and he is clearly on the downside of his career - but come on, you'd rather have Danks if money isn't a factor? Sure, Shields has been terrible the past 2 years, but he was an elite inning-eater SP previous to that for the majority of his career. Danks had one great year + 2 solid years in his career before gettting hurt. He tried to become a "crafty lefty" and f***ing couldn't to save his life. If he wasn't signed long term with JR being cheap he would have been DFAd in 2014. I loved John Danks the human just as you clearly did/do, but get your head out of your ass. He was consistently the worst pitcher I've seen in a White Sox uniform since 2011, maybe ever. Danks 2011-2016: 756 IP/ 4.79 ERA / 4.60 FIP / 85 ERA+ (15% below league average pitcher) / 818 H / 1.4 WHIP Danks was not bad at all year before last. I stand by my statement he was not even the worst pitcher on the staff. Why didn't they move him to the pen? Notice once we dumped him how bad the team got? He by all accounts was a good clubhouse guy which we needed when the team pissed away the 23-10 start.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Dec 14, 2016 -> 04:08 PM) I don't want to see this team losing for years just to get a high draft choice. How many of those high draft choices turn out to be good? (Remember Jared Mitchell?) I've been told by numerous people that JR hates losing. It'll be curious to see how he reacts if this team keeps losing for years. I still think the team is going to be sold within 3 years. By that time this team won't have any big contracts on the books. It's alot easier to sell a team if it doesn't have any big contracts to payout. Great post. I can't believe our fans trust our front office to draft the right guy. We'll probably draft a pitcher who is Rodon-esque. I have nothing against Rodon, but... QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 14, 2016 -> 04:22 PM) Depending on who they trade off, they could easily be a 50-60 win team next season, and I am more than ok with that. I will actually go out to the stadium and have fun again. You must have a lot of money. You'll "have fun" rooting for a team down 4-0 in the second inning of a Holland or Shields start and 8-1 after 5? You are a helluva fan. I would puke in the scenario I've described after snarfing down a 6 dollar hot dog.

I wouldn't mind if they stopped now and dumped all the players at the midseason mark if we suck. See how we do, then trade them all if we reek with our new manager. Give him a chance to win first. Right now we got rid of Sale and Eaton. Big deal. Two of the pitchers we acquired were IN THE BIG LEAGUES last season. They could join the rotation and "arguably" the rotation would be fringe playoff caliber RIGHT NOW as it has been for many seasons. We've added a MLB ready second baseman who is supposed to be a star. Yes, the loss of Eaton weakens an already lousy outfield, but maybe we could actually sign a GOOD free agent outfielder and get a catcher who is not a disgrace. No I wouldn't mind if we stopped now. I don't want to win 50 games next season.

Danks never should have been DFA'ed. He was NOT our worst pitcher. If he's not hurt, he's definitely young enough to make a comeback especially if he becomes more of a crafty lefty. I LOVE John Danks and think he got the shaft with the Sox. Shields couldn't even last 3 innings without getting lit up. Danks was not even that bad. He should have been moved to long relief til he got his act together. Our bullpen has been horrific the last several years and he coulda joined that bullpen.

Can you imagine a rotation that includes both Holland and Shields? Why not reacquire Jake Peavy and lose almost every game? Seriously if we get rid of Q and Robertson and have no starters and no relievers, lol on our record. Worst team in baseball history maybe?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 04:40 AM) https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-himself-in...-022916287.html Putin was directly involved in the Russian hacks...had vendetta against Hilary Clinton. http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/14/politics/iva...mily/index.html Ivanka to get her own East Wing office, will assume some of the duties of First Lady/"social hostess," essentially If Russia can hack our elections, it's all over. You think the great minds in China aren't conniving ways to pollute our water system, ruin our environment? If Russia can dictate our elections through hacking, it's over. The end is coming. Cmon. It's too easy to infiltrate the inner workings of the USA because everything is run by computer and computer can and will be hacked.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 08:58 PM) And yet you're ok with Russia having committed criminal acts in support of the election of Donald Trump and encourage others to leave the country if they have an issue with lawbreaking in support of a candidate. Whatever. I hate Hillary. I hate Trump. I love Bernie. I love Ventura. I love America. I hate Russia. I hate China. I hate North Korea. What more can I say?

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 06:36 AM) Benetti is ok but he is too corny and too generally naive or ignorant about the nuances of the game for my liking. Stone is fine imo. He is a know it all but most former player analysts are. Hawk? Dude, he needs to be put out to pasture. He was fun in his prime but those days are long passed. Hawk will die in the booth if JR lets him and that is not how it should end. Not ripping you, but I'd be shocked if any lead announcer would be beloved. It seems to me most of them suck. They have announcer voices and not conversational like Hawk and Harry. I think Bennetti is good cause he's at least conversational. Hardly any do that. They have the nasal announcer voice. Keep Benneti forever. Hawk will quit soon enough. All road games for a team that is going to lose an unprecedented amount of road games the next 3-4 seasons. I mean a rebuilding team on the road? That can't be fun to announce a batch of 8-1 losses and 12-3 losses. Hawk will be gone very soon if we keep making rebuilding trades.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 08:51 PM) Perhaps if he's your president you should move to Russia. Cmon. I am an American. I wouldn't vote for Trump, but now that he's in, I hope my wallet expands. I mean I don't think it will; he probably will be a disaster, but I can hope. I'm not rooting for his failure, that's for sure. It's kind of rude of you to suggest I'd move to Russia. I am an American through and through. I love our military and love this country. Yes I despise Hillary. I'm human and she rubs me the wrong way. QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 09:19 PM) Thanks for at least admitting that you're an epic troll. You could read the very first post of this thread to learn about the issue but you obviously just came in here to do your tired schtick. Sorry I don't follow all issues. The election is over. Forgive me for taking a break from politics. Yes I despise Hillary. Yes I think Trump is evil one percenter. Yes I love Bernie. So shoot me. QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 10:04 PM) Hannity and O'Reily aren't talking about it. Greg has never heard of it. Haven't watched much political stuff at all since the election was over. Not following all the headlines regarding Trump/Hillary/Bernie. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 11:01 PM) Lol at this respect the president schtick. Not after eight years of blatant disrespect of Obama from colonial LARPers and Republicans in Congress. Not for the man that ran a campaign built on xenophobia, Islamophobia, racism, sexism, etc. But to bring it full circle, Greg, you gonna respect Duterte? Afterall, he is the president of the Philippines. I showed Obama respect. I even voted for him and I'm Republican. Rather than look up Duterte to respond I'll continue to tell you I haven't studied this issue. If he's a brutal dictator no I don't like him. If Trump invited him here ... I told you I don't like Trump. If he invites a dictator who kills people to the USA, perhaps we should try to impeach Trump. No killer should be invited here. Look I responded to the guy who said "crooked Donnie" cause I thought I almost got banned for saying Crooked Hilly. But I guess I was almost banned for just being generally a dick not that one post. I wouldn't mind if Trump got impeached, even if the electoral college refuses to put him in. I'd take McCain as a compromise pick. I don't know how that works, who gets voted in if the electoral college refuses to put in Trump. I'd assume it's not Hillary by law.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 12:54 AM) I couldn't find the old thread where we made the predictions for the off season. Now that things have died down a bit, and Sale and Eaton being traded. Who else do you think will be traded? Where are those players going? What free agent signings do the Sox make to fill the MLB holes? SP Jose Quintana and RP Dan Jennings to the Rockies for SS Brendan Rodgers, SP Riley Pint, OF Raimel Tapia, and 3B Tyler Nelvin RP David Robertson to the Nationals for C Pedro Severino and OF Juan Soto 3B Todd Frazier to the Cardinals (miss out on Justin Turner) for 3B Jhonny Peralta (potential flip at the deadline, 1 year remaining), C Carson Kelly, and SP Dakota Hudson OF Melky Cabrera and 2B/3B Brett Lawrie go at the deadline FA Signings: SP Derek Holland 1 year/3 million SP Jhoulys Chacin 1 year/6 million SP Tom Milone Minor League contract RP Drew Storen 1 year/5 million RP Brian Matusz 1 year/2 million OF Colby Rasmus 1 year/8 million Thoughts? And your ideas? Why would we keep Melky and Lawrie if all those deals go down? There'd be no reason to play either of them as our team would win about 50 games max. I mean we'd just dump them for scraps rather than play them after all the trades you suggest go down to go with the trade we already made.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 02:48 PM) You were doing it over and over and over and over and over again and asking a dozen questions that weren't really questions and ignoring the substantive answers people gave you, in the Democratic thread specifically, and it got to the point where people found it annoying. That wasn't specifically because of what you said. Oh. I thought it was for calling her names. QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 05:12 PM) Also interesting that this is why Greg posted in this thread. No concern about the actual topic at hand or the fact that Drumpf is welcoming this abhorrent dictator to the White House. I have a lot of concern for Trump. I think he's a ruthless person, I'd lean toward calling him a very bad person, but that's just my opinion. I am not a fan of 1 percenters who step on the little guy daily to make millions. As far as this issue, I'm not really full of knowledge about it but I'd assume you are all right and it's disgusting, etc. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 06:47 PM) It actually leans Republican. The reason it seems to lean Democrat is because you go into the Democrat thread, spout your broken record lines without listening to the other posts and then say s*** like "show him respect or move to Canada." You know who he's respecting? The guy carrying out these killings. You should quote me correctly. I said if he's not your president then you can move to Canada. I said I always showed Obama respect on here even though I thought he was a lousy president/great Sox fan. I never said move to Canada. I said if he's not your president then you can move to Canada. You guys who wanted Hillary to win were like all the pundits. You underestimated how many Americans (yes we are all Americans) would never never never vote for her. How many Americans despised her. I read somewhere she is the most disliked politician ever. As bad as Trump is, I do stand by my line that he should be showed respect. Caulfield made a good point though that we don't really respect our Presidents anymore so I should consider that in more depth.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Dec 10, 2016 -> 04:42 PM) After the 2017 White Sox lose over 100 games, Hawk will retire and ride off into the sunset. He won't want to be a part of a team that resembles the new version of the St. Louis Browns. True dat. This will be Hawk's last season. He only does road games? LOL. They'll win 10 road games all year. Maybe 17 or so.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 03:44 AM) What is it with you and this "ME AND EVERYONE I LIKE AGAINST THE WORLD" mentality? You have to bring it into every damn thread and then put words in others mouths. A post like this infuriated me ... "Love the fraudulent Grindy-ness. I wonder which child of a Nationals player will be dubbed a team leader by Spanky." All I did was respond to this mean post and stand up for Eaton who did a nice thing for a blind kid. Where's the outrage for a post like that in an appreciation thread?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 03:33 AM) Greg, nobody would have banned you for that. We've just learned to accept that respect for the office of the presidency has gone out the window since Nixon. Remember all the "you lie/d!" stuff with the congressman confronting Obama? Calling Hillary or Trump "crooked" is nothing. I've sometimes called him PT Trump. Even Newt Gingrich, his close advisor (supposedly) says he's 1/3rd PT Barnum but hopefully more Harry Hopkins (FDR's close advisor). Fair enough Caulfield. You da man as always. However I sensed enough consternation at my calling Hillary names that I stopped when somebody important told me to cut it out.

I love the way how some fans turn on a hardnosed player like Adam. Look what he did for this blind child. Yeah, Eaton is a bad guy. Give me a break. Keep rooting for prospects. Maybe someday they'll be as good as Eaton. I never fell for Adam as a player; I thought he was good not great and actually was improving every year, but this story shows what a good man he must be. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-leag...-065247398.html

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 03:31 AM) I don't particularly like the politics of a Bush 41, Dole, Bush 43, McCain, or Romney, but they were basically respectable people. Donald Trump is a straight up piece of s***. I woulda got banned for calling Hilary the same. Trump is president because the DNC ran off Bernie. Bernie would have won. Trump is horrible, no doubt, but he is your president unless you decide to revisit your citizenship. Face facts. Donald Trump is President of the United States and our leader.