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Here's why you don't trade Sale and just let him walk when it's time for free agency since Sox will never try to sign him then ... No contender (big money organization) is going to part with current big leaguers in a trade for Sale. We will get 3-5 minor league stars for him. Problem is all those minor leaguers could be busts. Think of all the minor league sensations who have flopped. We could get 2-3 first rounders and 2-3 second rounders in a five for one for Sale and all five could be busts. You keep Sale until it's time for the Red Sox to sign him to a seven year 350 million dollar deal. That's where this will be heading for guys like Sale in a couple years. 50 mill a year will be the going rate. It's only escalating. Keep him til he leaves. Minor leaguers blow.

This proves by the way Hahn blew it last year a month before the trade deadline. Shark obviously has value and we could have gotten some talent for him, despite the fact I think he blows. Obviously there are teams out there that think Shark is worth five years and TOP dollar.

Baseball 2015. Shark horrid with sox and gets rich five year deal. Hilarious. All that money for a bad bad pitcher

Trades for CarGo and DJ LeMahieu White Sox get: CarGo and LeMahieu Rockies get: Frankie Montas, Adam LaRoche, Carlos Sanchez and Avi Garcia OK post, but why in the hell would a Rockies GM want LaRoche, Sanchez and/or Avi? Those guys are all bottom feeder of rosters so to speak.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 08:31 PM) Thats where I file every move. Someday I'm gonna like one, I promise. But you are right, man I've hated the acquisitions since we became a perennial sub .500 team. (You post was funny, so I had to respond; OK I'm not gonna comment on this move in this thread anymore; I made my point clear; I dislike). On to the next one, Mr. Hahn, Impress me!

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 09:23 PM) Greg, Navarro had an .894 OPS vs LHP last season. Should be a decent platoon. It's definitely not worse. I'll stop, lest I become a pest in this thread. Just remember, Greg was against the move. File it under "he didn't like it."

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 09:14 PM) Avila/Navarro is a better combo and it's not even close. There is no point in having a combo of Flowers and Soto. They both hit right handed and can't hit RHP. We'll see, I guess. I just don't understand why you guys are OK with this move. I'd keep Flowers around and if you had to sign one of Avila/Navarro to replace Soto, fine. This move screams of the kind of move a lousy team makes, to me. Flowers may have stunk, but he didn't deserve to get the non-tender over either of those 2 guys IMO.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 09:05 PM) this is the wave of the future, cheap, no hitting catchers whose defense may be questionable That's a pretty interesting sentence. Cheap catchers who can't hit or play defense. Mama, teach your kids to be catchers I guess. Make a ton of money for literally no production?

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 09:02 PM) Do righty/lefty splits mean anything to you? Do you even understand what it means to platoon players? Navarro has always raked against lefties (for a catcher) and Avila has always raked against righties (again for a catcher). What more do you want. Or better yet, who do you want? Go take a look at the list of available catchers and come up with a name please. I want a reason to buy mlb.com again. My team has replaced Flowers/Soto with Avila/Navarro. To me, a reasonable consumer, that is a very very bad tradeoff. Yuck. Tell me the truth people. Would you rather have Flowers/Soto or Soto/Flowers than these two newcomers?

I'm numb to caring about the shooters. All I want to know is if it was an act of terrorism and what group they are affiliated with. The coverage of the killers no longer interests me in these horrible cases of mass murder. I hope those 2 people enjoyed the lives they were given. Let's see they were born and raised to ultimately go into a place and kill more than a dozen innocent people. Nice lives. Bastards.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 04:45 PM) I didn't even realize he as a FA. Nice pick up. Catcher stabilized for next season. Have you looked at his stats? He played in 54 games and hit as badly as Avila did. They both did draw some walks though, improving the catcher spot in ability to take a walk I guess.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) I personally think this is a perfectly suitable platoon at catcher. I will not miss Flowers one bit. I can honestly say I'd rather have Flowers/Soto than this new platoon. How could anybody think Navarro/Avila is an upgrade? Ugh. At least nobody's going to criticize these two guys as they platoon. Flowers was a true whipping boy here. Hate to be so negative but Sox have asked for it the last 3 years. Lots of negative news.

Good article. I liked reading that I'm not so unusual in your description of the fanbase. I am very very negative after the 3 losing seasons and you pointed out a lot of Sox fans are in similar moods. I'm really down on the team.

Sign him. Cures our 2B situation.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 06:55 AM) I agree with everything except maybe the Garcia thing, not sold on that yet. I love that we are doing something different and the off-season has barely begun. I want proof that we are not just acquiring guys (like Baltimore used to do) and will be out of the race in June. We need to make some moves to acquire real ballplayers. OK we dumped Flowers. Now we need a GOOD catcher and one who can hit .270 with 24 homers and throw out a runner or two.

It's good to get rid of lousy players like Tyler, but ... Is there the slightest chance he might have emerged in his third full season of full playing time? I would guess no other team will make him a regular, so he's probably done. He seemed like a guy with some ability. He hit some mammoth bombs, but mostly he was a strikeout machine. I wonder if it's lack of ability or if he was uncoachable. What I'm trying to say is it seemed like there was a "chance" he could be a .255, 20 HR guy.

Very sad. Bury your head in the sand if you think America is safe. You are in danger at work, at church, at the movies, at sporting events, walking down the street, sitting in your living room or on the porch. Better learn how to duck, as bullets might be coming at any time. Very very sad.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:09 PM) 35 year old Zobrist to a 4 year $60+mm deal? Nah I'm good. Pass. Way too much money, but it's the going rate for the teams who spend.

Beckham sure stunk as a White Sox. But he seemed like a likeable guy at least.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 10:08 PM) Yes, Hillary is bad choice. Why do you not like Kasich? Haven't studied him at all yet. My bad, I guess.

I'm not blaming Obama, but it sure seems to me we've had sooooooo many of these mass shootings during his 8 years. Gunmen kill many today in California in a building that helps the disabled??? Pretty soon we're going to be in a militaristic state everywhere we go. Nobody's gonna be allowed in any building, any sports arena, cause frankly at any time somebody might come in and blast away. It's just plain sickening. It's Obama's watch. Not saying it's his fault but wow, all the murders, all the destruction. Just think how many people are plotting mass murders as I write this. It has to be thousands of plots being planned right now, which is very very scary. Peace on earth good will toward men.

Trump might as well win the presidency. It's our last-ditch hope for an economic recovery even though he is way too cocky for some old guy. I mean Hilly isn't going to fix the economy. Trump would maybe fix it and at the very least give us a lotta laughs.

David Price 30 mill a year for seven years? Sox better adopt a new bargain basement strategy like the Royals did. Unless we're being lied to ... Sox can't afford that kind of jack, the new going price (no pun intended) for free agents. Raise those hot dog prices now, Red Sox. 20 bucks a hot dog sounds about right; 30 bucks for a beer should do it. Maybe a 17 dollar sale on nachos and 200 dollars to park. Might as well raise parking to a couple hundred per game.

How good is Loyola? Is this one of the best teams in Illinois prep history? They destroyed Cinderella Marist. Any chance Br. Rice could have given them a game?

QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 30, 2015 -> 08:25 PM) It was three months and it was 3 years ago. Time flies. It seems like yesterday I got the swift kick in the pants to offseason oblivion.