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It's amazing how you hear different stuff. CNN has Hillary winning in the landslide I predict. However ABC I think had it tied. Meanwhile, don't shoot the messenger, Hillary fans. But driving tonight I was listening to Hannity and he had a sheriff on blasting Hillary for his behavior in allegedly laughing while representing the guy who raped a 12 year old years ago and the 12 year old was brutally attacked. Is this some sort of bulls*** story or did Hillary really do this? Hannity was playing clips of Hillary laughing, etc., and the sheriff and victim were on and both attacked Hillary. If this story is true, how can you Hillary supporters even consider voting for her? I'm assuming there's a chance it's all true since Hannity spent his whole show on it. I mean, yes, Donald is disgusting, but how can anybody put an X next to Hillary Clinton's name? I also heard Larry the Cable Guy say the U.S. will fall apart completely if she is elected and has eight years to wreck things. So is it over? Will the USA become an utter disaster under Hillary like they say?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 04:42 PM) <!--quoteo(post=3443168:date=Nov 4, 2016 -> 10:08 AM:name=La Marr Hoyt HOF)-->QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 10:08 AM) <!--quotec-->Maybe the effect is that we too can get an awesome song like 'Go Cubs Go' Today is going to be unbearable Is this song real? Where did you find this?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 05:24 AM) It is quite possibly in the most accessible location possible. What about the suburbs? There have to be some great locations. Lot of cities are in the suburbs. Arlington, Atlanta, etc

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 02:17 AM) The White Sox have little chance (assuming payrolls stay the same or slightly less) without leveraging Sale and/or Quintana for packages like the Indians received for Bartolo Colon (Sizemore, Cliff Lee, Brandon Phillips). Basically, you've got to get at least TWO regulars that are 2.5-3.5 WAR (or more) for that one player, if not three. Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense. Greinke for Cain/Alcides Escobar is yet another example. The Cubs' main risks will be in the bullpen (do they go after Jansen or give the job back to Rondon/Strop/Edwards?)...and the health of the starting rotation, whether Hendricks can sustain his success (expecting another ERA title is foolhardy), but they have numerous plausible ways to cushion the back end of the rotation by trading spare parts and/or adding salary in June/July trades. They absolutely don't have to do much more than target 90-93 wins to outlast the Cards/Pirates, who are both in transitional phases (the Cardinals just cut loose Holliday, the Pirates have to decide what to do with McCutcheon and already traded Melancon). Obviously, their target next season will be 105+ wins, with Arrieta possibly in his last season and Lester perhaps in his final "prime" season before his career arc turns downwards again. Assuming they let Arrieta go after 2017, there are a number of decent options on the FA pitching market, compared to this year. The other danger is losing key front office personnel like Hoyer, McLeod, Randy Bush or Shiraz Rehman, but those guys aren't irreplaceable...every aspiring young baseball exec in the industry would die to work for the World Champion Cubs (for free or even pay for the privilege) and learn under the mentoring of Epstein/Maddon, etc. Why do you think Chapman will go elsewhere? Why do you think they let Arrieta go after 2017? They are loaded with $$$. If they were smart, they would market the hell out of jerseys for Christmas. How many million jerseys could they sell for 50 bucks a jersey? Probably 80 percent of folks in Chicago who follow sports would LOVE a Cubs Christmas gift, expensive CLOTHING. If the Cubs blow this, they are morons. My gosh, the marketing should begin now hot and heavy, advertising HOW to purchase this stuff. Such as easy gift. Cubs sweaters, T shirts, JERSEYS, umbrellas, coffee mugs. My gosh they have to get the WS stuff ready to go now.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 02:58 AM) Damn. This is total firesale mode. That team might not even win 50 games. With the pitching staff in this scenario it might only win 40 games. It would be the worst team by far in baseball history. Lot of good prospects acquired, but would the pitching ever recover to ever make us contenders?

QUOTE (Green Line @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 03:25 AM) Im just so tired of hearing about it at this point. Ive accepted that theyve won, its over. Theyve won the city for good. But Im so tired of everything being Cubs, Cubs, cubs. Every channel, every article. All the small talk at work for the past 2 months, having to grit your teeth as you hear about how this was the greatest world series in the history of the world. It will never end. And all next season we will still have to hear about it Every. Freaking. Day. Just let us Sox fans be in peace. Stop the torment. Yes. But the Sox can stop all the Cubs talk all the time. By winning. We got a lot of attention in 2005. It was nirvana.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 12:02 PM) Oh my goodness. Nobody here has had a problem with the 8 billion bandwagon blackhawks fans that have emerged since 2010. gmab. Are you OK with Hawks fans like me? Went to a ton of games when I was a kid and when I lived in Chicago. But only watch the playoffs now and watched all the playoff games every year we won it. Am I OK or repulsive bandwagoner? As to the thread title. Congratulations Cubs. I truly believe you had the best team. You showed some mettle getting it done after falling down 3-1. You have a great manager, but he's not invincible either. He'd have been attacked everywhere had the Cubs lost that game after the bunt and the use of Chapman the last 2 nights. In conclusion ... congratulations, Cubs and true Cub fans. You won fair and square and now you have the best thing imaginable, a parade and the best offseason of your lives. Nothing better than being champs during the bitterly cold winter months.

Thank goodness. He needs to begin his career after baseball.

KW is a major albatross. We must hire better managers and coaches and scouts and must acquire some GOOD players in free agency, not these stiffs he's been bringing in. Kenny got one WS. Now let him go to the Oakland Raiders or whereever he wants.

I'll address the topic name: The Cubs are a goldmine. If they keep the same GM and scouting team and same owner they are in great shape to pretty much at least do what the Blackhawks did. Wasn't that three titles in six years? The Cubs actually can improve next year and likely will easily repeat. Why? A crappy Indians team took them to seven games. The Cubs 'almost' blew that series despite having much more talent than Cleveland. They actually shouldn't be fat and happy next year cause of how they almost blew it this time. It's risky falling behind 3 to 1. Indians could have scraped out one win in the last three games. My guess is Cubs have their best season of the dynasty next season. Then the following year they miss the playoffs. Then they go nuts in free agency, etc. and either win two of the next three or one of the next three. I'll say two. So IMO the Cubs will win it four of six years counting this year. The big question is ... can the Sox actually get its act together and face them in the WS one of those years?? Sox actually have 'some' talent. Where they are blowing it is settling for crap managers (Robin) and run of the mill/average managers at best in Renteria. That hurts. Also very poor GM work. Now is it just luck that the GM moves have reeked or do our GMs suck? I'll say bad luck and give us the benefit of the doubt. Some of the moves looked good on paper. I do think the Sox have a chance to make the WS in one of the next five seasons where we 'could' play the Cubs. It's up to the Sox, really. They are pissing away the Sale/Q era thus far.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 08:25 PM) Why havent the democrats rigged the senate? Or the house? If they are so powerful that they could rig the presidential election, why stop there? I will await your answer that you will never provide while asking the same question in a few posts after mine Cause it's not easy to rig the system. President is the most important job.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 02:41 PM) http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/02/hilla...new-poll-shows/[/url] From the Denver Post - Clinton and Trump tied in Colorado. 1 in 5 polled would not accept a Clinton victory as legitimate. Jesus. You are a smart attorney. Why are you shocked people think things are rigged? Bernie got screwed, so to speak by the DNC. Hillary gets questions fed to her in debates. Think of all the corruption in Illinois politics. Why wouldn't national politics be the same. It's all crooked.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 07:06 PM) Some interesting early voting data from a polling firm in Florida--finding a pretty substantial R-crossover voting for Clinton but otherwise acting like a typical Republican voter would (low Obama approval, voting for Rubio). Early voting has looked pretty solid in enough states for Clinton to get to 270 so far, but Florida's been one that hasn't been too promising. If these results are even somewhat accurate, that spells a pretty substantial win for Clinton there but also Rubio holding his seat. This election was wrapped up the day Hillary announced she was running. Bernie had no chance cause of the DNC wanting Hillary and there's no way a Republican will ever win again, much less a bozo like Trump. Why even look at polls, etc. Landslide is assured for the coronation.

QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 05:42 AM) My grandfather who died in 1998 was a big Cubs fan but still rooted for the Sox. I feel him hear with me. I wouldn't give up those memories of going to Wrigley Field with him in the nineteen-eighties for nothing. I like hearing this stuff. When I played Little League from age 10 to 12, my grandpa took me to a ton of Cub games those summers. He didn't have a lot of money, either. The games were so crowded he'd buy us 2 seats together if he could but a lot of time he'd buy singles. We'd sit fairly close to each other and he'd wave to make sure I was OK. He always bought the tickets at the game itself. I don't know if he bought 'em from fans selling or at the windows. I did like the Cubs from 10 to 12 but my dad had Sox season tix and would take me to games as well. I was more of a Sox fan, though I did like going to the Cub games with my grandpa. When we moved to suburbia when I was a junior in high school I was all Sox all the time. Dad kept the Sox season tickets and it was fun going in to games with my friends; I guess my grandpa didn't want to make the drive in from suburbia as he was growing old cause we didn't go to any more Cub games. Anyhow I have no current loyalty to the Cubs. I wanted them to lose frankly. I will give kudos to my grandpa who is gone and my favorite uncle who is gone. My grandpa loved the Cubs but was such a good guy he shut up when people like my dad were screaming about Wrigley Field being a joke of a park and getting drunk and ripping on the Cubs. My grandpa just shut up. Perfect man. Didn't want to fight about politics or the Cubs/Sox. My uncle, my dad's brother, worshiped the Cubs. He would calm my dad down when my dad would start the Cub fights. Of course my uncle was a marine and if there was a fight, he'd have bludgeoned my poor dad who was the older brother. One year when I was an adult I called my uncle and asked him if we could go to a Cub game. I wanted to see Wrigley after many moons. We went to the game. He got us seats right behind the Cubs dugout. A Cardinal hit a home run on the first pitch then the clouds opened. A f***ing rainout. I took the train with him to the game and back home. I hope my uncle and grandpa are made aware of the Cubs title if indeed there is a heaven or afterlife. My uncle died just this year which really sucks. We had a nice conversation about the Cubs at Christmastime and he was really hopeful of them winning a WS. I'd ask him questions about the Cubs to make small talk even though I didn't give a f***. Really sucks he's dead. My grandpa I think was a huge Cub fan, he just didn't let on. Even when we went to the games, he didn't cheer a ton, but he damn well loved those Cubs. In conclusion ... I could be a bandwagon guy and proclaim I was a Cub fan as a kid. I will never do that. GO SOX!!! p.s. I do regret my grandpa burning me one time. We had a Little League game one night and he took me to the Cub game that day and there was a traffic jam after an extra inning game and I didn't get to Mt Greenwood Park til warmups had started. My manager benched my ass for being late and it was a huge huge game. He let me pinch hit in a tie game in extra innings. I drew a walk somehow (I never walked) and they bunted me to second and I scored the winning run on a single. After I scored my manager wasn't even happy he said, "if you are ever late again, you will never get in another game!" Wild memories. GO SOX!!

I'm still trying to figure out how Davis smashed that Chapman pitch for a homer. The Cubs came out after the rain delay and were all calm and focused after meeting in the locker room. I won't blame that though. After not winning since 1908 the Cubs were due for this luck bulls*** to be on their side.

Did u see the fan interviewed on wgn livestream from south side bar screaming, "the sox are dead; the sox are dead."

Well, the Cubs finally made the right moves and got an owner willing to spend money and a genius GM in Theo and the best manager in the game in Maddon. So you can see why they won it. Not to make it worse, but we have a horrible cheap owner (albeit maybe he CAN'T spend more; I realize we spend a good amount, but...) we have two horrific GMs who get in each other's way and we had a horrific manager so we had no chance of overachieving like that lousy Indians team did. So the curse was bulls***. The Cubs finally got it right. Owner, check; GM check; manager, check. -- Before you ream me, can u say Ben Zobrist? Uh the Cubs even paid to get HIM and he's Mr. Postseason.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 04:27 AM) I don't mind Rizzo, but his putting his hands on his head with the OMG reminds me of actors when they win an Academy Award and go through the "I have nothing prepared, I never thought I would win" phony routine. Great point. Good post.

I told u guys the Cubs were a lock and to bet the house. Did anybody follow my good advice? Cubs will wrap it up. It's simple, folks. The Cubs DEFINITELY have the better team. Case closed.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 01:11 AM) One thing that hasn't really been mentioned is how little they're paying for the naming rights. As the deadspin article pointed out, this deal is $2.4 million AAV below league average. Further, if the White Sox are so cash hungry, why not keep the naming rights and change the name back to Comiskey Park, like most Sox fans want anyway, and just go forward with a full rebuild, which will put a lot more than $2 million AAV into the owners' pockets, and then go for a Citi Field-esque naming rights deal when a competitive team emerges from the talent purge? That is one, great post! Great post.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 02:04 AM) Let's imagine the doomsday (hopefully this thread disappears tonight or tmrw) scenario happens and the Cubs do win it all. On the negative side, the White Sox will practically cease to exist this offseason, and the Indians would be doubly motivated to make another run at the World Series in 2017 with Brantley, Carrasco and Santana all back in the fold, not to mention the additional veterans (like Pearce, mentioned in another thread) to supplement the current roster's few weaknesses. We've seen over and over again in sports, the team that just barely misses a title come back the next year, and, likewise, the title-winning team runs out of gas or loses its motivation and focus after all the celebrating and media attention becomes a never-ending distraction. This gives the White Sox even more cover to operate under the radar and start the rebuilding process in full. No first round draft pick protection, a scarce number of FA assets available, payroll pressures due to flat or negative revenue growth (taking into consideration discounted tickets over time) and few minor league prospects that would be in high demand for other teams. The other positives is that overall revenues/popularity (at least in the short-term) for MLB and MLB Media will grow...more young people will become interested in the sport (especially in Chicago) and a rising tide floats ALL boats, so the White Sox franchise value would actually grow by 5-10%. The positive (or negative) effect on the broadcasting rights climate in 2019 is another story altogether, although by rebuilding NOW, there's an extremely high likelihood they SHOULD have a competitive team by that time, rather than the approach of the last couple of off-seasons of trying to catch lightning in a bottle. Over the span of 5-7 years out from now (which seems like forever, in this moment), the Cubs will start to eventually lose some of the "Lovable Losers" appeal and they'll instead begin to morph into a corporate conglomerate franchise more and more like the Red Sox, Dodgers and Yankees that is judged more by wins and losses (and titles) than the touristic reasons of/for attending a game at Fenway or Wrigley. This will especially be the case if they were to win multiple WS titles or make the playoffs 3-4-5 times consecutively. Good point about Cleveland. They will desperately want to return. Unless Renteria is way better than Robin I'd expect Cleveland to own us again next year. QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 03:00 AM) The Sox are done being relevant. They are now the Milwaukee Bucks or Cleveland Browns. This will be a cubs town and the Sox will just be here for s***s and giggles. Mainly, because our front office doesn't have a clue. We are irrelevant right now for sure. We blew it after 2005. The question is ... can we start contending for the postseason? Right now, no fricking way. This team totally blows entering next season. Now can they acquire some pieces (finally) to go with our playoff-caliber starting rotation? Without an unhittable reliever like Chapman and a catcher, outfielder and second baseman who can hit, forget it.

It'd be nice to just ignore the corporate name and have the media and everybody call it Sox Park. Or just say "they played the game at the White Sox stadium." Or "they played the game at 35th and Shields." Why should everybody who is not affiliated with the Sox cooperate and call it Guaranteed Rate Field? They don't pay the newspapers or TV stations or radio stations to get the free plug. And it's a repulsive name. What if Playboy Magazine paid by far the most money, would they agree to call it Playboy Magazine Field?

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Nov 1, 2016 -> 04:42 PM) Greg, one side of your mouth is saying he's smart and has listeners and knows what he is talking about and then, on the other side of his mouth, you talk about his schtick. Which is it? Is he a smart, politically savvy commentator? Or is he a guy who does bits? Because you can't truly be both. See Springer, Jerry. Well, he can't be smart and still do bits and/or have a schtick? I think Howard Stern is a genius and he does bits. If I have to pick one, yes, Rush is an entertainer more than an intellectual. If you are not interesting to the audience you have no show to begin with. It's funny how this all works, though. Here you definitely have a media bias toward Hillary and the left. The media definitely overall leans toward liberals and Democrats. Yet Rush, who makes a living hating on Democrats, has a show on mega stations. Doesn't that drive the owners of the radio station crazy? Yet they purchase Rush's show because he has such good ratings.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 1, 2016 -> 03:02 PM) Sounds like those people don't like the laws of our land. They can feel free to leave and go live somewhere like Saudi Arabia where abortion is outlawed. Yes but the issue is freedom of speech. The kids couldnt put up their signs Unborn Lives Matter, but the two BLM individuals were allowed to stand on stage, blow a whistle and interrupt and ruin the speech of a guest speaker. I mean DePaul 'probably' could have forced those individuals off the stage. I mean if you were at a sporting event and walked onto the court and started blowing a whistle, I'm assuming you could be arrested. Same in wrecking somebody's speech? Would DePaul arrest the BLM individuals if they tried a sit in and blew a whistle over and over at a basketball game? It's kind of the same thing. It was an organized speaking event.

Without arguing about this, one neutral comment. We're talking about 30,000 emails or something on Huma's server. What's with all the emails? How does anybody get that many emails? Seriously, that's a helluva lot of emails. I guess everybody wants to communicate with government officials all the time. Think of the time they must be answering emails all day every day.