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QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:28 PM) What makes you so sure? Do most players peak at 25? I just think he's another Beckham, that's all. People love him now cause they love the mystery of a new player. His stats reeked last year and with all those strikeouts he must be another uncoachable guy whiffing at that rate.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:59 PM) I'll try and help you with that. Lawrie hit .260 and Avi .257. Lawrie had 16HR/60RBI and Avi had 13/59. Lawrie 28 walks and Avi 36. Avi 7 steals and Lawrie 5. Maybe it is me, but their stats are very comparable. So I say again, if you were happy w Avi as an offensive player in 2015, Lawrie put up very similiar numbers. Both also struggled defensively. So maybe we have another Avi at 3B. I like Avi so I assume I will like Lawrie. It's ok to root for your team, but I laugh whenever we make moves in the winter people assume they are GOOD moves. Lawrie is what he is (cliche). He's not going to emerge as a star.

This is pretty much Lawrie's last chance. He's been a huge bust for a No. 1 pick and obviously the A's think he's no good if they wanted to dump him. Hopefully he'll be humble in this, his last real chance, to make it big. His stats, in fact, were lousy with the A's. We shall see. I am a little surprised a lot of you are happy with the trade. At least he's used to AL pitching, but I see him as a fairly lousy hitter.

How bout getting semien back for a pitcher?

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 06:57 AM) Micah and Beck. Is this true? What has happened to our organization? How can Jerry allow this? When are the Sox gonna win some trades?? This is ridiculous ... for Lawrie??

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 07:09 AM) Frazier would cost too much in prospects. Matsuda is unknown and wants 4 years. Freese probably gets close to 3/30. We probably give up very little to get Lawrie. I'd rather have Frazier even though NL players tend to really really suck in the AL. QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 07:11 AM) http://www.sfchronicle.com/athletics/artic...twitter-premium Supposedly deal is almost done...finalizing names in terms of minor leaguers. Ugh. Please let it be two lousy minor leaguers. Lawrie is NOT WORTH any of our halfway decent prospects. He's just not.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 06:57 AM) and ofcourse the negative nancies come in the thread and make you want to join the crowd in jumping off the bridge. Good lord. Tell me why you like Lawrie and would OK giving up good prospects for him. Just curious. IMO the ONLY thing he has going for him is his age.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 06:57 AM) and ofcourse the negative nancies come in the thread and make you want to join the crowd in jumping off the bridge. Good lord. I may be a Neg Nancy but I studied his stats, coupled with his still very-young age and status as a No. 1 draft pick before posting. It's reasonable after such a study to conclude he's the A's version of Avi - a guy probably worth giving up on. I mean, yeah, it's possible he could emerge (former first-round pick Beckham never did) but it's also possible he blows. Yeah if we only have to give up a couple non prospects, but I'm thinking the A's will go for blood and steal some "good" sox players for this bust (so far).

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 06:51 AM) Get ready to get fleeced again by the As. Yes by all means trade young pitchers, considering their value, for this mediocrity. Or maybe a Trayce. Avi-don't care why they'd want him. That's the value. Anybody get the feeling the A's see the Sox as an easy mark to steal players? I wouldn't deal with the A's. I get the feeling they feel they own Kenny in trades. ... Brett is still a decent prospect I guess, but I'd rather acquire the bust on the Pirates at 3B over this bust. If the A's are trading him, that means Beane has given up on him as a prospect. I'd pass.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 10:30 PM) Because they have this mistaken belief that they are no longer allowed to say Merry Christmas. I'm questioning where that's coming from and why it would be any more harmful than any other greeting. Have your read your HR handbooks? People are told to NOT say Merry Christmas. You are not supposed to do it. It's Happy Holidays. If Donald Trump wins, at least it's a victory over the PC police. Also what about all the comments from people who have said their kids are in Winter Plays not Christmas plays. You will NOT see mangers and the story of the nativity in any public school I've been around the last 10 years. WE CANNOT OFFEND ANYBODY nowadays. That's why it's cool Trump is going after Muslims. Somebody has to acknowledge all these DEATHS. Of course not all are bad. Of course we shouldn't be beating up people because they are different from us. BUT WE MUST PROTECT THE USA. Trump is right about that.

Well, the whipping boy is gone. I'm not a Flowers hater by any means. I hope he does well in the NL. I still say he and Soto were light years better than our current combo at catcher will be.

If teams want Anderson ... we know he's a legit prospect at least. If he's a legit ss, we can't afford to be trading him. Sox need a young shortstop ready to take over (in a year). We're going to be hurting at ss this year with Lexi gone.

It is the offseason ... when these guys' names sound good to teams and ticket buyers ... ON PAPER. Maybe we can sell LaRoche to an NL team. Just say the AL was a bad fit. Man, if we could get rid of him, that would be awesome.

Everybody thinks Zobrist is the glue guy who gives you a WS title. 20 million a year at his age is ridiculous. I could see the Mets giving him that much, though.

Say what you want about Trump. He could give a bleep about the PC police. I love that about him. Now he's saying all Muslims must be kept out of USA. If Trump had any experience at all and could contain that ego a bit, I'd vote for him over and over. I'm sick of the malaise in our country and all the mass murders!

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 06:05 AM) How do you figure? Upton & Frazier combined for 8 WAR last year, they'd be replacing guys who put up a -3 WAR. That's an 11 point swing right there (assuming production maintains). Doesn't include any improvement from Melky or LaRoche, who combined for -1.7 WAR, which is incredibly likely IMO. Also doesn't consider any improvement from any of our the young guys, in particular Rodon, who has plenty of room to improve over the 2.1 WAR he posted last year. With a couple significant upgrades at 3B & RF, this team could very easily be a legitimate playoff contender. Yes, but NL players who come to the Sox generally stink. These 2 NL players might hit .111 in April and May before they get going. By then in the Central?? Playing KC and Detroit and Cleveland all those times? We could be out of it by the time they get hot in the Cell in the summer.

Hate to be a fuddy duddy, but no. Team has to shore up its defense and bullpen and fundamentals to compete in the Central. I don't believe under Robin the team is capable of being strong fundamentally. And Hahn doesn't appear to be building around defense. Baserunning and baseball-type instinct plays are also sub-par. I do think we have a darn good starting rotation, but just too many holes even with those 2 additions. Frazier and Upton WOULD excite me as far as returning to getting some power back in the Cell. But the Sox right now have a major problem in building a team that can compete playing a majority of games in the Central. Frazier and Upton along with Abreu might get us back on track to a lift and pull title type team. I'm not saying it's impossible. I will say we've had BAD LUCK with NL players and they both might suck all season til they get adjusted.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 10:26 PM) Well that's because those people mistakenly think "Merry Christmas" is politically incorrect. But politically incorrect is a label tossed at phrases that get oversensitive people all worked up and offended, resulting in a demand to use a different phrase which those people prefer. In the case of Winter greetings, it's "Happy Holidays" that results in anger and demands to use "Merry Christmas". I find it hard to believe in this gawdforsaken conservative state I NEVER hear Merry Christmas (except at church) and always hear Happy Holidays and you guys who live in big cities claim I'm wrong. The PC police are out big-time over not offending anybody who does not celebrate Christmas. Festivus is a cooler name anyway. It does bum me out that PC has taken over. That's one reason I want Trump to win.

Is Oklahoma for real?

QUOTE (ron883 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 02:10 PM) It's crazy how much better this world would be without religion. Sheep gonna sheep Why would the world be better without religion? Give me some reasons. The world would be even worse than it is without religion IMO. It amazes me how religious people are fair game to be mocked when we accept your right to be atheist.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 08:06 PM) Sounds more like you think your religion is the only one that matters, which is pretty much the issue. No, the issue is everybody is afraid of offending the PC police on Islam. Nobody is afraid of offending Christians. It's really pretty funny. QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 08:14 PM) Get off your cross, Greg. Why is it OK to blast and mock Christians and virtually nobody else in America? You try ripping Islam or any other religion? It's cool with me. I find it funny. Ditto Catholics. Every other organization or religion that had any problems with the abuse of kids ... it's covered correctly. That there are sick morons everywhere. But Catholics ... bring out the joke book. Cool with me. It's funny. But don't you dare imply Islam could be the cause of some of these horrific murders! Tell me what I say isn't true. Nah nobody will do that, they'll just rip Greg or make some one liner about Greg.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 08:41 PM) He's not an idiot? So this has nothing to do with Islam? Seems to me we are pretty weak in being afraid of the PC police on this one.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 03:10 PM) It's crazy how much better this world would be without religion. Sheep gonna sheep Wrong. QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 04:16 PM) agree, 100%. Disagree 100 percent. Don't worry, though. Christianity as a religion is going away. Too many Americans are afraid of offending anybody regarding race or religion ... except Christians. Ripping Christians is cool. Right, Bill Maher? Hey, quit saying Merry Christmas, Christians. It's offensive, you know?? There is no God. That baby that was born was nobody special.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 02:15 AM) Obama just called ISIS thugs. #racist. I think Obama refers to them as ISIL. Also he's not racist because he refuses to say "radical Islam" ever. He won't blame the religion at all. What's his deal?

He's way too old to give him the $$ he desires. Let the Mets have him. Idiotic signing for an oldie. Two years maybe; five?? LOL