Everything posted by greg775
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White Privilege?
QUOTE (Cknolls @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 06:50 PM) A recent Dartmouth alum provides this summary of events on campus yesterday based on reports from one of her closest friends still on campus: My friend is texting me about a Black Lives Matter protest that happened at Dartmouth last night. Apparently it started as a standard march and chant across campus and devolved into black students screaming at individuals in the library and calling them out by name for not protesting. It’s finals period so the library is packed with people trying to study, and some of the protesters screamed at people they knew who were doing work and demanded to know why they weren’t protesting. One kid sang a song in the library (when the protest was still “peaceful”) and people clapped when he was done. Then a girl in the protest said “F*** you, white people. You can clap for us but you aren’t f***ing standing up here with us. F*** you.” Other protesters said that anyone not protesting is a racist and called one girl “rich white human filth.” Some people who were trying to study ran out of the library crying after protesters swarmed their tables and screamed in their faces. One kid joined the protest just because he was scared. They screamed at two girls on [one of the college teams] (both of whom I know and love) for being in the library–meanwhile BOTH girls had participated in the protest earlier and left to study. Another protester said “you are all murdering us in the streets f*** all of you f*** your white privilege and comfort.” Can you even believe this? And then we have this slightly more sanitized version from the Dartmouth’s account: The demonstrators then went from First-Floor Berry up through Fourth-Floor Berry [library], then to Novack and Collis. Some students who were at the library at the time said they felt uncomfortable with the disruption caused by the protest. Some of the demonstrators called out specific students who were studying for not standing up and joining the protest or not wearing black. One student said at one point he was concerned over the possibility of violence, while another said that he called Safety and Security because he was annoyed by the disruption. Diakanwa said that while he saw “a lot of passion and emotions from both sides,” he did not think the situation would ever escalate to violence. If it did, he said, the appropriate authorities would have been contacted to maintain and control the situation. A member of the Class of 2017 who requested anonymity for fear of being targeted said that he did not want to be near the protest, but walked through the crowd of demonstrators when they were on First-Floor Berry in order to check out books. He said that after bumping into a demonstrator, she called him a “racist, privileged a–hole,” and as he was leaving another student told him to “go to hell” because he was not wearing black. Sam Kater ’17 was in Novack at the time of the protest. Kater said that he saw the demonstrating students come down the stairs and enter the study space, chanting “If we can’t study, you can’t study.” This particular Black Lives Matter crowd has done us a service officially adopting the black shirt and accompanying black duds as its official uniform. Morons. Life on campus in OBAMA's America So which account is true? Very sad story of the two women who actually took part in the rally then left to study and they still take grief. I'll say this. Putting myself in their shoes, If I were a student in the library studying, it would pain me but I'd pick up and leave and go study somewhere else. But a lot of this stuff would start to piss me off. For instance, I would not want to have to take a required course in diversity just to submit to one of the demands of minorites. Sorry. I'm at college studying my ass off, working my ass off, having a social life when I can squeeze it in ... I don't want to have to take some course (for no credit I assume) on anything much less diversity when I am NOT a racist. and there's not a racist bone in my body. Now if it can count toward my major as an elective, OK. The other thing that would bother me and may ultimately lead to violence is this white privilege stuff. Keep saying that to white people, making us admit to white privilege, that will not end well. I mean how the hell do they know the people they are talking to admit their white privilege hasn't had a rough life??? That's prejudice in itself. I know one guy when I went to college whose mom left the family, his dad was a deadbeat, and he had jobs since he was 14 basically supporting himself in Wichita. How dare they talk to him about his privilege. And he turned himself into a success by hard hard work, not his family privilege. HE HAD NONE and happened to be white. Anyhow that's how I see it putting myself in the shoes of the white students in the library. If I'm wrong I'm wrong. p.s. would you admit to white privilege (if u are white) if these groups of protester types told you to? I would be upset by that. That's what some of their demands are, admitting to this privilege. f*** that. Not a bad story here on a guy offended by white privilege talk but recognizing the argument is worth debating. http://occupywallstreet.net/story/explaini...ke-white-person
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It would be silly for the White Sox to rebuild
QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 05:40 PM) I see no reason we can't be competitive again by 2017 with the right moves made, it's not like we were as bad as the Phillies this year. A full rebuild means punting on the next 4-5 seasons with no guarantee we'll be any better off, no thanks. The threat of the Royals is way overstated, they're losing a lot this offseason, their starting pitching still sucks, and Holland is hurt all of next year. For some reason all teams in the Central have flaws, but ours seem to cost us from even flnishing .500. I don't get it much. Right now our weaknesses are defense, team speed, middle relief and setup relief, power hitting, on base percentage. Strenghts: Starting pitching, maybe the closer. Chances are a year of familiarity for Melky and LaRoche and Duke won't change these weaknesses.
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The Republican Thread
glad to see Trump rip the Missouri president and chancellor for being weak and succumbing to a flawed protest.
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Is tipping on the way out?
QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 03:18 AM) I went to Subway a few months ago and got stuck behind 4 landscaper guys. I'm kind of weird in this way, but I'm not a "line guy." I usually drive by and peer in and see if there's more than one person in a Subway or Goodcents line. If there's 2 people I don't go in. It's just fast food, albeit damn delicious, and I'll think of another option. As far more on tipping, when I was in charge of my golf course concession stand as a high school junior and senior (stand was between green No. 9 and tee No. 10) i put out a tip jar. I'll say this, I made a lot of tips especially on Saturday and Sundays when the course was packed from 7 a.m. til dark, and that money went toward college expenses. Yes as I said before I was privileged in that my dad paid for my college room, board and books. I tried to at least make my own dough for beer, car maintenance, fuel, etc. Normally whatever somebody ordered, most people would put a quarter or two in my tip bowl, hardly ever a real paper bill, but some change. I would leave about a buck in the jar at all times so as to encourage people to put some coins in it. I'd dump my cash behind the counter where nobody could see it. Anyhow, a few assholes would comment on me having a tip jar and insult me. I thought that was special, jeezus. Somebody would say, "Begging for money?" I always responded if some f*** criticized me. I would tell them, "Actually it's money going toward my college expenses and you'd be surprised how it adds up." NORMALLY they would say politely, "I was just kidding and they'd put in a coin or two." To keep my sanity, under my counter I had a notepad and I would count the percentage of people who b****ed about cost of a hotdog, coffee, pop, candy. And the people who b****ed that our cheap owner didn't have any ice available for us to put in the soft drinks. I will say the pop machine blasted out COLD pop, but I can see why somebody would want ice. I faced the brunt of it, the people b****ing. It helped me keep my sanity by having my notepad and checklist about the percentage of people who b****ed. I agree with the poster who said everybody should have a job as a kid dealing with people. It really teaches you to be polite. All the assholes who said, "GIMME a hot dog" or "GIMME a beer" acting as if I was a peon ... it taught me to be nice to those who wait on me. Invaluable lesson. AND WE GOT TO GOLF FOR FREE at any time believe it or not. That was AWESOME. That made it tolerable.
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White Privilege?
It's like we are on different planets. KC radio is all over Missouri's letting an activist get away with this. I wouldn't be surprised if the millionaire on the hunger strike was getting fed on the sly. Nobody was watching. I admit I was fooled at first. I thought, "Wow the MU football team is boycotting so a concerned kid won't die." Now it turns out he's a troublemaker and the student president is making up s***. When are Missouri students going to reclaim their university and show some pride and fight back against these troublemakers. Our talk radio is all about this and saying Missouri got played by professional protestor types. Like I said the kid on the hunger strike is an activist and is RICH.
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Official High School Football Thread!!!
QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:27 PM) If Rice minimizes their mistakes on offense, does not out coach themselves and takes advantage of their talent, they should win and have a date at home with Loyola in the semis. I am not sure if you are noticing but a couple of upsets and you could see Marist and Rice in 8A finals. Decent chance you see Marist and Loyola. Wow. I did not notice. Is the Rice game on BrotherRiceTV again?
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White Privilege?
QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 05:56 PM) Greg this is the dumbest thing I've ever read. Please read every word of this Chicago Tribune article. Mizzou administrators should be ashamed. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion...110-column.html
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NCAA basketball 2015-16 thread
Anybody going to Kentucky/Duke, Kansas/Michigan State on Tuesday? I may be coming in for the games if anybody wants to meet me in person for Sox chat in the U. Center. Hey has anybody used Uber for transportation to and from games? I know cabs sometimes don't want to go to the U. Center.
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NCAA basketball 2015-16 thread
QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 8, 2015 -> 06:00 AM) long story short, he has absolutely sucked at his job, Greg. The end. What is wrong with his approach? Is he building a program?
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White Privilege?
QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 02:23 PM) Since it came out this am that Butler's family is unfathomably rich, do you think he'll write a handwritten letter acknowledging his privilege? Well, heard some horrifying facts about Butler today. One of our talk shows devoted the whole show to how Missouri got played for fools. This Butler guy is not only rich, but he's a renowned activist. He goes around trying to stir up s*** and he succeeded at Mizzou. The football team thought a student was dying on a hunger strike. It turned out to be activist Butler, 26 year old spoiled rich kid Butler. WOW. MU's president and chancellor quit over some punk stirring up trouble because that's what he does. All anybody had to do was google Butler's name and MU would still have a president/chancellor. WOW.
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The Democrat Thread
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 10:44 PM) I'm not thrilled with the democratic candidates but I still subscribe to a least harm voting policy. The democratic years have really killed our economy. Learned today health care at our company costs rise 35 f***ing percent for individuals and 50 percent for dependents. This country is screwed. If you are lucky enough to get a job that pays anything halfway noteable, good luck keeping a nickle because of health care costs. We're in sorry shape economically folks. No jobs available that pay anything, candidates talking about making people work til they are 72, give me a break!!!
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Is tipping on the way out?
QUOTE (dasox24 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 06:49 AM) I never knew how awful people were about tipping until I became friends with a waitress at a restaurant I go to a lot. I couldn't believe what she would tell me about her tips. Maybe it's because I grew up upper middle class with my dad paying for my college and me always having enough money to keep my wallet full (knock on wood and thanks mom and dad) but I've never understood why many people are "cheap." If you are cheap, tell us about it. How cheap are you? Has your significant other called you on it ever? I've always tipped excessively and been so polite to people who wait on the public. It stems from when I worked as a kid at a concession stand and cooked hot dogs and sold beer, pop, candy, chips and heard all the public's unwarranted, unfounded complaints. Made so mad I told myself I'd never be a rude customer. One time, one asshole who came into my concession stand at the golf course every Sunday and b****ed about the prices and how my hot dogs weren't hot enough (at f***ing 7 a.m. when I just opened the store) left his wallet. I put the wallet under my counter. We didn't have a phone up there in my stand on the 9th hole and I couldn't leave it. So about 3 hours later this asshole comes driving up with the golf course owner and says, "I left my wallet up here and I bet you found it." I said, "Yes I did, here it is." The bastard counted his money and said, "It's all here," and left without even thanking me much less giving me a tip. The public can be ASSHOLES. Be kind to your server. Tip tip tip!!! Life is too short to be cheap. Spend your money, don't hoard your money.
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Official High School Football Thread!!!
Forgive my love of Bro Rice, but can we beat Palatine and move on? Or will Rice be pummeled?
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Mark Buehrle to retire?
I'd be all for trading 2-3 of our lefties and bringing Mark back. Or like I said make Danks a lefty reliever. Teams with four lefty starters DO NOT win pennants.
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White Privilege?
QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 10:00 PM) And yet you'll never find a bigger Mizzou booster than Kim English. Today he's posting stuff about how unless you were a famous athlete at MU you had big time problems. That's an indictment of his school. On a good note, at least that professor Click is going to be stripped of her duties in the journalism school. She isn't a prof in the J School but has some sort of role there.
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The Democrat Thread
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 09:30 PM) You have to balance every negative thing you say about somebody with one positive thing, it is the rules of journalism. You should be fair at least. The man is a brilliant surgeon and by all accounts an outstanding person. Again, the perception by the media is he is a buffoon. QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 09:32 PM) In matters other than neurosurgery, he seems like Gomer Pyle. Not to me.
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White Privilege?
QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 09:49 PM) The Greek system at most schools, especially big state schools, is usually segregated anyway. There's a Greek system, and a Black Greek system. It's pretty arcane, but it has always been that way. I've always been in favor of fraternities and sororities. But it is pretty scary to think we have to have separate Greek systems depending on the color of your skin. Wow. QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 09:51 PM) Peaceful protest with no violence. It's possible! Yeah, it seems only the older adults were acting up at Missouri in that video where the two mean ladies were screaming at the Missouri student media.
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White Privilege?
QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 07:26 PM) http://mashable.com/2015/11/09/mizzou-camp...k/#qBd3NFOXHGqF She worked at the paper to me. I think it's important that many of the students who are even talking about these experiences will in general terms probably love their experience, school and people they met. The racism at missouri was probably not very different from many other campuses (see Yale where similar stuff is happening), but these smaller incidents add up, or another group will come in asking why this is still happening. If you were to ask me, I would say that Columbia is a very progressive, warm and welcoming place. But these incidents made me look back and think of some awful incidents of black friends or classmates that i could obviously largely forget about, but were probably very affecting of them. But going to Juana's article, the idea that you could be proud and love something that doesn't always quite accept you sounds like the American experience for many. Nice post. I'll tell you one thing. It makes me really sad a person has to go through this kind of stuff in college of all places. Some people are really raised to be pigs/assholes. It does make Mizzou seem to be a true hellhole. Kim English's comments are scary bad as well. Very sad as I mistakenly though this kind of s*** was very rare. I know growing up on the southside there were a ton of racists. When I went to Brother Rice there were a few black athletes and I know the white guys respected them. Never heard any slurs. In college I can honestly say I never heard a racial slur in four years in my fraternity and never heard of any problems on campus. Of course no blacks were in my frat and none went through rush. Literally none. MU must really have some pricks running around that campus. If its just a handful of people they are really giving their college and city a very bad name.
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The Democrat Thread
I wish the Journos seeking all the mud on Carson would at least balance the scales and write about his work saving lives as a fricking brain surgeon. The man is brilliant and he's being depicted as Gomer Pyle.
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My/Your Off Season Plan
QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 09:05 PM) I'm just part of a Chiefs forum that's no holds barred. Common phrases like that. my mistake that you were offended. Thicken your skin. It's an online message board. Please don't tell us what to do or how to feel. Some of us are offended by words. I myself really don't like to hear or read the word r__e. To me it's a very violent sickening word.
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White Privilege?
So, Missouri's football team was refusing to practice or play this week's game unless the president resigned or was fired. The president of the school did not react very forcibly to a couple issues of racism on campus (some moron put a swastika in human dung on the wall of a dorm with minorities in it) and five dumbasses yelled the n word at the student body president as they drove by in a truck. So the football team and a group of student protesters won today when the president resigned as did the chancellor. Both are gone in one fell swoop. Football team is back on the field, but the protesters didn't have a good day. A communications prof called for "muscle" to get a student reporter to move off public property, which was caught on tape. The student reporters were trying to take photos of the protesters who were on public property. Free speech and all that.The greek system leader was also making a fool of herself telling the MU student media to turn off their cameras and cease and desist doing their jobs (this at a renowned Journalism school). Also, the protesters when they got what they wanted issued some NEW demands which to me seemed a bit tacky and out of line today. I mean the moment the school officials meet their demands, new demands?? Kind of bullyish IMO. My question to you is ... aren't the protesters at Mizzou on a slippery slope. The school has 7 percent blacks and 93 percent whites I believe I read. At what point does the 93 percent tire of their school being portrayed as unbelievably racist when frankly there haven't been that many incidents. At what point do the protesters calm down a bit and work with the school officials on racism at Mizzou rather than appear to be a bit bully-ish. Or do you think what they're doing is fine? Finally what is your overall opinion of what's going on at Mizzou? Will more sports teams boycott practices and games at other schools? p.s.: I will say this. Most college students are proud of the university they decide to attend. I thought it kind of sad that the Missourian student newspaper ran an article with 15 pictures of individual students all commenting on "how racism has affected me at Missouri." I mean is the University of Missouri a fricking hellhole racist pit of scum?? How can they attract any future students when the student body is completely turning on its own school, saying basically it's a miserable place to be for any minority??? Tough times at Mizzu. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/flor...109-column.html
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The Democrat Thread
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 04:16 AM) Among the numerous portraits of himself in his home, this one of Carson with Jesus has to take the cake: This one featuring a giant portrait of himself in his massive home proudly displayed over a stone carving of a line from "poverbs" [sic] about humility is a strong challenger, though: Who cares about the pic? Yes he has an ego. So do all politicos.
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The Republican Thread
LOL I was right. No coverage of the Trump appearance on SNL except I saw two reviews that said the show was boring/awful. I'm very surprised they didn't doctor the overnight rating numbers. Entertainment Weekly said the Trump show had the highest ratings since 2012. His ratings were 47 percent higher than the Hillary/Miley Cyrus episode. I bet Hillary's camp will soon agree to host the show. Kudos to one outlet for reporting the ratings kick/ass whooping by Trump for NBC.
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MLBTR Top 50 Free Agents
Kendrick, Freese and Cabrera. Kendrick doesn't make a lot of sense since Micah, frankly, on paper can put up those type of offensive numbers. Freese has really pedestrian stats except for on base percentage and Cabrera is nothing special either. Baseball is full of mediocre hitters making a ton of money.
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Sale switching Sox?
I don't really care if there are fan rumors. Sox aren't trading Sale. Boston will have a shot at him when he's a free agent. If Sale stays healthy obviously Sox won't be able to keep him when time comes. I wish the Sox would do the tinkering necessary to have a dominant starting rotation and middle relief and bullpen. We have too many lefty starters. We don't have 3 reliable bullpen guys which is what you need nowadays. I mean REALLY RELIABLE.