Everything posted by greg775
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2016 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 9, 2016 -> 09:38 PM) Yeah I think I can. They breathe with their mouths, root for the Packers, and chant USA in large groups. Just the worst kind of people. No. I like Trump because he's outspoken and says whatever he wants then he denies saying it later. He's like a parody of politics. Most of what he says I feel he doesn't even believe. I'm not saying he's perfect. I am saying a lot of good people just are sick of politics and don't want 8 years of Hillary or Jeb, etc. People also want to feel safe and want to be able to make some money in life. QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 9, 2016 -> 10:50 PM) Greg, let me put this another way. Would Jesus build a giant wall to separate himself from either non-believers or sinners, tax collectors and prostitutes (let's just say they represent the "rapists" in Mexico)? Or would he welcome them and work even harder to accommodate/bring them into the fold? Would Jesus be afraid of, intimidated or threatened by the Jewish as well as Roman leaders? Or would he attempt to constructively engage with them rationally, intellectually and morally? Right now, Trump is much closer to Hitler in the 1930's or Joseph McCarthy in the 1950's than the being you get upset that fewer and fewer are turning out to worship every Sunday. I'm not into the Jesus analogy today. Trump's never going to build that wall. It's all hyperbole. Like I said he makes s*** up. Who cares? They all lie. Including Hillary. QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 10, 2016 -> 01:59 AM) Nah pretty much by definition if you support someone who is saying what he is saying you are a terrible person. There are lots of terrible people so it isn't exactly surprising. You are also using non sequitur wrong. I disagree. I live life by the Golden Rule and try to be a good person at all times. And I like Trump. I don't think I'm despicable because of fondness for Trump's style.
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2016 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 9, 2016 -> 05:40 PM) You don't have to be an idiot to support trump, but you do need to be a terrible person. This is a nonsequitir. Millions of people support Trump and millions are "terrible" people? I would venture to say thousands of people who like/support Trump are good people. I bet they donate to great causes, etc. I don't think you need to be a terrible person to support Trump. Some people flat out are sick of politics and definitely want a change and right now Trump is the only candidate certain to shake it all up. You can't tell me some Trump supporters are not, in fact, great individuals.
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2016 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 06:15 PM) How Michigan literally poisoned an entire city to save a few bucks Kinda speechless over that item. It's pretty sad we've come to this in America. Saving money?? For whom? Just do the morally right thing in your lives, people!
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2016 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 07:58 PM) What positive concrete plans has Trump put out there? The Wall? He still hasn't explained how itll get paid for. Here are his positions on issues. How can you not want him to give it a shot? Again ... can it be any worse? http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm I will say this bout Obama. He is a likeable guy. He's a Sox fan and wears it proudly and b.) his appearance on Comedians and Cars getting coffee with Seinfeld is AWESOME. I saw it online but couldn't find the link. It was damn funny. I do like Obama, but he got very little done unfortunately.
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Alex Gordon Thread
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 09:25 PM) Greg, where are you getting $30 million from? The only rumors are the White Sox offered 4/$80 and the Cardinals were roughly in the same ballpark as the Royals but clearly unwilling to go five years. Much like the Heyward situation (Cubs vs. StL), we're talking likely differences of $5-15 million in all likelihood and nothing close to $30 million or the player's association/union really would have had an issue with it for depressing FA salaries. That's well beyond a hometown discount. Caulfield, I had no knowledge. I was trying to make the point when it was said Gordon was getting 4 years at 72 million total from KC, that if somebody offered 20 mill for five years that would mean he gave up 20 mill the final year plus two mill a year for five years which is 10 more mill for a total of 30 million. How much could Gordon have made elsewhere? That's what I want to know or was KC's offer the largest he received? I'm just saying that most people on this board don't EVER see a case a player would leave money on the table to stay with his current team. I'm not discounting the fact I could be wrong, but if ever there would be a guy to do so, it would be Gordon. He went to Nebraska, is very aloof with media, has a strict daily regimen. If ever a guy loved his current situation and current REGIMEN it's Gordon. He's now assured Len Dawson status in this town, not quite Brett status but right up there. As an old ballplayer, he doesnt have to "worry" about getting booed out of Boston or New York or be the latest Angels' flop if he declines. ... I'm saying when you make 72 million the next four years, just forget about what you might have made elsewhere. 72 million is enough for Gordon and future generations of Gordons to be set for LIFE. I realize my position is unpopular and I admit I could be mistaken if indeed all players are out to attain every nickle they can attain. I'm not saying I'm right.
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Alex Gordon Thread
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 08:06 PM) The only thing I saw was the White Sox offer was 3 years. Maybe a team offered him more, but not significantly more. If a team offered him $30 million more he would have a lot of union pressure because he basically would be suppressing the future earnings of a lot more players than himself. Yeah, the union pressure thing has to be considered too. All reports are Gordon is a pretty intense guy in his preparation and I'd just think when you get an ultra fair offer like 18 mill a year for four years (if that's true) and you are a legend in that town forever, just take the cash and don't even think about how you could have made 20-30 million more going to some city where at 32 years old you'll be way out of your comfort zone as your skills decline.
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Alex Gordon Thread
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 07:56 PM) If a team offered him 5/$100 million, he wouldn't have re-signed with the Royals. If he's all about winning and life and not about cash, he probably has enough in the bank to live a sweet rest of his life, or he could take $10 million a year, and be fine, and tell the Royals to spend the rest on other players. He, Paulie, who was in the exact same boat when he was a free agent after the White Sox won the WS, will take a discount to a certain point. Did the Royals actually make the best offer? I stand by the premise of my post. Yes I'd leave 30 million on the table to stay with a team I just won a WS with, where I was totally comfortable with my routine, the way the team does things, the way I like to prepare for games, not having to prove myself to new fans and a new, big city. The reason? Cause I got 18 mil a year for four years from the team I'm comfy with, and that frankly, is enough in my mind. Now if the Royals offer was indeed the best he could have gotten, my bad. If the Royals actually won some sort of bidding war, again, my bad.
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Alex Gordon Thread
I'm surprised more players don't do what Gordon did. Stay put if they are that popular. I don't know if any team offered more, I haven't read enough yet, but four years at 18 million a year will have he and all his immediate relatives set for life a couple times over. I would think quality of life would factor in at some point (I know it doesn't for almost all pros) over a few more million dollars. Not every player needs a new city, a new challenge. This guy just won a WS, which means he can just continue to do his thing. If at some point he starts to suck, the fans will be way more forgiving here than anywhere else. I just think the Paulie discount is a smart thing for a player who has won a WS to do. I'm assuming Gordon coulda got 20 mill a year for five years from somebody. That would be 30 more million dollars total. Yes, a ton of money, but again, what price is quality of life and comfort zone when it's all monopoly money. From a Sox standpoint for some reason I despise Melky more than Avi. I won't be despondent if Avi gets the proverbial final chance.
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2016 Republican Thread
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 4, 2016 -> 09:43 PM) Honestly...maybe I just don't care, but I kind of thought it was a joke at how politics work. Would anyone possibly think a candidate would be so stupid to say that seriously? I mean, come on now. I perceived it as her just making a joke / being sarcastic. I guess twitter needs Green like Soxtalk. Maybe I'm wrong...either way don't really care. She isn't winning the nomination and in the grand scheme of things, this is pretty high up on the scale of overreaction. Good post. Considering how dumb people are in general, it had to be a bad idea to send out a sarcastic tweet of that nature if that's what she did. I mean aside from like you said, writing it in green, it wasn't clear at all that it might be a joke. She should just drop out. She's not going to rally obviously.
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2016 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 3, 2016 -> 02:33 PM) http://www.salon.com/2016/01/03/the_middle..._workers_drown/ Here's a pretty good reason the GOP still has a shot at the presidency, especially with Kasich as the VP on the ticket. I'd feel better about eight years of Hillary if I felt she had some concrete positive plans to offer. Maybe no president will ever be able to work with Congress again, but I just see Hilly's eight years as a continuation of the stalemate of getting nothing of consequence done. It would be nice if she could reverse the trend and put some money in the pockets of the middle class. There are a lot of people who work hard in this country and still can't afford good living conditions and decent health care. I feel like we should give Trump a shot. We can always vote him out in four years if he blows.
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2016 Republican Thread
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 3, 2016 -> 11:02 PM) https://www.yahoo.com/politics/carly-fiorin...-155518374.html Rose Bowl Gate It would be better if Fiorina was honest and admitted it completely backfired instead of rationalizing. In no way does her Tweet resemble a tongue in cheek joke. I mean if it was a joke you've got to make it clear in a follow up joke that you were kidding. I mean you like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but that did not have "joke" written all over it. She said flat out said she loved her alma mater but she wanted Iowa to win. How is that tongue in cheek?
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2016 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 2, 2016 -> 05:06 AM) Gary Bedore @GaryBedore 3m3 minutes ago Only way Carly can save face with that tweet is to say one of her campaign workers had her twitter access. Can't root against alma mater. There's no way Fiorina can win with a Tweet like that. None at all.
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2016 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 2, 2016 -> 12:06 AM) This is among the worst things I've ever seen from a politician not named Donald Trump. Carly Fiorina went went to Stanford. This is offensive to almost everything I care about and respect. I wonder if one of her aides wrote that. Totally unacceptable on so many counts. Nobody can be that dumb, right? To root against your alma mater in a bowl game?? I mean, cmon.
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White Sox acquire Brett Lawrie
QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 2, 2016 -> 04:03 AM) Just skimmed this thread. Fun thread. Boy was I wrong thinking stuff would heat up. Moves are taking a long time which is working in our favor. If Nightengale or whoever wrote it is correct in saying we are only offering 3 years, we are not going to sign Upton, Gordon or Cespedes. That's not being negative, that's a fact, right?? In what scenario would any of those guys go for three years?
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Melky - What Did You Expect?
Three years, 42 million. I guess he's not overpaid. 14 mill a year. That's what average players are getting and he's pretty average production-wise in LF.
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Cespedes Re-signs with the Mets
QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 2, 2016 -> 05:22 AM) I will say gordon signs for 4 years 80 mil and cespedes 5 years 120 mil. P.S. that be there contract with any teams. No way the Royals will give Gordon 20 million a year for any time frame. If it's true the Sox will go only 3 years then obviously they won't be signing anybody not named Parra.
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Melky - What Did You Expect?
QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 10:22 PM) I've read a lot of posts on here during the offseason speak about Melky Cabrera like he had an awful year and they expect a big rebound in '16. Or that we should find a way to get rid of him in the same sense we need to get rid of Laroche. I've kind of been wondering why so many people think his 2015 was so bad, and I'm curious what they expected. Perhaps that line of thought is fueled by the dichotomy of his 1st and 2nd half last year, but I don't think he finished much differently than I expected when we signed him. Perhaps a little worse, but nothing too significant. Stat: 2015/Career Average AVE: .273/.285 OBP: .314/.336 OPS: .709/.748 HR: 12/12 (Rate based career AB/HR with 629 ABs) RBIs: 77/75 (Rate based career AB/RBI with 629 ABs) Obviously this isn't close to his monster, yet suspension shortened 2012 numbers, but we clearly didn't expect to see those 2012 numbers. Are people expecting him to be something more than a 15 HR .280 hitter from a 1 time all star?? As much as this board talks about (obsesses about?) finances, he's grossly overpaid if all he can give is 15 homers and 75 RBIs. I guess 75 RBIs is the new 110. If that's the case I guess he's not a total flop. He's another guy who was blah. I'm not a big fan.
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The Winter/Spring Weather Complaint Thread
QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 11:21 PM) LOL Yeah, winter blows in general. Why i continue to put myself through hating winter every year I do not know. Most people finally break and move to San Diego or Arizona or Vegas. It's why Chicagoans are all over those places.
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2015 - 2016 Bowling Season
Went bowling for the first time in two years and rolled a 170 with marks all over the place and my ball having the movement it needs for high scores. Choked on some easy spares and missed some easy spares that I feel would come back to me quickly if I bowled more. This begs the question ... is bowling one of the easiest sports to perform well in? The 170 with pocket balls all over the place means if I bowled more, I would quickly average about 160 or better and roll my share of 200 plus games. Is bowling easy is my question??
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2015-2016 NBA Thread
So is Hoiberg a great coach or not? Haven't watched the Bulls that closely. Is he a genius? Or do Bulls fans have concern? Please fill me in on the verdict on Fred after this many games.
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The Republican Thread
QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 04:52 PM) Wait I thought cheating on your wife was acceptable by Greg? I better keep my comments on the guy I know cheating in the other thread lest this one turn into something else that could get me banned. I'll keep it in the other thread. I do think it's insane to act like everybody who likes Trump is an idiot. There are a lot of people out there who like Trump for various reasons. And not everybody is willing to just give Hillary eight years in the White House as some sort of lifetime achievement award. That's all.
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Alex Gordon Thread
Signing Gordon to a very lucrative four year deal just doesn't seem KC-like to me. It's not how they operate. That's not been their mo-jo. I can't see KC going more than 15 mill a year no matter the amount of years. And I think 15 mill a year average would truly be high for them. They actually don't need Gordon if Dyson has a great year. I'm hoping KC has a bad year anyway. Their starting pitching doesn't look robust. It's more Royals like to sign Parra or go with Dyson/Orlando and sign a starting pitcher for reasonable dollars.
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The Republican Thread
QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 08:41 AM) So you are using the Lewinsky scandle to define his entire run as president? Nothing about turning a $290 billion dollar budget deficit into a $127 billion surplus during his eight year run? Unemployment rates? Serbia? By the way, in every Gallop and Five Thirty Eight poll, he is ranked much higher than your "go-to" Jimmy Carter. And let me get this straight. You have been on a soapbox about Trump and his "brashness" and how he tells it like it is, and that you are sick of every other politician that doesn't believe in what they stand for, and are all crooks. Yet Bill Clinton accomplished more during his time as president that anyone in the last 40 years, yet had an affair in office, which was very brash and "un-presidential", and he is an absolute villain in your eyes? As far as your final paragraph: My Clinton example was brought up in response to people getting on Trump for his "sexism." I was trying to point out Bill got a free pass vs. Trump in that regard. I told you I like Clinton's speeches. I just feel that his wife, Hillary, is very very despicable if that's the right word. Or rude. Or elitist. I don't want her as President. Jimmy Carter IMO is one, almost perfect human being. Check my initial post. The CLinton sex stuff was brought up by me in response to the attacks on Trump for sexism. I feel I correctly pointed out Bill has committed an act that many people woulda been villified for forever. p.s. Has Hulk Hogan been forgiven yet? Other celebs who have "mis-stepped?"
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The Republican Thread
QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 05:57 AM) Maybe people remember Clinton more for being one of the best presidents to lead this country the last 40 years? Also, your incredibly odd Pee Wee comparison doesn't hold any water either, as he is currently filming a new Pee Wee movie directed by some small indie director named Judd Apatow. Thanks for the reasonable response. The Pee Wee reference did fall apart (a bit) cause he's finally been reaccepted into society so to speak. But check it out. For many many years he was held in contempt as I stated. I'm glad for Pee Wee that as of late he's been allowed to make a comeback, so yes I probably, certainly should have found a better example. But my heart was in the right place as Pee Wee was held in contempt by everybody for many, many, many years. As far as your first sentence. Really? Bill was THAT good? I'm serious about my assertation. The man had a 22 (I believe she was 22) year old intern come to his office for what some deem improper activity. In my opinion he's been let off the hook WAY too easy on this one whereas for some sick reason Lewinski was mocked. You have to admit that she's been treated pretty harshly by the media and society compared to Bill. And I"m not a Bill Clinton hater. I like his speeches and his sense of humor. I DO NOT like Hillary and I feel Trump is being portrayed unfairly by the media. As far as the troll thing ... believe it or not there ARE Trump supporters out there. People like me are SICK of politics and like his brashness. It's true. There are people out there who are fed up with b.s. being spouted by people like Hillary.
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The Republican Thread
QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 12:46 AM) the media gave Bill Clinton a pass? Lmao really? That "scandal" died long ago. Sadly it does not define Bill at all a$ he continue$ to speak everywhere and anywhere as a national hero. He's a national hero right now. There's no negative connotation to Bill Clinton's morals at all. The lasting memory of that incident? The mocking of Monica and Linda Tripp. Mocking Monica's dress with the stain. Think of the Clinton-Lewinski scandal and nobody's looking at Bill like a mature man hooking up with an intern. They mock Monica and her fluctuating weight, etc. You tell me Bill Clinton was not given a pass by the media on that one. Cmon. If this was a Republican the person would be treated like Pee Wee Herman was all those years after Pee Wee allegedly got caught in an X rated theatre whacking off. Pee Wee was shunned forever, not on any more talk shows. Ruined. Bill? He remains a hero. Forgive and forget is fine, but try and convince me if a Republican did that, that that person wouldn't have been ruined forever. Bill Clinton is a national hero, case closed on that, and he's about to move back into the White House gloriously.